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Message started by Gyrobob on 07/19/11 at 07:24:17

Title: 12v power outlet location
Post by Gyrobob on 07/19/11 at 07:24:17

Where would you locate a 12v jack (plug?) like this:
http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh253/Gyrobob_theOriginal/Motorcycle/Miscellaneous/Powerplug12v01.jpg

Forget about the penny. ::)

I want to use an electric vest in the winter. They are heavenly.

Another advantage: it's easier to hook up a voltmeter for testing or a trickle charger, should the need arise. (if wired to the battery)

Would you wire it to a switched 12v source so it was depowered when the bike was shut off? If so, where in the harness would you splice it in?

If you'd hook it up to an always-on 12v source, would you run separate wires to the battery, or would you splice it in the harness somewhere that was always on?

Would you want this thing installed loose on a cable, or on a panel? I suppose it would be reasonable to drill another hole in the ignition switch panel on a RYCA CS-1, for example.

Thanks for any ideas,..

Title: Re: 12v power outlet location
Post by Routy on 07/19/11 at 07:45:46

I use a different plug,.....the same one that seems to be standard on all the late model battery maintainers,.....beside the point,......
I mounted mine on the right side 3-6 inches from the positive batt terminal, hot all the time so the battery charges, and I plug my GPS into the same plug when on the road.
The negative could be brought across, but I connected it to the frame near the positive batt terminal.
http://p1.bikepics.com/2011/07/19/bikepics-2242657-800.jpg

Title: Re: 12v power outlet location
Post by Gyrobob on 07/19/11 at 08:30:06

4E415B405C5A494B434D5A280 wrote:

Hmmm. That's another consideration. I am getting real used to using a GPS as I wander around. Maybe I need two of these outlets.

I chose the jack/plug shown because it is what matches the Gerbing vest I use for December/January timeframes.

Title: Re: 12v power outlet location
Post by verslagen1 on 07/19/11 at 08:31:33

+1 routy

I only need a trickle charge connection
but have a cigarette lighter socket that has the same connector so I can add that in at some point.

last time I needed a jump, the tow truck did not have an adapter for this connector, so the cigarette lighter socket would have been an additional method of connection.

Title: Re: 12v power outlet location
Post by SoE on 07/19/11 at 09:02:47

As small as that is I'd probably run loose cable under the seat and let it poke out between the front of the seat and the tank. You could probably zip it off with a little slack and tuck it out of sight when not used.
Keeping it in front means you can reach it easily while sitting on the bike and wearing the jacket, right?
Seems like that would work for devices plugged into it held inside one of your pockets too.

Title: Re: 12v power outlet location
Post by spacepirates on 07/19/11 at 10:17:27

554943260 wrote:

I would have said a similar place, but at the other end. You could tuck loose cable between the two seats. That would also give it a little protection from the weather. You could tuck it down between them when not in use and fairly easily pull it out when you did want it. Minimal wiring because everything sits under the seat as is...

Title: Re: 12v power outlet location
Post by SoE on 07/19/11 at 10:38:00

I thought about that but I wondered how twisted up you might get doing the "reach around". Yeah, I just said that.

Title: Re: 12v power outlet location
Post by thumperclone on 07/19/11 at 10:53:24

have a cig lighter outlet on the frame cross member
fused to the battery
use to jump start cig male to cig male
also have home made adaptor for the aligator clips from the battery charger
made a wp insert out of a rubber cork with a bottle cap glued to it

Title: Re: 12v power outlet location
Post by spacepirates on 07/19/11 at 11:50:51

I just remembered someone had a full sized cig lighter mounted on the tool box cover facing backwards. I bet you could do the same thing, just tuck all the guts in the toolbox and have that plug mounted flush on the cover.

Title: Re: 12v power outlet location
Post by txsizzler on 07/19/11 at 13:14:39

+1 Routy

Curious, is there any specific 12v outlet that people tend to recommend over the others, or does it really matter?

Ian

Title: Re: 12v power outlet location
Post by Boofer on 07/19/11 at 16:05:01

I thought we had a thread about the Savage system that concluded it wouldn't run heated clothes. Am I wrong? :-?

Title: Re: 12v power outlet location
Post by verslagen1 on 07/19/11 at 16:31:30

654848414255270 wrote:

I thought we had a thread about the Savage system that concluded it wouldn't run heated clothes. Am I wrong? :-?

with stock lighting, you got about 60watts to play with.
after that, you're sucking the battery dry.

