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Message started by Serowbot on 04/23/11 at 19:12:05

Title: Front belt pulley washer...
Post by Serowbot on 04/23/11 at 19:12:05

... just bought a new one,... and it is bowled around the edge.  Don't remember my original being like that.
I hope it holds better... I know it'll be easier to fold to the nut...

Gonna' scuff the threads, lok-tite it, and put it on with a 250lb impact wrench...  
... if that don't work,... the welder's comin' out...  >:(...


PS,... that sucker's come loose a half dozen times... last time, I did loc-tite (red), and impact wrench...  loose again...

I should be proud,... my bike's a TorqueMonster!...  
Heck,.. I am proud....   ... and a little annoyed... :-?...

Title: Re: Front belt pulley washer...
Post by gerald.hughes on 04/23/11 at 19:20:16

I would say that your gremlin is having you on.

Title: Re: Front belt pulley washer...
Post by Serowbot on 04/23/11 at 19:34:13

I have a bell for that... ;)...

Title: Re: Front belt pulley washer...
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/23/11 at 20:24:18

Maybe a hearing aid for that blasted Gremlin is in order..or a bigger  bell?

Title: Re: Front belt pulley washer...
Post by thumperclone on 04/23/11 at 20:46:45

just a quick scan of the ssm
72.5>94 lb-ft  is spec for that nut

gremlins are tourque less


Title: Re: Front belt pulley washer...
Post by Serowbot on 04/23/11 at 23:55:24


203F393E23241525152D3F33784A0 wrote:
Maybe a hearing aid for that blasted Gremlin is in order..or a bigger  bell?

...maybe I dropped my clanger?... I better check... :-?...

Title: Re: Front belt pulley washer...
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/24/11 at 01:15:24


4D5B4C51495C514A3E0 wrote:
[quote author=203F393E23241525152D3F33784A0 link=1303611125/0#3 date=1303615458]Maybe a hearing aid for that blasted Gremlin is in order..or a bigger  bell?

...maybe I dropped my clanger?... I better check... :-?...[/quote]


You gotta check? KInda seems like something a fella otta just KNOW, dont it?

Title: Re: Front belt pulley washer...
Post by engineer on 04/25/11 at 10:22:05

You have certainly torqued it on there and you probably did the last few times as well.  I wonder if the problem is with the pulley.  If excess clearance has developed on the splines and the pulley rotates slightly forward and backward on the shaft as the bike accelerates and decelerates that movement might, over time, tend to screw the nut loose no matter how tight you put it on.  Maybe it is time to look for a new pulley or put some epoxy/filler on the pulley splines and shaft to fill in the clearance and stop the rotation.  It's just a guess but I have seen the same sort of problem in other types of machinery using a splined drive shaft.  

A taper lock pulley hub is a much better way to go and I don't understand why manufacturers don't correct chronic mechanical problems.  The taper pulley hub would cost them a couple bucks more but they would make it up by not cutting all those spline teeth in the shaft and pulley.

Title: Re: Front belt pulley washer...
Post by MotoBuddha on 04/25/11 at 10:51:42

I think Suzuki's mentality with the LS650 is that it's a short-term, beginners' bike, unlikely to run up a lot of mileage. And being a beginner bike, the owners are less likely to spot something going wrong. So they design it to be sufficiently durable for that use, and to meet an entry-level price point.

Title: Re: Front belt pulley washer...
Post by Serowbot on 04/25/11 at 10:53:06


7E7C777C757C706A190 wrote:
You have certainly torqued it on there and you probably did the last few times as well.  I wonder if the problem is with the pulley.  If excess clearance has developed on the splines and the pulley rotates slightly forward and backward on the shaft as the bike accelerates and decelerates that movement might, over time, tend to screw the nut loose no matter how tight you put it on.  Maybe it is time to look for a new pulley or put some epoxy/filler on the pulley splines and shaft to fill in the clearance and stop the rotation.  It's just a guess but I have seen the same sort of problem in other types of machinery using a splined drive shaft.

I'll do a close inspection for that when I install the new washer... ;)...

Title: Re: Front belt pulley washer...
Post by MotoBuddha on 04/25/11 at 12:53:45

What I don't understand is how the nut can loosen if the washer is bent to keep it from turning.

Title: Re: Front belt pulley washer...
Post by BurnPgh on 04/25/11 at 13:16:21

its only bent up on itself. it needs to be bent up against the nut and against something that doesnt move. A tab on the case or something. I've often wondered what real purpose that washer is supposed to serve other than to take scraping from torquing the nut instead of the pulley.

Title: Re: Front belt pulley washer...
Post by Serowbot on 04/25/11 at 13:55:33

Actually, the washer is toothed to fit the shaft... but, my thinking is, that the washer teeth have worn a bit and are allowing the nut and washer to wiggle loose together... so I bought a new one to try it...

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