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Message started by EJID on 07/05/11 at 07:29:51

Title: Help w/used Fwd Controls
Post by EJID on 07/05/11 at 07:29:51

I picked up a set of used forward controls for cheap, but it was missing a few items.

They are a set of Ed's Aluminum 4" controls - included the 2 plates and the bracket to move the brake cable. I think I have figured out all the places/parts and how to make it work with 1 exception. It did not include an extended shift rod and I am at a loss for finding something to use in it's place :-[

The stock is about 6 1/8" long and has a rt thread on one end and a left thread on the other. Any suggestions for a replacement? Proper length? Only idea I have had is get someone with a welder to extend it by about 4" but I'm not sure how comfortable I am with that.

Please help, I'm down until I get this rod :-[

Title: Re: Help w/used Fwd Controls
Post by arteacher on 07/05/11 at 07:37:39

Just go buy a piece of threaded rod the right thread size, and put it on the end with the rh thread.

Title: Re: Help w/used Fwd Controls
Post by EJID on 07/05/11 at 07:42:33

What about how the other end is left hand thread? I thought it needed to be opposite so that it can thread on the shift lever and the engine mount lever thingy...obviously I am not a mechanic by trade

Title: Re: Help w/used Fwd Controls
Post by arteacher on 07/05/11 at 07:46:49

797675783C0 wrote:

Uhhh.... maybe i didn't think that through. :-[

Title: Re: Help w/used Fwd Controls
Post by Bubba on 07/05/11 at 08:23:22

might have to buy the rod and run the threads yourself with a tap kit...might work... :-?

Title: Re: Help w/used Fwd Controls
Post by EJID on 07/05/11 at 10:40:44

Anyone know where I can buy an extended shift rod? These are 4" extensions.

(never had much luck threading a rod before :( )

Title: Re: Help w/used Fwd Controls
Post by VAFarmer on 07/05/11 at 11:19:30

Have you tried contacting "Ed" directly?

PM possibly. If you got them at a great price off of the classys, it would be worth it to buy the right part most likely.

Otherwise, I will second the piece of rod and a tap-n-die.

If you don't want to go thru the trouble and purchase the sets, might consider taking a couple pieces of same diameter rod to a plumber or a machine shop, and have them threaded. You will need to thread count, dimensions, etc.......

God bless,

Farmer

Title: Re: Help w/used Fwd Controls
Post by EJID on 07/05/11 at 12:23:00

I have sent a PM to both EdL and Routy since they both work these things up for people, just no response yet. They were a great deal from another member here but from the sounds of it he either lost or reused the extended rod.

Title: Re: Help w/used Fwd Controls
Post by VAFarmer on 07/05/11 at 12:54:39

You didn't have a bad idea with welding another piece in.......but thats a no turning back kinda thing, you really couldn't go back to stock without buying another stock one.........not a prob really, but I cant imagine that the right one would cost too much.

Yeah, I saw that deal you got. Smokin' deal ;)

It was a 4th weekend, those guys probably are outta town, etc......

It drives me crazy when I get started on something, and then I'm outta commission for a few cause I'm missing something.

Good luck and God bless,

Farmer

P.S. Some left hand threaded rod welded to some right hand threaded rod would be just as easy as extending the old one also....... and even an ameteur weld job should hold them......seems like the force would be linear, so only pushing and pulling. No lateral stress ;)

Title: Re: Help w/used Fwd Controls
Post by CalisOsin on 07/05/11 at 13:41:24

Maybe my memory is shot, but i seem to recall the threads on the rod being the same at both ends.... it was what the rod threaded into that had one standard and one reverse thread... you should verify this before going crazy looking for the right rod.

Title: Re: Help w/used Fwd Controls
Post by EJID on 07/05/11 at 14:06:26

5775787D675B677D7A140 wrote:

Have the rod here with me @ work and here's what it looks like:

About 6 1/8" long, on the right side (darker color nut) the jam nut goes on by tightening CW, on the left side (lighter color nut) the jam nut goes on by tightening CCW. :-/

http://p1.bikepics.com/pics/2011/07/05/bikepics-2235700-800.jpg

Title: Re: Help w/used Fwd Controls
Post by BurnPgh on 07/05/11 at 14:08:32

60424F4A506C504A4D230 wrote:

Title: Re: Help w/used Fwd Controls
Post by EJID on 07/05/11 at 14:20:24

5B6C6B77497E71190 wrote:

[quote author=60424F4A506C504A4D230 link=1309876191/0#9 date=1309898484]Maybe my memory is shot, but i seem to recall the threads on the rod being the same at both ends.... it was what the rod threaded into that had one standard and one reverse thread... you should verify this before going crazy looking for the right rod.

The rod would still be LH on one side and RH on the other in that case. Cant run a RH threaded rod through a LH threaded...anything. I say match up some rod at a hardware store and visit your local mechanic. If the mech cant or wont thread your rod hit up harbor freight and buy a tap/die set. I would avoid the welded extension as a first choice as there have been reports of stock shift rods bending and breaking which is why we insist that newbies DO NOT STOMP on the shift lever.[/quote]

They are definitely threaded differently on each side, since I can't take the jam nut off of one side and thread it onto the other (it just don't work that way)

So far I have tried Lowes, Home Depot, and ACE with no luck :(

I do have a tap/die set from HF, but haven't used it much (1 or 2 times on small projects) If I get some solid rod stock to use, can I thread it with the reverse threads for the one side? or does that take some other special tool? :-/

Title: Re: Help w/used Fwd Controls
Post by Routy on 07/05/11 at 15:10:51

You guys are making it complicated when its not.
Its really quite simple,.....you need a 3/8 steel rod w/ 6mm RH male thread on one end, and tapped 6mm female RH thread on the other.
This won't be a shift rod,....it will be a 4" extension to the existing shift rod.

Title: Re: Help w/used Fwd Controls
Post by papi_ocho on 07/05/11 at 15:14:53

Do you have all the stock stuff?

If so. Imagine what an extension cord does!
Now that shift rod you have, leave it connected to the shifter LH tread
And create an extension cord with RH thread.

The creative part is making the extension!

Maybe use the parts below to make said extension

Turnbuckle
http://i2.quinbyhardware.com/7930860.jpg

Thread rod
http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSfaHVhbzhHikoERVeeZZ_MbbIn7iQyoYi24wLhX6xk_BTPJVGBQA

Should do the trick until you get your hands on the correct extension.

If I'm off the mark please feel free to tell me to :-X

Title: Re: Help w/used Fwd Controls
Post by EJID on 07/05/11 at 15:15:31

56594358444251535B5542300 wrote:

Reading that 2x was like turning on a light switch! I was thinking extension as well, but the best I could find was a 4" threaded rod but I needed a coupling nut to match (again, no luck).

Thanks for the input! :) If I can't find someone around here that can drill & tap that for me, I might get in touch with you again.

Title: Re: Help w/used Fwd Controls
Post by Routy on 07/05/11 at 15:28:12

Here is a 6" shift rod extension.
The rod is drilled and tapped 6 mm RH thread both ends. Then screw a 1 1/4" stud (made from a 6mm bolt) and a jam nut.
http://p1.bikepics.com/pics/2011/07/05/bikepics-2235759-800.jpg