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Message started by ncron1103 on 04/29/11 at 17:10:42

Title: Bikes done
Post by ncron1103 on 04/29/11 at 17:10:42

I got my bike put back together the other day only to have my starter go out on me today. but here is some quick pics of it i snapped at work. still got to do the seat this weekend and get my apes, then ill be happy  ;D I wanted something different so i went with chalkboard paint on the fenders and tank. Just something different to set it apart.

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m159/ncron1103/IMG_20110415_014758.jpg

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m159/ncron1103/IMG_20110415_014825.jpg

Title: Re: Bikes done
Post by verslagen1 on 04/29/11 at 17:58:15

if the coils didn't burn, there are rebuild kits.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/STARTER-REBUILD-REPAIR-KIT-SUZUKI-LS650P-SAVAGE-650-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem3362b23168QQitemZ220699177320


Title: Re: Bikes done
Post by mick on 04/29/11 at 22:14:37

not bad looking,I do like the color combo,is that Kawasaki green ?
more pics after the new seat,please

Title: Re: Bikes done
Post by Tincanman on 04/30/11 at 09:14:01


7A7E747C637F727B7E7A726E170 wrote:
not bad looking,I do like the color combo,is that Kawasaki green ?
more pics after the new seat,please


HUMMMM SAME color as MINE ALMOST!! you hypocrite!!! OMFG! really you are an ass!!  [smiley=beer.gif]

Title: Re: Bikes done
Post by ncron1103 on 04/30/11 at 19:05:44

Lol I ca it "advanced auto parts green" lol just cause I dont want to hear the truth that its kawasaki green. But ill get you all some more pics soon going to try and get the apes and suicide shifter on it by next weekend.oh seat done too. If you have and suggestions or pics of your suicide shifters and you dont mind can you post some pics?

Title: Re: Bikes done
Post by clueless-FSO on 04/30/11 at 19:23:50

wickedly awesome.......love the color scheme!

Title: Re: Bikes done
Post by ncron1103 on 05/01/11 at 08:59:09

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m159/ncron1103/IMG_20110429_233518.jpg


anyone guess what these are made from? this was before they were welded up and painted

Title: Re: Bikes done
Post by Savage_Amusement on 05/01/11 at 09:39:32

looks almost like a part of a swing set lol...

Title: Re: Bikes done
Post by mick on 05/01/11 at 10:48:55


1F2225282A25262A254B0 wrote:
[quote author=7A7E747C637F727B7E7A726E170 link=1304122242/0#2 date=1304140477]not bad looking,I do like the color combo,is that Kawasaki green ?
more pics after the new seat,please


HUMMMM SAME color as MINE ALMOST!! you hypocrite!!! OMFG! really you are an ass!!  [smiley=beer.gif][/quote]
but NOT the same green, yours has no black,and a stupid looking seat.
you also put more tin on yours to make matters worse.
Sorry mate no comparison.

Title: Re: Bikes done
Post by ncron1103 on 05/01/11 at 12:19:19

Its actually a shooping cart bottom. The bar that goes across the front is the part that clamps to the fork and you side bars are the rise up. If you all want me to take pics of how I did I can do a step by step guide

Title: Re: Bikes done
Post by Tincanman on 05/02/11 at 02:13:09


4F4B4149564A474E4B4F475B220 wrote:
[quote author=1F2225282A25262A254B0 link=1304122242/0#3 date=1304180041][quote author=7A7E747C637F727B7E7A726E170 link=1304122242/0#2 date=1304140477]not bad looking,I do like the color combo,is that Kawasaki green ?
more pics after the new seat,please


HUMMMM SAME color as MINE ALMOST!! you hypocrite!!! OMFG! really you are an ass!!  [smiley=beer.gif][/quote]
but NOT the same green, yours has no black,and a stupid looking seat.
you also put more tin on yours to make matters worse.
Sorry mate no comparison.[/quote]
sorry but all I hear is bla bla bla! im dirty tramp!  [smiley=beer.gif]

Title: Re: Bikes done
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/02/11 at 04:21:20


4A47564B4A15151417240 wrote:
Its actually a shooping cart bottom. The bar that goes across the front is the part that clamps to the fork and you side bars are the rise up. If you all want me to take pics of how I did I can do a step by step guide




I can do a step by step guide


Step One, steal a grocery cart  risk a trip downtown & a mugshot & a writeup in the paper

Suzuki Savage owner steals shopping cart to use parts to mod his bike.

Ohh, yea,, we NEED some publicity like that,, uh huhh..  :o

Title: Re: Bikes done
Post by EJID on 05/02/11 at 10:39:22

Agree w/JOG not necessary...also aren't you worried about the rigidity of using that for your bars?

