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Message started by kidsavage on 07/19/11 at 19:37:48

Title: Savage exhaust removal?
Post by kidsavage on 07/19/11 at 19:37:48

i just got a 2002 suzuki savage which im turning into a bobber...im wanting to take the muffler completely off to give it an extra umph....if i do this does it effect engine performance? long term problems? overheating? please help if you can

Title: Re: Savage exhaust removal?
Post by verslagen1 on 07/19/11 at 21:38:22

too loud,
no back pressure, too hard to tune
no back pressure, no low end torque

Title: Re: Savage exhaust removal?
Post by Gyrobob on 07/20/11 at 02:56:42

63616C7B697E696F6D080 wrote:

Verslagen1 knows of what he speaks.

Yes, the stock exhaust weighs a ton. The header alone weighs 10 pounds -- it is triple wall tubing.

He says too loud,.. very true,... damages your hearing over time and pisses off the public -- a bad thing for all of us

If you do nothing to the rest of the bike, it will run poorly, to say the least.

If you really do want to make your exhaust fit your bobber persona, please use a muffler of some sort. The public will be happy, and you will have a fighting chance of the bike running as well as a stocker,.. assuming you want to adopt carb tuning as a new hobby.

Title: Re: Savage exhaust removal?
Post by SoE on 07/20/11 at 05:24:27

I just went through the same thing. I was looking at really short "mufflers" with almost no baffle or packing, but I went with a smaller Harley muffler. Glad I did. It's smaller and lighter than the stock, and it sounds nicer without ripping holes in the atmosphere & pissing off my neighbors with the new baby.
Find a smaller muffler and add a cone air filter and you will probably like the sound just fine. And you may not have to mess with the carb at all.

Title: Re: Savage exhaust removal?
Post by kidsavage on 07/20/11 at 10:59:34

thanks for the tips...now what about if i kept my save exhaust but grinded out the baffle? still the stock exhaust but with a meaner sound

Title: Re: Savage exhaust removal?
Post by EJID on 07/20/11 at 11:39:07

FWIW, grab a HD takeoff...they're a dime a dozen and make a significant improvement in both appearance and sound (entirely subjective, I know)

If you insist on hanging onto the stock anchor for an exhaust, there are a few users on here that have had good luck drilling out the back plate in a couple different fashions to get acceptable improvements in sound, but they still weigh a ton.

Title: Re: Savage exhaust removal?
Post by SoE on 07/20/11 at 18:16:45

+1 on that.

I had a some holes drilled in my stock muffler by the previous owner. The HD muffler still sounds way better.

Title: Re: Savage exhaust removal?
Post by kidsavage on 07/20/11 at 19:24:15

so what is the exhaust name and where can i find it?

Title: Re: Savage exhaust removal?
Post by Markusublime on 07/20/11 at 21:14:48

You can buy a Harley muffler on eBay.here's a great post showing the different mufflers.

http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1298689417

Title: Re: Savage exhaust removal?
Post by Edgar on 07/21/11 at 04:23:22

3A262C490 wrote:

Find a smaller muffler and add a cone air filter and you will probably like the sound just fine. And you may not have to mess with the carb at all.

Does a k&n cone style filter change the sound on a motorcycle like an air intake system in a car?

Title: Re: Savage exhaust removal?
Post by splash07 on 07/21/11 at 09:41:28

6A4B484E5D2F0 wrote:

[quote author=3A262C490 link=1311129468/0#3 date=1311164667]
Find a smaller muffler and add a cone air filter and you will probably like the sound just fine. And you may not have to mess with the carb at all.

Does a k&n cone style filter change the sound on a motorcycle like an air intake system in a car?[/quote]

The exhaust will not really change in sound but you will be able to hear the carb sucking air.

Title: Re: Savage exhaust removal?
Post by splash07 on 07/21/11 at 09:42:33

746770716E6365676C33020 wrote:

too loud,
no back pressure, too hard to tune
no back pressure, no low end torque

+1

ran my bike for about 1000 miles with little to no baffle and I never could get her to run right.

Title: Re: Savage exhaust removal?
Post by SoE on 07/21/11 at 12:17:42

0D2C2F293A480 wrote:

Does a k&n cone style filter change the sound on a motorcycle like an air intake system in a car?

Yep, it does. It gives a slightly "throatier" sound (to quote someone else on the forum). I like it.

Title: Re: Savage exhaust removal?
Post by kidsavage on 07/21/11 at 17:41:02

ok so i am thinkin of gettin a harley dyna muffler....however i just got my carb rebuilt due to sputtering and stalling...if i get this new muffler on would i have to retune the barb? jets?

Title: Re: Savage exhaust removal?
Post by Gyrobob on 07/21/11 at 18:16:33

776B61040 wrote:

[quote author=0D2C2F293A480 link=1311129468/0#9 date=1311247402]
Does a k&n cone style filter change the sound on a motorcycle like an air intake system in a car?

Yep, it does. It gives a slightly "throatier" sound (to quote someone else on the forum). I like it.[/quote]

I went to school with a guy who ran just screens on his carbs mainly because he loved the intake sound, although he tried to make us believe he did it for more performance -- freer flowing than a paper filter. The sucking/inhaling noise was loud and throaty. Very machine-like. They looked sorta like this:

http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh253/Gyrobob_theOriginal/Motorcycle/Miscellaneous/carbscreen01-1.jpg

Whether or not the screens were less restrictive is not known. At first glance they'd seem less restrictive.

We kidded him about the lousy filtration and he said things like, "There ain't no friggin dust in Palo Alto!!, and these things will strain out the friggin bugs and gravel!"

(he didn't say "friggin")
::)