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Message started by SHaW0069 on 06/05/11 at 20:35:51

Title: JIS SCREWDRIVER SET...GOOD ENOUGH??
Post by SHaW0069 on 06/05/11 at 20:35:51

Hello !! just curious if this JIS set of screwdrivers is everything i need for taking my bike apart??

http://cgi.ebay.ca/Moody-Tools-Multi-Length-JIS-Screwdriver-Set-58-0610-/390273414643?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5ade1bb5f3

i see sizes #000, #00, #0, and #1

Do i need a #2 or any higher numbers ?? or not at all?

thanks peepz!

Title: Re: JIS SCREWDRIVER SET...GOOD ENOUGH??
Post by John_D FSO on 06/05/11 at 21:13:28

I don't really know screwdrivers by size numbers, but those kinda look like jewelers' size drivers. You'll likely need something a little bigger if that's so.

I got by without so far, but I haven't run into any real stubborn screws either. My method was to find a standard Phillips that comes close to fitting, and apply gentle pressure to loosen, while tapping the end of the handle with a hammer. Kinda a "poor mans impact driver". The correct drivers will work better though, I'm sure.

Title: Re: JIS SCREWDRIVER SET...GOOD ENOUGH??
Post by Mr. Hyde on 06/06/11 at 05:56:35

You need a #1, #2 and #3 to cover all situations. #2 is the most used. The ones you mention look like minature screwdrivers, you want standard size. Take a look at this site, at least it will give you some idea.

http://www.mcmaster.com/#jis-(japanese-industrial-standard)-screwdrivers/=cmnmll

Title: Re: JIS SCREWDRIVER SET...GOOD ENOUGH??
Post by MotoBuddha on 06/06/11 at 07:45:32

Yeah, I got a set of three drivers for about $20.

Title: Re: JIS SCREWDRIVER SET...GOOD ENOUGH??
Post by KristenAnn on 06/15/11 at 16:00:37

I got some strange looks today when i asked about JIS screwdrivers. My boyfriend looked at me like i had 3 heads. Well i told him about them and the bike and the mark on the bolts. After he went on line and read about them himself he told me i was RIGHT!!!!! HA!! i am woman hear me roar lolol ;D

Title: Re: JIS SCREWDRIVER SET...GOOD ENOUGH??
Post by drums1 on 06/15/11 at 17:51:59

Am I missing something? You're gonna need more than a couple screwdrivers to take your bike apart. There's gonna be some wrenches and sockets and other stuff involved too.

Title: Re: JIS SCREWDRIVER SET...GOOD ENOUGH??
Post by KristenAnn on 06/16/11 at 12:28:47

I have everything i need to work on the bike other than the JIS screwdrivers. :P

Title: Re: JIS SCREWDRIVER SET...GOOD ENOUGH??
Post by T2 on 06/16/11 at 12:31:59

Hey Drums, you are correct about needing other tools. The issue in this thread is that regular Phillips head screw drivers often are not very effective on the type screw heads found on Japanese motorcycles. After you booger up a few, the value of the JIS-specific tools will be clearer to you. The link provided by Mr. Hyde will land a set on your front porch faster than you can type!
Terry

Title: Re: JIS SCREWDRIVER SET...GOOD ENOUGH??
Post by Digger on 08/08/11 at 20:19:35

FWIW....

For working on these bikes, I now consider #1 and #2 JIS screwdrivers to be necessities. I also have a #3 JIS screwdriver, but consider this a "nice to have" item only, since a #3 Phillips seems to work decently well in this application.

IHTH someone!

Title: Re: JIS SCREWDRIVER SET...GOOD ENOUGH??
Post by Howitzer on 08/08/11 at 21:54:25

Will an impact driver with a philips head work? I've never used an impact driver before.

Title: Re: JIS SCREWDRIVER SET...GOOD ENOUGH??
Post by Digger on 08/19/11 at 19:17:39

4D6A726C717F6077050 wrote:

Will an impact driver with a philips head work? I've never used an impact driver before.

Yep.

And, if you happen to find a source for JIS impact bits, please share!

TIA!

Title: Re: JIS SCREWDRIVER SET...GOOD ENOUGH??
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/19/11 at 19:37:54

Have a look here.. not true jis, but they say they fit perfect

http://www.rjrcooltools.com/vessel.cfm

Title: Re: JIS SCREWDRIVER SET...GOOD ENOUGH??
Post by Digger on 08/21/11 at 19:37:21

534C4A4D50576656665E4C400B390 wrote:

Have a look here.. not true jis, but they say they fit perfect

http://www.rjrcooltools.com/vessel.cfm

Interesting.....but thes bits in the link are considerably longer than the standard Phillips impact bits I've got in my toolbox. One wonders if they are meant to be used as impact bits.

Title: Re: JIS SCREWDRIVER SET...GOOD ENOUGH??
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/21/11 at 20:44:19

Yea,, hat a point, but,

Id give them a shot,, Might lose some torque along the length,, specially on that long skinny thing.. but, the screws are pretty soft,, I expect the impct would deliver enough torque thru those tips to mess a screw up,, or bust it out,

Title: Re: JIS SCREWDRIVER SET...GOOD ENOUGH??
Post by Gyrobob on 08/22/11 at 08:20:29

7C6365627F7849794971636F24160 wrote:

Good point. The effect of the "impact" would be lessened by the torque being absorbed by the springiness of the long shaft. The shock effect of the impact driver is largest when the distance between the impact tool and the stuck screw is the shortest.

Title: Re: JIS SCREWDRIVER SET...GOOD ENOUGH??
Post by Gyrobob on 08/22/11 at 08:38:56

I wonder if you took a normal Phillips head screwdriver, and carefully filed down the rounded area between the blades so that it was a sharp angle like a JIS screwdriver,....and then ground off about .050" of the pointy end of the screwdriver,...

Title: Re: JIS SCREWDRIVER SET...GOOD ENOUGH??
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/22/11 at 09:28:15

Id try the "fake" ones first,,