No thanks, I will pass.  :(

Title: Re: Bikes done
Post by RidgeRunner13 on 05/02/11 at 10:52:50


726D6B6C71764777477F6D612A180 wrote:
[quote author=4A47564B4A15151417240 link=1304122242/0#9 date=1304277559]Its actually a shooping cart bottom. The bar that goes across the front is the part that clamps to the fork and you side bars are the rise up. If you all want me to take pics of how I did I can do a step by step guide





I can do a step by step guide


Step One, steal a grocery cart  risk a trip downtown & a mugshot & a writeup in the paper

Suzuki Savage owner steals shopping cart to use parts to mod his bike.

Ohh, yea,, we NEED some publicity like that,, uh huhh..  :o[/quote]


What would you like on your tombstone???  Apes are dangerous to start with, but that????? You must have a real deathwish.....I don't know any one who welds good enough for me to trust that....Please tell us your just kidding about using these!!! :-?

Title: Re: Bikes done
Post by ncron1103 on 05/02/11 at 13:13:36

Im a certified welder and have been welding for over 10 years  the welds are strong and apes are dangerous? Maybe I should throw the suicide shifter on there at the same time and see how that goes. Actually thats what im going to do!! And I didnt steal the shopping cart I went and asked. It was one that the basket was broken on it.

Title: Re: Bikes done
Post by verslagen1 on 05/02/11 at 13:36:46

Just be aware that fatigue strength will be the viper that bites your a$$.

Welds are rated at 40% as strong as the parent material by my most conservative customers.  And what is the parent material?  That would concern me the most.

btw, your welds are in the best place possible.

Title: Re: Bikes done
Post by WD on 05/03/11 at 07:06:01

Apehangers are NOT dangerous, they just have a steep learning curve. Clubmans and clip-ons however ARE dangerous, they keep your head too low to really see what is going on around you. Great for their intended environment, the racetrack.

One suggestion since it wasn't mentioned, add slugs in the bar joints. I've made many a set of custom apehangers running chunks of 7/8" bars inside 1" base section and contrl sections. The 7/8" self-slugs, just drill a couple holes and rosette weld them prior to running the full bead on the seams.

Pin your apes once you choose your mounting angle. It's simple to do, drill a hole through the riser cap and the bar. Tap it or use a self-threading bolt. Savage risers are junk, they will strip and let the bars move. I've run apes on mine for the last 7 years.

Title: Re: Bikes done
Post by topgunz1 on 05/03/11 at 08:27:50

My hands go to sleep too easy to want to ride around with them up in the air, plus I imagine a rock or large bug to the armpit would hurt like crazy, even through a jacket.

Title: Re: Bikes done
Post by WD on 05/03/11 at 21:08:39

You don't go any higher than your shoulder height if you want comfort and control.

I have 15" rise on my 98, going to have to drop to 10" rise to be street legal in TN (15" bars + cut down seat = illegal total height). Of course, my turn signals are just decorative (don't work), taiil light is too low/angled wrong, illegal muffler and tail pipe extension, less than securely mounted rear fender, rotten tires... ::)

Title: Re: Bikes done
Post by ncron1103 on 05/03/11 at 21:48:57

Thanks for the advice. Im going to run some self tapping bolts like you said and see how that works out. Im not one how likes the cromed out trailer queens. Iff its what I like im going to do. I dont do it to make everyone else happy. But I like the advice that some of you are giving. But like ive always been told crome dont get you home.  I like rat bikes been around the all my life and make most of your parts you will get more enjoyment out of them in the long run when you can step back and say yeah I built that. Thats the factor im going for.  ;D

Title: Re: Bikes done
Post by ncron1103 on 05/03/11 at 21:52:00

Hey wd where abouts is rosemark? Im right outside lexington ky.


Oh anyone ever seen the worlds longest chopper? My father in law was the main builder on it check it out sometime if your on google playing around. It was built right here in good ol georgetown,ky

Title: Re: Bikes done
Post by BC-Savage on 05/03/11 at 22:47:29

Those aren't Apehangers, These are Apehangers:

http://i700.photobucket.com/albums/ww6/bumblebee46/8421d1236026732-apehangers-apehangers.jpg

Title: Re: Bikes done
Post by ncron1103 on 05/03/11 at 23:44:25

Lol thats an understatement!!!!

Title: Re: Bikes done
Post by WD on 05/04/11 at 05:37:55

Rosemark is on TN 14, southeast of Covington, north of Memphis.

