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Title: New Guy-New question Post by AZSGT on 07/05/11 at 12:54:16 Hello all. I a m new to Savages and new to this forum. This is a great resource for noobs!!! I only had my bike for like 2 weeks, and got cut off coming to a stop sign and got pushed into some gravel and went down. Didn't hurt me or the bike much. Broke the foot peg bracket, which I replaced. While I waited for my bracket I didn't ride for like 2 weeks. Now it is fixed and the bike seems to not be running the same. I can't tell if it is just me and my nerves or if something is wrong with the bike. What do I need to check after laying it down at 10 MPH? Starts, runs, shifts, everything fine. Just doesn't seem right. Anyone else experience this post-crash? |
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Title: Re: New Guy-New question Post by serenity3743 on 07/05/11 at 13:12:23 Welcome aboard! A little more info is needed. Which side did the bike fall on? What doesn't seem exactly right? The sound of it - if so which side? The ride - wobble or shake or something else? |
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Title: Re: New Guy-New question Post by AZSGT on 07/05/11 at 13:37:35 It fell on left side. As i said it starts and drives and shifts without issues. It just seems to be running different. and maybe a little unstable. As far as the way it sounds. Exhaust wise. It's so hard cause I think it really just could be me, and my nerves cause of laying it down. |
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Title: Re: New Guy-New question Post by verslagen1 on 07/05/11 at 14:13:51 4E555C485B0F0 wrote:
These are clues, but you need to give us more. Any little feeling, it may not be our usual discription for the symtom but better than nothing. "unstable" do you mean it wobbles? Hard to track a straight line? Exhaust sounds muted? farts more? less? |
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Title: Re: New Guy-New question Post by AZSGT on 07/05/11 at 14:22:25 LOL Sorry guys, I am trying to figure out how to describe it. It seems different in that it seems to rev higher, faster. acceleration doesn't seem different just seems to reach high RPM's a little faster. But I get to the end of the gear quick. It is back firing less when I let off the throttle and more when I just ease the throttle back some. Is it just running fat or what? And when I turn the handlebar all the way left as far as it will go, it revs the engine really high. There is no visual damage anywhere, I have gone over the bike 1000 times. I just don't wanna take it the 60 mile ride to work and have it crap on me or worse. |
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Title: Re: New Guy-New question Post by BurnPgh on 07/05/11 at 14:26:25 check your cables. That high rev with the bars to the left is your throttle caught on something. What was the weather like when you stopped riding? Whats it like now? Is the carb jetting stock or have you/someone else messed with it? |
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Title: Re: New Guy-New question Post by AZSGT on 07/05/11 at 14:29:03 I checked the cables, couldn't see anything stuck but I will re-check. It was hot as hell that day and hot as hell now. (Arizona) Carbs are not stock. Were re-jetted by the guy I bought it from but I did not have this issue before. |
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Title: Re: New Guy-New question Post by BurnPgh on 07/05/11 at 14:39:04 Im bowing out. Id geussed that stock jetting being lean...if you quit riding on a cold(ish - 70*) day and came back to it when it was 90* out you'd most likely notice an improvement/change. Might want to check your jetting anyway...previous owner might not have had any idea what he was doing but if conditions were extremely similar...I dont know. Other than that... tighten up all the hose clamps on the intake side. Maybe jarred it just enough with an already loose clamp to get an intake leak. Try running it in PRI instead of ON and see if that changes anything. You might be getting very advanced warning of a petcock issue. |
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Title: Re: New Guy-New question Post by AZSGT on 07/05/11 at 21:43:11 I just noticed that the coupling connecting my engine and my exhaust was missing a bolt. So my exhaust was not completely seated in the engine outlet. I replaced the bolt and tightened everything down. Would this cause the symptoms it is having? Weird idle, Weird shift points. Not backfiring when I let off the throttle, instead it backfires slowly and quietly when coasting in gear. It is obvious something happened when I laid it down that is affecting the performance. |
