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Message started by Edgar on 06/28/11 at 18:11:35

Title: Fork disassembly tool question
Post by Edgar on 06/28/11 at 18:11:35

I'm trying the 5/8 bolt in a pipe, as used by mpnoffi in the tech section post:
http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1298159607/14#14

Does the "tool" have to go all the way to the bottom of the fork or does it stop where the upper fork meets the lower fork? I aak because mine stops where the upper and lower meet...

Title: Re: Fork disassembly tool question
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/28/11 at 18:12:55

Well then, Youre gonna need a Hammer arent ya???













Now, dont go beatin on it,, I was just kidding..

Title: Re: Fork disassembly tool question
Post by mpnoffi on 06/28/11 at 19:02:06

Hi Edgar.  If I understand correctly...
I used a  36" pipe and it only went in MAYBE 2/3rds of it's total length. When you feel it bottom out, gently apply a little pressure and slowly turn the pipe until you feel it seat.
Also...giving credit where credit is due, it was Motobuddah's info...I just figured out a way to use it  without welding.

 Let us know how it goes!
mpnoffi

Title: Re: Fork disassembly tool question
Post by skeebo on 06/28/11 at 19:52:45

Mine seated at about 20 inches.

Title: Re: Fork disassembly tool question
Post by Gyrobob on 06/28/11 at 19:55:45

Edgar, are you going to replace the seals while you have it apart?

Title: Re: Fork disassembly tool question
Post by Edgar on 06/28/11 at 20:52:49

The seals look good, so probably not. I'm only taking apart one fork because my stock fork is bent. Just wanna get it apart to replace it already!

Title: Re: Fork disassembly tool question
Post by Gyrobob on 06/29/11 at 05:44:14


4667646271030 wrote:
The seals look good, so probably not. I'm only taking apart one fork because my stock fork is bent. Just wanna get it apart to replace it already!


One thing you might consider is that these seals usually have a max life of several years, or maybe 15,000 miles, give or take 10,000.  Of course there are bikes that go for decades with no leaks, and some that leak in the first week, but, the point is, if your bike has got some miles and years on it, the seals may not have a lot of life left.  Taking the forks off the bike is 80% of the labor involved in replacing seals, so it is a reasonable idea to go ahead and replace the seals while you have it apart.

One other tip, you can make a seal installation tool for about $3 using one 2' length of PVC from Home Depot or Lowe's.  See Double Ryca build, reply #35.  http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1304722902/35#35

Good luck.

Title: Re: Fork disassembly tool question
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/29/11 at 07:50:00

No way would I do the labor that puts those seals right in my lap & not change them. If they start leakin in a year, youre gonna cry..

Title: Re: Fork disassembly tool question
Post by Edgar on 06/29/11 at 13:50:43

I guess I'll go ahead and order some new ones, just toavoid having to do this again. It can never be simple!

Title: Fork disassembly tool question- UPDATED QUESTION
Post by Edgar on 06/29/11 at 14:48:40

A little update, motobudha's/mpnoffi's tool worked fine, for anyone else who doesn't have access to welding, I applied jb weld to the 5/8 bolts on each side of the tube, let it settle over night and it held perfect.

But now I have another question or you guys, I got the bottom bolt off and in this post
http://www.chopcult.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7129

It says that you can easily seperate the two tubes from eachother after removing the seals, little metal wire things, and that bolt of course. But they aren't separating for me...what did I miss??

Title: Re: Fork disassembly tool question
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/29/11 at 15:14:59

Edgar,, think man,, think!, YOu didnt see anything there that made you think?? I would NEVER let someone like that show me anything.. I dont trust those guys, not One little bit,, I strongly suspect they are either straight up Aliens from outer space or hybrids from them,, their hands are WAY too clean to be real mechanics.

Ohh,, & I have no clue what you missed,,
Those guys seem to know what there doin, tho,,
I do wish you best of luck,,
Didnt Savage Wahine leave some info on this?

Title: Re: Fork disassembly tool question- UPDATED QUESTI
Post by youzguyz on 06/30/11 at 02:29:30


7352515744360 wrote:
A little update, motobudha's/mpnoffi's tool worked fine, for anyone else who doesn't have access to welding, I applied jb weld to the 5/8 bolts on each side of the tube, let it settle over night and it held perfect.

But now I have another question or you guys, I got the bottom bolt off and in this post
http://www.chopcult.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7129

It says that you can easily seperate the two tubes from eachother after removing the seals, little metal wire things, and that bolt of course. But they aren't separating for me...what did I miss??


They don't say "easily".  They say "basically".
"At this point, you can basically pull the lower and upper legs apart and they will pull out the seals with out any damage. "
You gotta put some SLAM into it.  Grab upper and lower as in picture of the Aliens.  Push together and then YANK them apart.  Assuming you got the clip out, they will separate.   May take a few runs at it, but it will do the job.

Title: Re: Fork disassembly tool question- UPDATED QUESTI
Post by Edgar on 06/30/11 at 03:23:38


51475D524F5D5152280 wrote:
[quote author=7352515744360 link=1309309896/0#9 date=1309384120]A little update, motobudha's/mpnoffi's tool worked fine, for anyone else who doesn't have access to welding, I applied jb weld to the 5/8 bolts on each side of the tube, let it settle over night and it held perfect.

But now I have another question or you guys, I got the bottom bolt off and in this post
http://www.chopcult.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7129

It says that you can easily seperate the two tubes from eachother after removing the seals, little metal wire things, and that bolt of course. But they aren't separating for me...what did I miss??


They don't say "easily".  They say "basically".
"At this point, you can basically pull the lower and upper legs apart and they will pull out the seals with out any damage. "
You gotta put some SLAM into it.  Grab upper and lower as in picture of the Aliens.  Push together and then YANK them apart.  Assuming you got the clip out, they will separate.   May take a few runs at it, but it will do the job.
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Sweet, thanks man. I didn't have much time to try that but I'll do that today

Title: Re: Fork disassembly tool question
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/30/11 at 07:31:55

Assuming you got the clip out, they will separate.


Dont hafta be an alien to know that.

Title: Re: Fork disassembly tool question- UPDATED QUESTI
Post by Digger on 08/10/11 at 21:22:31


56405A55485A56552F0 wrote:
.....You gotta put some SLAM into it.  Grab upper and lower as in picture of the Aliens.  Push together and then YANK them apart.  Assuming you got the clip out, they will separate.   May take a few runs at it, but it will do the job.



Yep....

Think of a slide hammer being used as a puller.  The action is like that!

Title: Re: Fork disassembly tool question
Post by MotoBuddha on 08/11/11 at 08:05:18

Yes, you need to put a little "slam" into it because there's a bushing wedged into a groove at the top of the fork bottom, underneath the seal. That bushing will also need to be re-seated all the way into the groove before the seals will ever seat properly. that's why a reinstallation "tool" is necessary -- like a section of PVC pipe with an inside diameter just large enough to slide on the the fork tubes. Smack the PVC down onto the bushing until it's flush with the top of the groove, then install the washers, seals, clips and wipers.

More info here: http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1300797103/15

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