My bike doesn't even look much like a Savage anymore. 15"apes, sidemount 7" Bates/Lucas headlight, Shovelhead FLH rear fender with Panhead stainless rub strips, dirt track tank, 12" glasspack w/39" fishtail extension, cut down leather covered seat, VS800 (Intruder) rear shocks (Savage shocks are on the Intruder, cheap lowering option for my wife, Intruder is hers). And small saddlebags, need somewhere to stach a couple cases of beer... ;D

Lisa's 800 runs 10" mini-apes.

Title: Re: Bikes done
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/05/11 at 05:17:31

Arent Mini Ape bars named wrong? Shoudnt thy be called Monkey Bars?

Title: Re: Bikes done
Post by Arnold on 05/05/11 at 08:55:11

Well Monkeys have a tail though.

Title: Re: Bikes done
Post by WD on 05/05/11 at 22:23:02

12" rise and up are apehangers. 8" and 10" list as mini-apes or mid-high rise chopper bars.

Monkey bars? Clubman's and rear sets, rider looks like a monkey F'n a football... ::)

Title: Re: Bikes done
Post by EJID on 05/06/11 at 09:04:17


1605410 wrote:
12" rise and up are apehangers. 8" and 10" list as mini-apes or mid-high rise chopper bars.

Monkey bars? Clubman's and rear sets, rider looks like a monkey F'n a football... ::)


;D +1

You're perspective covers both ends of the spectrum that people have been tending to do with these bikes. On one end you have the custom bobbers and choppers who like the mini-apes/apes and on the other end you have the ones converting their bikes to cafe racers with clubmans or clip-ons. It's all a personal preference, and I think I would prefer to kick back and be comfortable rather than hunched over hugging the tank. (But that's just my opinion.)

Title: Re: Bikes done
Post by mick on 05/06/11 at 10:31:07

they don't look to be an inch in diameter, way to thin.
And there is a reason they call them "Apes"
To me anyway they look rediculous,very unsafe, the handling must be god awfull. Make sure you have medical insurance before you venture out on your beast..

Title: Re: Bikes done
Post by Starlifter on 05/06/11 at 11:17:00

Just what exactly what are ape hangers for? Are they suppose to look cool? Why care if maybe 5% of riders think they look cool when 95% think they look odd, silly, or dangerous. Are they suppose to be retro like the bikes in "Easy Rider"? (Peter Fonda stated that bike (Capt. America) was the most uncomfortable, unstable, and hard to handle unsafe bike he ever rode.

Are ape hangers in some anatomically strange way comfortable? They couldn't aid in handling, they couldn't possibly be used on long rides...could they?

No disrespect, I would just like to know the thinking behind this.

Title: Re: Bikes done
Post by WD on 05/06/11 at 16:15:38

For me, they keep my lower spine at the right angle to my legs and butt. I have a degenerative joint and disc condition. I can sit on my Honda with flat tracker style bars for a couple minutes, tops. Can't even sit on a bike with clip-ons anymore.

I rode one of my Panheads from Spokane Wa to Tijuana Mexico with apehangers. Didn't walk right for a week, but I think that had more to do with the fact it was a "double rigid", hardmounted seat on a stock 53 HD rigid frame. And the less than 48 hours start to finish.

My 99 Vulcan 800A had 12" rise bars, I put 40K miles on it in 18 months. I might have put 400 miles on my 05 Vulcan 800 Classic in 4 months, stock low bars. I hated the ride position on the Classic (and handling sucked with a 16" front wheel). Identical seating positions other than the bars.

Title: Re: Bikes done
Post by Starlifter on 05/06/11 at 16:25:35

Makes sense, thanks for the info.

Title: Re: Bikes done
Post by ncron1103 on 05/24/11 at 23:31:50

Apes are going on this weekend and the tops of the seats are going shag lime green apes help my back also

Title: Re: Bikes done
Post by ncron1103 on 06/27/11 at 00:09:14

Mocking them up on the parts bike will have pictures of it done. Also got the suicide shifter and foot clutch built the other day. Pics as soon as shes on the road again

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m159/ncron1103/IMG_20110626_230338.jpg

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m159/ncron1103/IMG_20110626_205121.jpg

Keep in mind this is the parts bike


Heres what Im facing at this moment with mine. I got a great fix for it and will have instructions on how to do it as i go.


http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m159/ncron1103/IMG_20110618_172827-1.jpg

Title: Re: Bikes done
Post by ncron1103 on 06/27/11 at 00:12:44

Heres how i attached my stock clutch cable to the shifter to use it as my foot clutch.


http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m159/ncron1103/IMG_20110624_004627-1.jpg


And just some pictures before everything else goes on.


http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m159/ncron1103/IMG_7098-1.jpg


http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m159/ncron1103/IMG_8528-1.jpg

