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Title: GEAR DOESNT SLAM DOWN?? Post by SHaW0069 on 04/23/11 at 22:27:38 Hello my fello Rebles... What the hell .... i went to a stop light tonight in my 07 boulevard and i could not hit 1st!! gear!! i had to go to 2nd!!?? i just bought the bike.. less than 60km ago.. is this normal?? it was like its stuck in neutral sometimes too... weird..... is this normal? am i down shifting wrong or does other ppl find they get stuck in neutrall too.. especially shift from second to first??? ......i was stuck in neutral ...trying to hit first... didnt hit to like the 12th try normal? prob not... clutch too lose? ... im a noob and this seems weird even for me... thanks for the help .. it just hit 15,000km ..... plz help the noobie ! hehe.. i was in neutral and she keep slipping?? must have because when i hit her down shje keep sliding to neutral .... after 12th try she went to 1st.... plz help... THANKS BROSKI'S!! |
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Title: Re: GEAR DOESNT SLAM DOWN?? Post by SHaW0069 on 04/23/11 at 22:32:17 I HAD TO KEEP SHIFTING DOWN ... LIKE 12X FOR IT TO HIT FIRST.... AND THIS IS STARTING TO BECOME NORMAL... ANY SUGGESTIONS AS TOO WHY...?? im not sure why it likes to hit gear better than normal sometimes... but its becomeing a pain now... |
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Title: Re: GEAR DOESNT SLAM DOWN?? Post by BurnPgh on 04/23/11 at 22:43:05 Downshift all the way to first before you totally stop rolling. It is actually pretty normal for it to have trouble shifting down from nuetral if it's at a total stand still. If you need to be in neutral at a stop (which is unsafe) and have to shift down either give it just the slightest touch of throttle while shifting down BEFORE letting the clutch out and it'll snip right into gear OR let the clutch out just a bit while shifting down BEFORE giving it any throttle and it'll snip right into gear. Every make and model vehicle has its quirks. You just found #1. #2 is the false nuetral between 4th and 5th on the 1995 and newer bikes. #3 If you get a squeeking it's probably the belt. #4 if you get a rattling...headlight and/or speedo. #5 stock jetting is lean... The least obvious and most serious is the cam chain. Look through the Tech Documents and read up. If you have 10k miles or more I'd suggest checking it right away. Might not need adressed right away...or it might. But you need to know one way or the other or you could literally destroy your top end in the blink of an eye. The bike's simple but quirky. Get to know it and learn how to care for it and it'll return the favor. PS - Where are you from. EDIT - DO NOT SLAM ON SHIFT LEVER Its connected to a shift linkage rod that can and will bend and/or break if you slam on it. Firm pressure. Do not slam or you may end up being stuck in whatever gear you're in and you'll have to replace the rod. |
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Title: Re: GEAR DOESNT SLAM DOWN?? Post by verslagen1 on 04/24/11 at 00:30:37 Yes don't slam on the shifter, you'll bend stuff and it'll only get harder. Here's what always works for me... apply some weight to the shifter, then slowly ease out the clutch. as soon as it starts to move it'll drop into gear. Pull in the clutch and do it again till you're in 1st. this also applies to shifting normally, apply a little pressure, clutch, throttle and before you know it... it's shifted. This works well for going thru the false neutral between 4 & 5. after you get the hang of this, clutchless shifting or quick shift. |
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Title: Re: GEAR DOESNT SLAM DOWN?? Post by arteacher on 04/24/11 at 04:16:52 Clutchless shifting? I have arthritis in my hands and would love to know how to do that so it won't damage the bike! |
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Title: Re: GEAR DOESNT SLAM DOWN?? Post by bill67 on 04/24/11 at 06:21:54 333838313D323329285C0 wrote:
Just let off the gas and shift |
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Title: Re: GEAR DOESNT SLAM DOWN?? Post by Routy on 04/24/11 at 07:33:11 6D66636339380F0 wrote:
Just let off the gas and shift[/quote] I would describe it like this,......................... Unload the engine, then shift. Or use slight pressure on the shifter, then slowly lighten up on the throttle till it shifts. Don't let completely off the throttle ! That will put a load on the tranny in the opposite direction. Did I say that right ?? :o |
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Title: Re: GEAR DOESNT SLAM DOWN?? Post by MotoBuddha on 04/24/11 at 07:40:21 Yeah, it's a quick, short, partial easing off of the throttle, properly timed with flicking the gear lever. Upshifting is easy to learn. Downshifting without the clutch takes a little more skill. |