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Title: Re: New Guy-New question Post by verslagen1 on 07/05/11 at 21:55:34 504B425645110 wrote:
There may not be anything stuck, but you may have to reposition the cables so that you can turn lock to lock w/o the idle reving up. Same with the clutch. |
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Title: Re: New Guy-New question Post by verslagen1 on 07/05/11 at 21:58:50 08131A0E1D490 wrote:
Having a exhaust leak like that may cause it to run lean. |
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Title: Re: New Guy-New question Post by AZSGT on 07/05/11 at 22:02:34 Thanks V. Unfortunately we got a wicked dust storm here in PHX right after i finished fixing the header bolt so I have not had a chance to run it and see what happens. |
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Title: Re: New Guy-New question Post by AZSGT on 07/06/11 at 08:25:03 So I just took it for a ride. It does seem better but still not quite right. The exhaust sounds different still. Lots of backfiring when I let off throttle completely (which it did before) but it also makes intermittent pops while coasting in gear throttle off. Also it seems to lose RPM's faster. If I let off the throttle, it used to continue popping and I could hear the exhaust as I approached a stop sign etc. Now as soon as I let off the throttle, exhaust is almost silent, with the exception of the small pops i described earlier. |
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Title: Re: New Guy-New question Post by Serowbot on 07/06/11 at 08:41:13 That's from replacing the manifold bolt... PS... don't bother worrying about popping right now... It's monsoon season,... popping comes with the season... It's a rich pop,... won't hurt anything... |
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Title: Re: New Guy-New question Post by verslagen1 on 07/06/11 at 08:57:41 sounds like it's lean, could be that as you tipped it over, something in the bowl got sucked up into the jet. remove and clean. decel pops are ok. worry if they're KERPOWs, someone might shoot back ;D |
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Title: Re: New Guy-New question Post by AZSGT on 07/06/11 at 09:56:42 lol thanks guys. I will be sure to watch my kerplows. |
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Title: Re: New Guy-New question Post by AZSGT on 07/06/11 at 09:56:50 lol thanks guys. I will be sure to watch my kerplows. |
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Title: Re: New Guy-New question Post by AZSGT on 07/07/11 at 17:15:04 So I think I have it figured out. My idle adjust screw ( the one next to throttle body, not air mixture) was backed all the way out. I was having to use the choke out when starting, which I never did before, as it is NOT cold here. Ever. So I adjusted it correctly and now it idles fine and doesn't hesitate or pop when decelerating. Is this because when it was backed off, when I close the throttle, the body closes completely, causing a really slow idle when slowing in gear. Cause it felt as though the bike was wanting to die. I drove it today and it seems fine. |
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Title: Re: New Guy-New question Post by Boofer on 07/07/11 at 17:31:27 I always have to use half choke to crank and idle smoothly. Below 40 degrees it takes full choke to crank but idles smoothly. That has been my "normal" for about 7500 miles. I think some of the new riders sometimes think their bikes have to be like everyone elses. And I do understand those who want to tinker and some want more performance. As long as it runs and you enjoy it it's all good. Of course engine longevity and safety issues are important. We all need to be tuned in to those, but even then we use different fixes according to our ability and finances. ;) |
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Title: Re: New Guy-New question Post by AZSGT on 07/07/11 at 17:36:27 Ya but because of where I live, I NEVER have to use the choke. Then after laying it down I do have to use it just to stay lit, and it's running like crap. I am assuming (and hoping) that the idle was the reason. Just want someone with actual knowledge to validate my hopes!! ;D |
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Title: Re: New Guy-New question Post by verslagen1 on 07/07/11 at 18:15:06 You need someone with eyeballs on it to give that kind of comfermation but makes sense, with the idle screw turned all the way out, it weren't doing nothing. yer cable was too tight, tipping it over and pulling it back up, straightened out the cable. |
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