Title: Re: Bikes done
Post by ncron1103 on 07/04/11 at 10:26:23

So as some of you know my timing chain tensioner went out a couple weeks ago. I got to thinking about this today what if when i bought a tensioner if i just took a link out of my chain. The tensioner wouldn't have enough slack to come out then. Just let me know on your thoughts. my be another solution to the tensioner coming apart.

what i got done on it last night

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m159/ncron1103/IMG_20110704_012039.jpg

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m159/ncron1103/IMG_20110704_012056.jpg

Title: Re: Bikes done
Post by ncron1103 on 07/04/11 at 10:27:47

So as some of you know my timing chain tensioner went out a couple weeks ago. I got to thinking about this today what if when i bought a tensioner if i just took a link out of my chain. The tensioner wouldn't have enough slack to come out then. Just let me know on your thoughts. my be another solution to the tensioner coming apart.

what i got done on it last night

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m159/ncron1103/IMG_20110704_012039.jpg

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m159/ncron1103/IMG_20110704_012056.jpg

Title: Re: Bikes done
Post by verslagen1 on 07/04/11 at 10:38:32


303D2C31306F6F6E6D5E0 wrote:
So as some of you know my timing chain tensioner went out a couple weeks ago. I got to thinking about this today what if when i bought a tensioner if i just took a link out of my chain. The tensioner wouldn't have enough slack to come out then. Just let me know on your thoughts. my be another solution to the tensioner coming apart.


1st problem... the pins are locked in by deforming the ends.  So taking them apart and putting them back together can't be done w/o spare pins.

2nd problem... the given max stretch of the chain is only .07" and the pitch of the chain is 0.25"

3rd problem... can't just take out one link or 0.25", has to be 2 or male and female links for a 0.50".  Not enough slack in the chain to do that.

Title: Re: Bikes done
Post by ncron1103 on 07/04/11 at 10:53:32

yeah i wasnt thinking clearly about having to take a male and female out

Title: Re: Bikes done
Post by Serowbot on 07/04/11 at 10:57:59

Definitely going to win the orangutan award... :-?...

http://www.divehappy.com/borneo/sepilok_orangutan.jpg

Title: Re: Bikes done
Post by ncron1103 on 07/04/11 at 11:31:59

lol just one more stupid question (little sleep drank beer last night till got tired of working on it) do you really think the timing chain stretched? its only got a little under 20k miles on it

Title: Re: Bikes done
Post by verslagen1 on 07/04/11 at 12:36:18


696475686936363734070 wrote:
lol just one more stupid question (little sleep drank beer last night till got tired of working on it) do you really think the timing chain stretched? its only got a little under 20k miles on it

The evidence is clear, the chain is either stretched or guides are worn.
You can measure the chain, and visually inspect the guides.
from experience, yes it is, and yes they are.
replacing the chain will get you halfway back by itself.
replacing the guides will get you a quarter back.

Title: Re: Bikes done
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/05/11 at 17:47:40

& a Verslavy will get ya All the Way back on the road

Title: Re: Bikes done
Post by ncron1103 on 07/07/11 at 21:52:11

I think the chain is stretched just a little.

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m159/ncron1103/IMG_20110705_164044.jpg

so in we go.....

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m159/ncron1103/IMG_20110704_012039.jpg

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m159/ncron1103/IMG_20110704_012056.jpg


newest edition to the family.....Jaxson David



http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m159/ncron1103/IMG_20110703_220116.jpg

Title: Re: Bikes done
Post by verslagen1 on 07/07/11 at 22:04:55

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m159/ncron1103/IMG_20110703_220116.jpg

I know that look anywhere... translation... hey pops, the gear goes on before the nut!

8-)

Title: Re: Bikes done
Post by ncron1103 on 07/09/11 at 06:48:22

Got the bike timed and put back together last night and it fired right up!!! Suicide shifter and foot clutch are on now just got to get the apes and tiddy up a couple things ands good to go!! Will post pics soon

Title: Re: Bikes done
Post by skatnbnc on 07/09/11 at 18:07:07


704D4A47454A49454A240 wrote:
[quote author=7A7E747C637F727B7E7A726E170 link=1304122242/0#2 date=1304140477]not bad looking,I do like the color combo,is that Kawasaki green ?
more pics after the new seat,please


HUMMMM SAME color as MINE ALMOST!! you hypocrite!!! OMFG! really you are an ass!!  [smiley=beer.gif][/quote]

Plagarism is the best form of flattery!  ;D

Title: Re: Bikes done
Post by ncron1103 on 07/10/11 at 02:13:28

Got the apes on today and I must say its wild and fun to ride. People looked at me like I was crazy!!oh we that what I get for airing out my armpits:-)  ill get it out tomorrow and take pictures of it. It got dark on me to fast. I think im gonna move to alaska so I can get more daytimeriding in.