Title: Re: 12v power outlet location
Post by Gyrobob on 07/19/11 at 16:45:04

766572736C6167656E31000 wrote:

[quote author=654848414255270 link=1311085457/0#10 date=1311116701]I thought we had a thread about the Savage system that concluded it wouldn't run heated clothes. Am I wrong? :-?

with stock lighting, you got about 60watts to play with.
after that, you're sucking the battery dry.[/quote]

One of the upgrades in the works is an LED-based lighting system, with an HID headlight. This will cut the wattage required for lighting in half (approx) and make more light as well. Hopefully, this will free up enough watts for the Gerbing jacket, which uses about 80 watts on high.

Title: Re: 12v power outlet location
Post by Joe F on 07/19/11 at 17:59:22

Gerbing makes a cable with battery attachments on one end and a socket with a rubber cap on the other end. I leave mine under the seat of my S40. There is enough extra that I can pull it out and connect to a cable running from my gloves to the back of my jacket. Heated gloves won't drain the battery and they let me comfortably ride down to 30 degrees or less.

Title: Re: 12v power outlet location
Post by Routy on 07/19/11 at 22:04:10

Just for info,.....the 12v plug I posted a pic above also comes in a flush mount receptical too. I mounted this one in my ATV a year or 2 ago. Only thing is, I don't know where to get them, except a place that sells and installs solar systems,....or so I was told.
http://p1.bikepics.com/2011/07/19/bikepics-2242980-800.jpg

Title: Re: 12v power outlet location
Post by txsizzler on 07/19/11 at 22:25:23

6E616C74207E65626279687F0D0 wrote:

Thanks, Joe! Where did you get your Gerbing if you don't mind me asking?

Title: Re: 12v power outlet location
Post by Gyrobob on 07/20/11 at 02:48:51

555952485B5B4D4453210 wrote:

[quote author=6E616C74207E65626279687F0D0 link=1311085457/0#13 date=1311123562]Gerbing makes a cable with battery attachments on one end and a socket with a rubber cap on the other end. I leave mine under the seat of my S40. There is enough extra that I can pull it out and connect to a cable running from my gloves to the back of my jacket. Heated gloves won't drain the battery and they let me comfortably ride down to 30 degrees or less.

Thanks, Joe! Where did you get your Gerbing if you don't mind me asking?[/quote]

I prefer heated hand grips to heated gloves. They use less wattage, and they are less cumbersome -- no wires, etc. You can also wear lighter gloves on days that would normally require something really bulky.

I got my Gerbing jacket on ebay. While it is a quality garment, I wish it had more even heating. It has some places that stay nice and warm (almost too warm) and other areas with no heating at all. I called Gerbing about this and they said that was normal. :(

Overall, though, having a heated jacket liner is a wonderful thing when it is in the 20s or 30s.

Title: Re: 12v power outlet location
Post by Joe F on 07/21/11 at 17:12:30

Quote:

Thanks, Joe! Where did you get your Gerbing if you don't mind me asking?

The BMW folks are big into heated clothing. I got my battery-to-socket cable and gloves at a BMW shop. The gloves come with the cable that goes in the coat. Heated grips are nice but the heated gloves can move from bike to bike :-) I also like the heaters on the back of my hand instead of having sweaty palms.

Title: Re: 12v power outlet location
Post by Gyrobob on 07/21/11 at 18:19:02

3E313C24702E35323229382F5D0 wrote:

Quote:

Thanks, Joe! Where did you get your Gerbing if you don't mind me asking?

Valid points. Everthang in laff izza tray doff.

With heated grips, all I have to do is get on and ride, switching on the grips if needed. With heated gloves I have to use THOSE gloves, and, if I want to go to another bike, it has to have a 12v outlet to match. I just always use heated grips on anything I own for very long.

I like these: http://www.dual-star.com/index2/Rider/heated_grip_kit1.htm They are low-cost, reliable, and fairly easy to install. I've used them on my last three big bikes, and have probably spent (for all three kits), less than what one set of Gerbing heated gloves would cost.

:) (token smiley to reassure everyone that all is pleasant)

Title: Re: 12v power outlet location
Post by verslagen1 on 07/27/11 at 20:42:51

found it...
http://www.bikerhiway.com/images/large/powerlet/ptb-001_LRG.jpg

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Powerlet-Luggage-Electrix-Connector-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem3cb4fe169cQQitemZ260734588572QQptZMotorcyclesQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories

BTW: these guys have a lot of sweet sh!t