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/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl General Category >> Rubber Side Down! >> air filter, carb, and exhaust - tell us the tune! /cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1311002744 Message started by CalisOsin on 07/18/11 at 08:25:44 |
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Title: air filter, carb, and exhaust - tell us the tune! Post by CalisOsin on 07/18/11 at 08:25:44 Maybe this already exists but I was thinking it would be awesome to start a running list and then maybe move it to the technical section of how people's carbs and exhaust and all that are set up. I can't do it properly because I can't remember my jet size (doh!) but I think this might help a lot of people get a good starting point for themselves. Answer these questions. Is your bike well tuned? Year: Mileage: Air Filter: Petcock: Main Jet: Pilot Jet: White Spacer Mod: # Turns on air/fuel mixture screw: Exhaust: Elevation: Other Carb Mods: Backfire: Gas Mileage: Smooth accel: Spark plug color: (thanks guys we're building a good list!) Any thing else relevant? |
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Title: Re: air filter, carb, and exhaust Post by arteacher on 07/18/11 at 08:54:43 how about "other carb mods"? |
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Title: Re: air filter, carb, and exhaust Post by spacepirates on 07/18/11 at 09:54:55 How about a field to determine how well the bike is jetted? how/when it backfires, fuel economy, color of spark plug, if it sputters/hesitates/bogs down. The stock getting changed between some years of the bike, so that might also be relevant. So, with that note, here is mine with the added note that it isn't just right yet: Air Filter: cheap-o cone off ebay Petcock: raptor Main Jet: 152.5 (i think) Pilot Jet: 52.5 White Spacer Mod: none (yet) # Turns on air/fuel mixture screw: 2.5 (i think) Exhaust: jardine Elevation: ~1000ft Other Carb Mods: PVC street corner pipe intake Backfiring: all the friggin time >:( (especially downshifting, but also when shifting up, and a poof on shutdown) gas mileage: 41 to 46 mpg pulls: smooth to 3/4, no power from 3/4 to WOT perfected: no. not even ballpark. :-/ |
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Title: Re: air filter, carb, and exhaust - tell us the tu Post by arteacher on 07/18/11 at 10:40:15 Here's mine: K&N slab filter in stock box. Raask Exhaust with baffle in. 150 main jet. 55 pilot jet with holes. Dial-a-Jet installed set to one stop on the lean side of middle. (will set it to middle when it gets colder). 2/3 white spacer mod. Mixture screw 2 turns out. 49 mpg mixed city and highway. Occasional pops while down shifting, none at shut off. No performance issues- it goes like a scalded cat. Top speed 87 indicated mph with a 250 lb rider, windshield, and wide bags. |
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Title: Re: air filter, carb, and exhaust - tell us the tu Post by ralfyguy on 07/18/11 at 19:25:37 Here's mine: '06 S40, 15,700 miles Stock muffler with baffle removed Extended plunger @ 12,000 miles 150 main, 52.5 pilot with bleed holes, 2/3 spacer Mixture screw 2 1/4 turns out Open airbox with stock filter Smooth acceleration from idle to WOT Occasional poof on shutdown, frequent pops on upshift Mainly jake brake rumble on decel with bangs when dropping to a little over 3,000 rpm Light tan plug and exhaust color Starts without throttle and choke down to about 60 degrees when cold 41-55 mpg depending on throttle hand :D Oil: Rotella T6 5W-40 Full Synthetic Oil usage about a 1/4 pt for 1,000 miles in summer heat, less in winter Riding style: Heavy throttle hand, fast, but no "stunts" like wheelies and such Top speed indicated 95mph which is about 93.5 on GPS device Driver weight 200lbs, with occasional 105lbs wife on back, which only seems to drop gas mileage slightly Front tire stock IRC Rear tire Dunlop K555, 4,000 miles maximum life |
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Title: Re: air filter, carb, and exhaust - tell us the tu Post by BuckRYCA on 07/19/11 at 09:46:09 1996 Savage converted to Ryca CS-1 17,600 miles K&N pod air filter and K&N crankcase breather filter EMGO 17" Reverse Cone Megaphone muffler with crumb cup on baffle exit 152.5 main jet 52.5 pilot jet air/fuel mixture screw 2 turns out (sea level) white spacer mod status unknown minor backfiring on high rpm backoff and a poof at shutdown 50-55 mpg clean fueling throughout (good throttle response) |