Title: Re: Bikes done
Post by ncron1103 on 07/11/11 at 16:14:54

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m159/ncron1103/IMG_20110711_085033.jpg

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m159/ncron1103/IMG_20110711_085022.jpg

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m159/ncron1103/IMG_20110711_085007.jpg

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m159/ncron1103/IMG_20110711_084959.jpg

Title: Re: Bikes done
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/12/11 at 03:58:19

The unguarded belt/pulley pinch point is terrifying. If you went down & any part of your body went in there,, youd be forever wounded.

Title: Re: Bikes done
Post by splash07 on 07/13/11 at 07:31:27

Why did you keep the rotor on there if you dont have a front brake?

Title: Re: Bikes done
Post by ncron1103 on 07/13/11 at 19:32:27

Im going take it off just wanted tl make sure the apes were what I wanted on the bike. If I ended up not liking them it would be easier to just slide the caliper back on there. And the side cover not being on it, I had to modify it to clear the shifter. These pictures were from a test run.

Title: Re: Bikes done
Post by splash07 on 07/13/11 at 20:43:18

I like the apes a lot! but the green frame is the highlight. I am big on green.

Title: Re: Bikes done
Post by ncron1103 on 07/14/11 at 15:22:11

Thanks

Title: Re: Bikes done
Post by MrBrownTX on 07/14/11 at 15:33:04

I would love to see a picture of you reaching up to those apes.

Title: Re: Bikes done
Post by ncron1103 on 07/14/11 at 21:20:54

Lol alright im 6'1 its really comfortable for me. I have long monkey arms already

Title: Re: Bikes done
Post by ncron1103 on 08/20/11 at 09:00:08

decided to change it up a little bit a couple weeks ago.

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m159/ncron1103/IMG_20110813_081522.jpg

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m159/ncron1103/IMG_20110813_081533.jpg

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m159/ncron1103/IMG_20110813_081542.jpg

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m159/ncron1103/IMG_20110813_081555.jpg



me and my friend on here mike got caught in a really bad storm last weekend.

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m159/ncron1103/IMG_20110813_192943.jpg

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m159/ncron1103/IMG_20110813_193001.jpg

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m159/ncron1103/IMG_20110813_193011.jpg

Title: Re: Bikes done
Post by jef.savage on 08/20/11 at 09:27:12

Much better.  Now get rid of that nasty tail light.

Title: Re: Bikes done
Post by Gyrobob on 08/20/11 at 11:17:52

Why is this thread in the Cafe, and not RSD?

Title: Re: Bikes done
Post by ncron1103 on 08/20/11 at 19:17:49

Bike didnt start out as a cafe bike. Its just going threw a bunch of changes and styles. Kinda liking it the way it is now. This winter it will get taken down and completely redone from top to bottom. Motors get a big bore all new insides everything in it is going to be new. Frames gonna look totally different as well

Title: Re: Bikes done
Post by Gyrobob on 08/21/11 at 06:24:00


606D7C61603F3F3E3D0E0 wrote:
Bike didnt start out as a cafe bike. Its just going threw a bunch of changes and styles. Kinda liking it the way it is now. This winter it will get taken down and completely redone from top to bottom. Motors get a big bore all new insides everything in it is going to be new. Frames gonna look totally different as well


I don't mean cafe bike.  This bike has very little in common with cafe bikes.  What I am asking is why is this thread here,... in "The Cafe" ??

The "Cafe" (as opposed to "Rubber Side Down" or "Technical Documents") is intended for any subject at all,… guns, politics, soap operas, Fair Tax, airplanes, movies, whatever.

I was just thinking that this discussion about your admirable effort should be where most of the motorcycle build discussions are: Rubber Side Down.

You’d sure get a lot more folks to see the fruits of your labor if the thread resided in RSD, rather than Café.

Title: Re: Bikes done
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/21/11 at 11:32:49

No front brake? That seem like a really bad idea to me,.

Title: Re: Bikes done
Post by Gyrobob on 08/21/11 at 18:09:35


544B4D4A5750615161594B470C3E0 wrote:
No front brake? That seem like a really bad idea to me,.



ditto

Title: Re: Bikes done
Post by ncron1103 on 08/22/11 at 06:32:29

Front brakes on it just not in the picture

Title: Re: Bikes done
Post by ncron1103 on 08/22/11 at 06:33:50

Mod want to move this thread to the rubber side down area?

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