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Message started by roger dodger on 04/29/11 at 07:32:13

Title: HELP 1st fill-up and it died!
Post by roger dodger on 04/29/11 at 07:32:13

Embarrassing 1st question....my 1st fill-up w/ my new (used) Savage and I put in 2.5  gals of non-oxy gas. I left the station and within 2 blocks, it back-fired, sputtered, and died.

I may have over-filled the tank (over the bottom of the neck) so what did I flood to make it quit (and not re-start)?

I pushed it home  (1 mile..up-hill...both ways) and drained the bowl. Checked the petcock for flow. Dry air filter. I siphoned about 1/2 gal of gas out to lower the tank level....and still no hint of a start!

Title: Re: HELP 1st fill-up and it died!
Post by Serowbot on 04/29/11 at 07:39:39

If you overfill, it'll make gas pour out of the cap,.. but no reason it won't start...

It wasn't diesel was it?..

Check your start regimen... key on(one click), shut-off switch on, kickstand up, clutch in,... start...

Title: Re: HELP 1st fill-up and it died!
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/29/11 at 07:43:37

The bowl was full? If the bowl was full, then was it good gas or was it crappy looking stuff?
Pull the plug & look for spark, too.

You didnt bump the kill switch did yaa?

Title: Re: HELP 1st fill-up and it died!
Post by Mr. Hyde on 04/29/11 at 07:49:50

Same thing happened to my daughter. She filled up with the same gas she always does, went 2 blocks and the engine died. Long story short - the dealer had just received a new gas shipment and the guy in the truck filled up the wrong tank with diesel. We got her tank drained,  fill it with fresh gas, engine fired up, went back to the station where 20 other people were in line, got the price of the gas, + $100 for our trouble.

Title: Re: HELP 1st fill-up and it died!
Post by Yonuh Adisi FSO on 04/29/11 at 08:09:35


4D50585A4D5B505B585A4D3F0 wrote:
Embarrassing 1st question....my 1st fill-up w/ my new (used) Savage and I put in 2.5  gals of non-oxy gas. I left the station and within 2 blocks, it back-fired, sputtered, and died.


OH NO, YOU POISONED IT!!! http://annemccaffreyfans.org/forum/images/smilies/crazy.gif

Sorry couldn't resist.

Title: Re: HELP 1st fill-up and it died!
Post by roger dodger on 04/29/11 at 08:54:53

It ran 2 blocks...so I know it's not a 'switch' of some kind. If I can't 'over-fill', then it must be the gas! I hope THEY had the wrong gas vs I pumped the wrong gas. What a dope!  :-[  I do love this bike! :)

Title: Re: HELP 1st fill-up and it died!
Post by verslagen1 on 04/29/11 at 09:17:51

Don't rule out a switch.
I had a rock hit my faceshield then bounce off of run/kill switch turning it off.  Of course I didn't see it hit the run/kill, but I did notice the bike slowing.  A few minutes later WTF is this doing off for?

Title: Re: HELP 1st fill-up and it died!
Post by thumperclone on 04/29/11 at 09:28:07

check side stand switch

Title: Re: HELP 1st fill-up and it died!
Post by ALfromN.H. on 04/29/11 at 09:32:55


53405756494442404B14250 wrote:
Don't rule out a switch.
I had a rock hit my faceshield then bounce off of run/kill switch turning it off.  Of course I didn't see it hit the run/kill, but I did notice the bike slowing.  A few minutes later WTF is this doing off for?


I had a similar situation when I went over a small bump and the watch that was clipped to the mirror stem bounced and slammed down on the kill switch. Just like you, I didn't see it happen so it took me few minutes on side of the road to figure it out.

Title: Re: HELP 1st fill-up and it died!
Post by Serowbot on 04/29/11 at 09:59:21

I pushed the kill switch once, while reaching for the horn...

Now that's embarrassing!... :-[...

Title: Re: HELP 1st fill-up and it died!
Post by roger dodger on 04/29/11 at 12:11:10

Thanks guys for all the quick (witted) responses. I called the station and deduced 'I' went to the non-oxy pump, but put in deisel fuel accidentally. :-[

I was in a hurry, had just changed oil, and bled brakes on a different bike....and didn't do it RIGHT!

Now, I ass-ume I can simply drain the tank (and carb) and re-fill w/ GAS. Any other tips for righting my wrong? Thanks loads!!!!


Title: Re: HELP 1st fill-up and it died!
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/29/11 at 14:44:51

Disconnect hose to carb from tank at carb. Put hose into gas can.Put the petcock on Prime & Drain diesel in. Drain carb bowl. Hook up hose to carb. Gas in the tank, put it on prime, fire that dude up...

Title: Re: HELP 1st fill-up and it died!
Post by roger dodger on 04/29/11 at 16:52:45

Yep, did it just like Justin said and it worked! ;D

I screwed up after 30+ years...and put in the diesel :-[ (bet this doesn't happen for another 30 years). Thanks again for all the comments.

Title: Re: HELP 1st fill-up and it died!
Post by Routy on 04/29/11 at 19:19:15

Seems like I would smell that stuff before the tank got filled.

And am I right in that it will run on diesel if you keep it cobbed while it was still running ? ;D

Title: Re: HELP 1st fill-up and it died!
Post by bill67 on 04/29/11 at 19:41:16

I filled up my wifes bike and mine once with diesel fuel,Just as I got the second bike filled the owner came out and ask if they diesel motors,I think he was watching me,So he made some money that day.Small gas station one pump one side diesel the other side gas.

Title: Re: HELP 1st fill-up and it died!
Post by Routy on 04/29/11 at 21:00:46

And you didn't smell that rotten diesel either ! :o

Title: Re: HELP 1st fill-up and it died!
Post by rustysavage on 04/30/11 at 20:11:01

This happens more often than you think. At least you didn't fill your $70k diesel truck with high test from empty and drive it till it quite. Like a gentleman did a month ago void warrenty, on the hook for a very expensive repair. Tried to blame the station but they had him on camera filling it with gas!

Title: Re: HELP 1st fill-up and it died!
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/30/11 at 20:12:58


13120C410 wrote:
This happens more often than you think. At least you didn't fill your $70k diesel truck with high test from empty and drive it till it quite. Like a gentleman did a month ago void warrenty, on the hook for a very expensive repair. Tried to blame the station but they had him on camera filling it with gas!





OUCH!!!

Title: Re: HELP 1st fill-up and it died!
Post by Boofer on 04/30/11 at 20:22:38

Hmmm...a diesel savage...How much do you shave off the head for 20:1 compression ratio?

Title: Re: HELP 1st fill-up and it died!
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/30/11 at 20:24:25

I put a little diesel in gasoline  engines sometimes, but Ive seen what going too far does..

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