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Title: I want more speed but not more noise Post by Jahoo on 07/19/11 at 10:39:20 I want to get to that 80mph mark on this bike. Right now shes pretty much topping at 65 and that just wont do. But i work late nights so i don't want an exhaust that is gonna wake up the neighbors when i get home at 4am. Any suggestions on this? |
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Title: Re: I want more speed but not more noise Post by Serowbot on 07/19/11 at 10:44:29 Find what's wrong... a stock Savage should hit 80mph easily... Check your air filter... could have a clogged jet or stuck slide... Have your valves been adjusted?... Changing mufflers won't help, until you get what's wrong straightened out... ;)... |
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Title: Re: I want more speed but not more noise Post by MrBrownTX on 07/19/11 at 10:51:04 Yeah 80 shouldn't be a challenge. I havent had my savage for too long but I have easily hit 80 a couple of times. 80 feels alot diferent on this than it does my old ninja. |
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Title: Re: I want more speed but not more noise Post by verslagen1 on 07/19/11 at 11:00:32 80 with a stock bike shouldn't be a problem. year? miles? mod's? (performance, not appearance) |
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Title: Re: I want more speed but not more noise Post by kimchris1 on 07/19/11 at 11:13:18 I have an 09 and no problem hitting 80 if I want to.. :) kim |
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Title: Re: I want more speed but not more noise Post by Sunchasers on 07/19/11 at 11:34:29 Guess I'm a skeerdy-cat.... haven't had mine over 65... and that was the day I bought it from the PO and drove it home on a state highway. ;D |
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Title: Re: I want more speed but not more noise Post by dasch on 07/19/11 at 11:38:42 65?? 115km/h? That is nothing for Savage. |
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Title: Re: I want more speed but not more noise Post by txsizzler on 07/19/11 at 13:18:33 Heck, the other day on my way to work on I-37 I found myself doing about 87 mph without really thinking about it! :o Of course, I slowed right back down ;) . Typically, I cruise around 70-75mph on my 2003 Savage. You should EASILY be able to sail past 65, 70, 75, and even 80mph. Generally, 85-95mph is the top end on this scoot! Ian |
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Title: Re: I want more speed but not more noise Post by weracerc on 07/19/11 at 13:44:39 even my fat 410# a$$ hit 80 yesterday on the highway...and no not downhill or with a 100mph tail wind...just straight up flat road....1996, 10.6K miles, jardine slash cut, stock airbox, carb has been re-jetted 52.5 and 152, air fuel screw 1.5turns cc, 87 octane.......nothing fancy - sounds like the bike in question has breathing difficulties of some sort, cant process the fuel to get the power. |
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Title: Re: I want more speed but not more noise Post by dasch on 07/19/11 at 14:19:36 It should do 65 mph with carb sawed off... ;) |
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Title: Re: I want more speed but not more noise Post by SoE on 07/19/11 at 14:23:07 Back when I was young and foolish I got my first Savage ('87) up to 95+ without any trouble. I was lighter, but not much - close to 190lbs. This '01 hits 65 pretty quick. Sounds like something's up. |
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Title: Re: I want more speed but not more noise Post by Boofer on 07/19/11 at 16:00:54 Jahoo, we have a lot of evidence that your Savage should be faster. You need to check the ins and outs. Air and gas have to get in. Check the air filter as mentioned. Gas has to get in. Check hose, tank vent, filter if equipped, and screen inside the tank, petcock, throttle fully open. For the outs, there is nothing that holds back an engine like an obstruction in the muffler or exhaust. These are fairly simple to check, so do them first. You may have a full fledged racer on your hands after a little looking around. What did I miss? |
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Title: Re: I want more speed but not more noise Post by drums1 on 07/19/11 at 20:18:16 Well, my old '87, after all it's been thru the last 3 years, is lucky to hit 70, and then it feels like I'm gonna vibrate right off the dam thing. I've had excessive vibration ever since the clutch/new (used) head fiasco. Plus, back in '87, it was only a 4 speed transmission. And now that I've gone and bashed in the bottom of the motor, she really vibes a lot. Not to mention I'm afraid my JB Weld job will vibrate right off, and leave me stranded some where in parts unknown. 80 or 90 is totally out of the question for me. If I was on a group Savage ride, I'd be bringin' up the rear. >:( |
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Title: Re: I want more speed but not more noise Post by Jahoo on 07/19/11 at 22:36:43 95 stock im just getting her back together after sitting for a few years. i am trying to find a new air filter for her right now. she runs perfectly fine until i hit 65 then there is a hesitation and i can barely get her to go another mile faster. |
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Title: Re: I want more speed but not more noise Post by txsizzler on 07/19/11 at 22:50:52 79525B5C5C330 wrote:
You might try to put the bike in PRIME on the petcock and see if you can go above 65. Could be a fuel delivery problem, and there is issues with factory petcocks not providing the correct vacuum at high speeds. A lot of folks on here are going with a Raptor 660 petcock solution, that is supremely easy to install and you won't have that problem anymore if this is the case. |
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Title: Re: I want more speed but not more noise Post by verslagen1 on 07/19/11 at 23:04:37 1D363F3838570 wrote:
what do you know about the maintenance history? cam chain? head work? |
