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Message started by Gyrobob on 07/16/11 at 05:10:20

Title: Disable all safety switches
Post by Gyrobob on 07/16/11 at 05:10:20

How would one go about bypassing (disabling) all the nanny-state safety items?

Clutch switch, sidestand switch, neutral switch. Are there any others?

What I am thinking of is to have the bike (RYCA CS-1) act electrically like a bike of the 60s. My Norton Atlas and Ducati Monza and Yamaha YM-1 and Honda CB-350 dint have no stinking ~~badges~~ safety crap on them.

I might consider just using a different (simpler) wiring harness altogether as described in other threads here, but for now I just want to get this thing roadworthy.

Title: Re: Disable all safety switches
Post by arteacher on 07/16/11 at 05:23:19

Personally I like to make mods reversible, so I would short 'em all out with modified tap connectors. To modify just cut out the bit in the connector that the tap wire butts against so both wires will run right through the connector. To put it back to original remove the tap and seal the cuts in the insulation with liquid electrical tape. Easy peasy.

Title: Re: Disable all safety switches
Post by Gyrobob on 07/16/11 at 06:00:35

2D26262F232C2D3736420 wrote:

Sounds reasonable. So I'd just install jumpers, so to speak, at all the switches so they act like they would if I were in neutral, sidestand up, clutch in,.. as if I were getting ready to start the thing.

Title: Re: Disable all safety switches
Post by arteacher on 07/16/11 at 06:33:21

It would be cleaner if you followed the wires back till the taps weren't visible.

Title: Re: Disable all safety switches
Post by mpnoffi on 07/16/11 at 06:42:51

Have a look at page 13 of Rpnsht's Ryca build thread. He posted pics and talked us through how he removed these items as well as his decomp solendoid. I found it helpful. link... http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1304297812/180

Title: Re: Disable all safety switches
Post by Boofer on 07/16/11 at 08:38:53

I wouldn't disable the sidestand switch. :)

Title: Re: Disable all safety switches
Post by Boule’tard on 07/16/11 at 12:46:09

Just short 'em and the bike will think the clutch is always in and the sidestand is always up.

I'm not sure if it's the same on the Savage, but on the DR650 they use opposite-sex plugs on each wire that plugs into the harness, so you can just remove the clutch switch and plug the wires into each other. No fuss, no muss.

Title: Re: Disable all safety switches
Post by Gyrobob on 07/16/11 at 14:25:32

5A574D545D4C594A5C380 wrote:

Sex plugs, eh? This forum gets more and more interesting,.....

Title: Re: Disable all safety switches
Post by WD on 07/17/11 at 11:36:53

Savage isn't that fancy. Miniature speaker clips. Just cut the wires and twist them together with a small wire nut. Who cares if they ever work again? Even when I lived in MS and had to get inspected, those weren't a checked item. Not sure about the rest of the state, but the coast used to inspect bikes. Horn and lights? You pass.

My sidestand switch lasted a couple months at most. Just another useless bit of government interference, designed to fail, to sell more parts, to line more pockets. >:(

Title: Re: Disable all safety switches
Post by dasch on 07/17/11 at 13:00:59

It actually saved me once on another bike, that sidestand switch. I still disabled it on savage.

Title: Re: Disable all safety switches
Post by Serowbot on 07/17/11 at 13:15:03

In the past, I've used the starter motor to help get a stalled bike out of a mud pit...
... can't do that with a clutch cut-out...

Not that I'm going to get myself stuck in a mud pit again... :-?...

Title: Re: Disable all safety switches
Post by mpnoffi on 07/17/11 at 19:41:58

As mentioned above, RpNSht's post gives good advice on how to remove the clutch switch and wiring and the side stand switch and wiring. I still don't see anything on this site about deleting the decomp system and all the stuff that goes along with it. Anyone know what to change in your harness? Is it just as simple as unplugging and you're done? Or can you also delete the little boxes that deal with the decomp system? Oh yeah...and the neutral switch as well. I'm trying to make the stock harness as bar bones simple as possible. I'll probably re wire this winter after I've learned a bit more about how this thing works.