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Title: Re: GEAR DOESNT SLAM DOWN?? Post by verslagen1 on 04/24/11 at 08:34:16 Try 4 to 5 1st it's the easiest just a quick flip of the throttle to drop the rpm's and lift up with your toe. practice this whenever you can and when you get the hang of it (when to shift, how much flip) then progress to other gears. and yeah down shifting is harder, i can do it, but much smoother to use the clutch. |
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Title: Re: GEAR DOESNT SLAM DOWN?? Post by Routy on 04/24/11 at 09:12:37 Actually I seldom do it except 4 to 5th. It may not hurt, but I don't feel right about it,........I guess I keep thinking the clutch was put there for a purpose ? :o |
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Title: Re: GEAR DOESNT SLAM DOWN?? Post by MotoBuddha on 04/24/11 at 09:24:23 Bad use of the clutch can cause damage too. ;) |
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Title: Re: GEAR DOESNT SLAM DOWN?? Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/24/11 at 10:58:22 303F253E222437353D3324560 wrote:
Ive driven 18 wheelers & shifted w/o a clutch. Its there to make it easy to start from zero. The RPM difference between 1st & 2nd makes clutch important there, to keep from jerking th thing around, but from 2nd up to 5th & back, no clutch is needed. Its just a coordinated move with toe & throttle. IF the gears are loaded, feeling pressure from accelerating OR ecelerating, it wont shift, gotta synch the RPM with the trans & take pressure off the gears. Its easy, you do it all th time, you just arent always wanting to shift when you do it. |
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Title: Re: GEAR DOESNT SLAM DOWN?? Post by SHaW0069 on 04/24/11 at 12:05:29 thanks for the fast response guys! ill play with it a bit. |
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Title: Re: GEAR DOESNT SLAM DOWN?? Post by Routy on 04/24/11 at 12:55:13 46647F64497E6F6F636A0B0 wrote:
Yeah, like WOT, then dump it :-[ |
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Title: Re: GEAR DOESNT SLAM DOWN?? Post by Yonuh Adisi FSO on 04/25/11 at 10:00:21 I think everyone should learn how to shift without using the clutch as a safety measure if for no other reason. I can't count how many times knowing how to speed shift has saved me from a long walk because of a snapped clutch cable on both cars and bikes. |
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Title: Re: GEAR DOESNT SLAM DOWN?? Post by Fish on 04/25/11 at 16:27:53 I am starting to practice it now thanks to this thread. I'll follow the advice of starting with 4th to 5th and then work on the others. I did a few of the lower gear changes well yesterday. Today I went from 2nd to 3rd and hadn't let off the throttle enough. That is not a clunk I, or my bike, want to feel too many times. |
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Title: Re: GEAR DOESNT SLAM DOWN?? Post by JohnBoy on 04/25/11 at 21:26:10 0234352E331A3F3228325B0 wrote:
Use common sense here and learn this on nice flat ground away from traffic. This is an important skill to learn and will serve you well. |
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Title: Re: GEAR DOESNT SLAM DOWN?? Post by BurnPgh on 04/26/11 at 13:38:39 wait...are you saying shifting to/from any gear even while riding is difficult? Or is it just shifting to first from nuetral at a stop? |
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Title: Re: GEAR DOESNT SLAM DOWN?? Post by lukeduck on 04/26/11 at 18:24:46 Maybe a stupid question, is the clutch adjusted properly? The knurled lucknut that locks the adjustment (at the grip) sometimes like to loosen up. Really messer with my head the first time it happened. |
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Title: Re: GEAR DOESNT SLAM DOWN?? Post by cafdad on 04/26/11 at 18:59:44 I have also sometimes had difficulty down shifting to 1st if I haven't done it before I stopped. It seems like it is stuck in neutral. However, I have found that if I simply let the clutch all the way out (while it is stuck in neutral) and then pull it back in, it shifts into 1st without a problem. |
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Title: Re: GEAR DOESNT SLAM DOWN?? Post by royblueboy on 04/26/11 at 19:12:03 i had the same results, if you are stopped and you have the neutral light, just let the clutch out and then back in, it will drop in first every time. |
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Title: Re: GEAR DOESNT SLAM DOWN?? Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/26/11 at 19:45:35 Gotta get the trans guts spinning,,then itll drop into 1st easy. If youre driving a truck & you want to shift down, you ease the trans ino neutral by unloading the gears & sticking it in neutral, then, you goose the engine UP, to the RPM needed to run That Speed, in the Lower Gear, then, Itll shift right in.. If you want to shift Up, say from 2nd to 3rd, & youre running 2,300 RPM in 2nd & itll run that speed at 1,000 RPM in 3rd, then you can slip out of gear & let off the gas & watch the RPM all,, when it gets close to 1,000 RPM, pull toward 2nd & be ready to feather the gas a touch.. A bike is easier. |
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