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Title: Re: air filter, carb, and exhaust - tell us the tu Post by drums1 on 07/19/11 at 20:31:28 And mine: '87 Savage, 20,000 miles. Air Filter: OE HD muffler (torpedo) with baffle knocked out. Petcock: OE, on prime, vacuum plugged. Jets: OE White spacer: OE Mixture screw: 2 turns out. 54.6 mpg Some gurgling on decel. "poof" on shutdown. Lack of power top to bottom, due to used head, and running over the big rock. Don't know why my mileage is as good as it is, but I'd gladly trade a few mpg for a return of power. ( I'm thinking it's only a matter of time, and I'll be looking for a new motor, or a new bike. ) |
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Title: Re: air filter, carb, and exhaust - tell us the tu Post by verslagen1 on 07/19/11 at 21:15:26 Is your bike well tuned? no Year: 88 Mileage:bottom half 13k, top half 44k Air Filter:stock Petcock:stock Main Jet:152.5 Pilot Jet:stock White Spacer Mod:stock # Turns on air/fuel mixture screw:2 Exhaust: supertrapp Elevation:700 Other Carb Mods:none Backfire:no grumble pops are not backfire Gas Mileage:some Smooth accel:you bet Spark plug color:well it was white when I put it in. |
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Title: Re: air filter, carb, and exhaust - tell us the tu Post by Bubba on 07/20/11 at 07:05:37 Is your bike well tuned? I guess so Year: 2006 Mileage:12,000 and change Air Filter:K&N drop in Petcock:Raptor Main Jet:152.5 w/ bleed holes Pilot Jet:150 White Spacer Mod:2/3?...#4 nylon washer from ACE # Turns on air/fuel mixture screw: depends but usually around 2 1/4 Exhaust: DynaPower (don't make anymore) Elevation:5280ft Other Carb Mods:Allen head screws (ya just gotta) Backfire:sure...sometimes if I try Gas Mileage:50-60 Smooth accel:yep Spark plug color:haven't checked in awhile but my guess would be on the black carbon side of rich |
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Title: Re: air filter, carb, and exhaust - tell us the tu Post by sjaskow on 07/20/11 at 09:47:55 Well tuned? I like it. :) The mileage is the average. It ranges from 52 (mostly highway) to 58 (mostly surface streets). Year: 06 Mileage: 14700 Air Filter: Stock Petcock: Stock Main Jet: Stock Pilot Jet: Stock White Spacer Mod: None # Turns on air/fuel mixture screw: Undrilled/Stock Exhaust: Stock (golden brown by the block, brown just after the head shield) Elevation: 500 ft above sea Other Carb Mods: None Backfire: Pops on deceleration, a poof on shutdown Gas Mileage: 55 Smooth accel: Yes Spark plug color: Don't know, never had it out Tires: F: Dunlop D404 (100/90-19) R: Dunlop D404 (140/90-15) |
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Title: Re: air filter, carb, and exhaust - tell us the tu Post by serenity3743 on 07/20/11 at 10:23:05 What we are forgetting in this talk about "well-tuned" is that tuning is a "dynamic quality" as described by Robert Pirzig in Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance. Something is constantly changing, and even when we get the "static quality" "perfect(?)" there are many things happening to change the so-called perfection. There is no once-and-done in physics, or in life. |
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Title: Re: air filter, carb, and exhaust - tell us the tu Post by CalisOsin on 07/20/11 at 11:49:56 2D3B2C3B30372A276D696A6D5E0 wrote:
Very true, that would be why I started it off saying that it would be a good starting off point for other to use as an example. After reading it though, this might also serve as a memory for people (like myself after I find out) of what stats they have on their bike exactly. If I don't write it somewhere, I'll never remember my jets, and # of turns. |
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Title: Re: air filter, carb, and exhaust - tell us the tu Post by 2whlthrpy on 07/20/11 at 19:51:41 Mine... 07 3,700 miles stock air filter main 150 pilot 55 no bleed holes 2/3 white spacer raptor mix screw out 1.5 stock muffler sea level Just finished rejetting and it seems to have smooth accel all the way thru. Soon to replace with dyna muffler and kanN box filter. Probably need to retune but we will see. Very quick with my 160 lbs. |