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Title: Re: I want more speed but not more noise Post by Jahoo on 07/20/11 at 06:28:32 i dont know any besides what i have done |
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Title: Re: I want more speed but not more noise Post by Jahoo on 07/20/11 at 06:40:00 how do i check what my airfuel screw is set too? i wanna check that first. |
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Title: Re: I want more speed but not more noise Post by MrBrownTX on 07/20/11 at 08:02:12 you close it all the way, then turn it back out. |
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Title: Re: I want more speed but not more noise Post by ero4444 on 07/20/11 at 14:16:55 second vote - switch it to prime. Might be nothing else wrong. |
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Title: Re: I want more speed but not more noise Post by verslagen1 on 07/20/11 at 23:18:23 Can't go faster than 55 or so usually indicates that the cam has been mis-timed. since you don't what was done to the bike and why it's been sitting, if all else failed I'd check into it. |
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Title: Re: I want more speed but not more noise Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/21/11 at 05:35:35 Yep, first prove fuel is going in, If theres any tendency for it to not drop RPM when you let off the gas, then look at a sticky slide, then, check valves to see if theyre opening up, maybe adjusted on the wrong TDC, then, check cam timing,. |
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Title: Re: I want more speed but not more noise Post by Jahoo on 07/27/11 at 14:16:01 So when i try to go full throttle in any gear it allso sputters. |
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Title: Re: I want more speed but not more noise Post by groupus on 07/28/11 at 10:04:59 I never thought to put mine in prime, but that is an excellent idea. if theres any type of air leak, it would not be putting up enough vacuum to provide adequate fuel at high rpm. It also sounds like a clogged main jet. take the carb bowl off, pull the main jet out and look at it; clean/replace as necessary. if you need more detailed instruction, check the tech section. might as well give the whole carb a hose down with carb cleaner while youre at it. in all actuality, you might want to go up a size or 2 for the main jet if it is all stock still. get a 150, can be picked up or ordered through your local cycle shop for about $3. definitely try in prime. definitely clean the carb. definitely check that main. the air adjust screw won't do much for higher rpm but would be worth fooling with. good luck! :D |
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Title: Re: I want more speed but not more noise Post by Jahoo on 07/28/11 at 22:41:37 how do you put the raptor in prime? Is it straight up? Im switching to a cone filter will a 150 be adequate or do you think i should go up to a 152? im not going to do any mods until i get my little problem figured out, then im looking at dyna pipes and a cone style filter. |
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Title: Re: I want more speed but not more noise Post by verslagen1 on 07/28/11 at 23:26:12 0D262F2828470 wrote:
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Title: Re: I want more speed but not more noise Post by Jahoo on 07/29/11 at 08:26:06 Ok then putting bike in prime is not the answer. I'm having carbs cleaned and valves adjusted sunday so I'll see from there what the bikes doing. Thanks guys. |
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Title: Re: I want more speed but not more noise Post by groupus on 07/30/11 at 10:29:09 yeah sorry, imma try putting mine in prime to see if i can't get more out of it on the highway. a good carb cleaning should help, or at least give you a better idea where the issue might be. |
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Title: Re: I want more speed but not more noise Post by Serowbot on 07/30/11 at 11:00:07 So, you have a raptor petcock... is your vacuum tap blocked off on the right side of the carb?...... ...it needs to be capped... ;)... |
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Title: Re: I want more speed but not more noise Post by ralfyguy on 07/30/11 at 12:44:53 If setting the stock fuel thingy to PRIME has the same effect as having a Raptor set to ON, why buy a Raptor? |
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Title: Re: I want more speed but not more noise Post by Serowbot on 07/30/11 at 13:24:53 23303D3728362428510 wrote:
Switching to prime will fix one potential problem (fuel starvation),... but you will have no reserve... ...the problem of a torn diaphragm, causing flooding of the crankcase, airbox, and engine, is not corrected by switching to prime... this is supposedly what the vacuum operated petcock prevents, but when it fails, it causes it... And,... failure rate for the vacuum petcock is greater than the failure rate of the float... Ironic, huh?.. Truth is... a vacuum petcock is not a "safety" feature at all.. it is a convenience feature for those that can't remember to turn a knob... It is in no way safer than a manual petcock, it is less safe... ... at least if your float sticks and begins flooding you can turn off the petcock... What do you turn off, when your vacuum petcock starts flooding the engine?... Nothing... It just floods and floods... until you get some pliers and disconnect the hose, then find something to plug the hose... Raptor solves all these problems... and makes the tank easy to pull as well... |
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Title: Re: I want more speed but not more noise Post by Boofer on 07/30/11 at 18:26:37 And it's cheap!! |
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Title: Re: I want more speed but not more noise Post by Serowbot on 07/30/11 at 18:45:09 0825252C2F384A0 wrote:
That was so much more concise than what I said... ;D... |
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