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Title: Re: air filter, carb, and exhaust - tell us the tu Post by Arnold on 07/21/11 at 11:08:29 1996 4500 miles Main 155 Pilot 55 with bleed holes White Spacer Raptor Screamin Eagle Cone filter Stock Tires Backfires sometimes on decel and poof on shut off |
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Title: Re: air filter, carb, and exhaust - tell us the tu Post by EJID on 07/21/11 at 12:02:42 Here goes... Is your bike well tuned? Moderately - not at 100% quite yet, but very happy with it ;D Year: 2005 Mileage: just over 7,000 Air Filter: Aftermarket Cone Petcock: Stock Main Jet: 147.5 Pilot Jet: 55 w/bleed holes White Spacer Mod: Not yet (next time I take off the tank) # Turns on air/fuel mixture screw: 2 to 2 1/4 Exhaust: 36" Fishtail (minor baffling, but mostly straight through) Elevation: 4500' Other Carb Mods: SS Allen Bolts Backfire: Similar to a Jake Brake, otherwise minor & usually no poof on shutdown Gas Mileage: 37-40 but 99% in town and I like to hear that pipe 8-) Smooth accel: YES Spark plug color: Haven't had it out :-? Oil: Rotella T6 5W-40 Full Synthetic Tires: F Shinko 712 100/90-19 R Shinko 712 140/90-15 |
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Title: Re: air filter, carb, and exhaust - tell us the tu Post by serenity3743 on 07/22/11 at 05:34:03 4B6964617B477B6166080 wrote:
Okay, I'll jump in Year: 2002 (2nd engine) Mileage: 31,000 Air Filter: K&N stock replacement Petcock: stock Main Jet: 152.5 Pilot Jet: 52.5 with bleed holes White Spacer Mod: filed down to 2/3 # Turns on air/fuel mixture screw: approximately 1 3/4 Exhaust: free-flowing (baffle-less) Dyna Elevation: approximately 1,000 Other Carb Mods: n/a Backfire: Minimal on shutdown and coasting Gas Mileage: average 52-54 Smooth accel: check Spark plug color: Usually white, but not checked recently I like the way it's running right now. |
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Title: Re: air filter, carb, and exhaust - tell us the tu Post by Digger on 08/15/11 at 20:39:21 Year: 2001 Mileage: 11,900 miles Air Filter: Original - Never cleaned(!) Petcock: Raptor Main Jet: Original Pilot Jet: Original White Spacer Mod: Not done # Turns on air/fuel mixture screw: 1 3/4 Exhaust: Original Elevation: 6500 feet Other Carb Mods: None Backfire: Can get little shift pops if the engine is still warming up and I'm not using the choke. Get a fart on shutdown about 80% of the time. Gas Mileage: 56.5 mpg - 98 % urban riding Smooth accel: Yes, runs great! Spark plug color: I only check it about every 4500 miles or so...and the color must be normal, or I'd have taken note of it! |
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Title: Re: air filter, carb, and exhaust - tell us the tu Post by Sunchasers on 08/16/11 at 09:07:30 I'm happy with it! Year: 1987 Mileage: 8,200 miles (300+ miles since mods) Air Filter: OE paper type Petcock: Raptor Main Jet: Original Pilot Jet: Original White Spacer Mod: 1/2 + (two stainless washers) # Turns on air/fuel mixture screw: about 2 1/2 Exhaust: Original Elevation: 4982 feet Other Carb Mods: None (use Seafoam every other tank) Backfire: None (med to hard decel pops.... a rare poof on shutdown) Gas Mileage: 40mpg (100 % short urban riding) Smooth accel: Yes Spark plug color: Unknown (New - haven't checked since mods) |
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Title: Re: air filter, carb, and exhaust - tell us the tu Post by DrunkenDwarf on 08/16/11 at 10:22:19 Is your bike well tuned? unknown Year: 2007 Mileage: 4200 Air Filter: stock Petcock: stock on prime, vacuum port plugged (raptor waiting to install) Main Jet: 155 Pilot Jet: 55 with bleed holes White Spacer Mod: about half (1.5mm / 0.06") # Turns on air/fuel mixture screw: 2 Exhaust: Dyna Elevation: 0-500 feet Other Carb Mods: replaced screws with stainless steel allen heads Backfire: hard engine braking, occasional throttle close, and shutdown Gas Mileage: 50mpg Smooth accel: Yes Spark plug color: Unknown Suspected minor intake leak, too. -D. Dwarf |
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