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Title: savage wont turn on.. please read. Post by miickeyxd on 04/14/11 at 10:00:45 i just bought a savage, 05 with 1,900 miles. yesterday i change the spark plug, clean the carb, and put a cone filter on. put everything back and when i turn the key over nothing happen? no lights came on or anything. so i thought it was a ground i may have forgot. i double check my conections and they look good. i was tired of messing with it and went inside. the next day came home from work and thought i mess with it. put the key in turned it and it started like a champ (jardine exhaust sounds great). turn it off and started it again 3-4 times just to see if it would start again and it turned over everytime. well left the bike alone for about 12 hours. and i came home from work turn the key over and no lights came on again. so i bought a new battery and still nothing happens, so its not a starting problem more like a connecting problem. now im thinking its a loose plug or some sort of ground im missing. can someone help me out? thanks |
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Title: Re: savage wont turn on.. please read. Post by miickeyxd on 04/14/11 at 10:38:01 come on guys, any information will help. ;D |
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Title: Re: savage wont turn on.. please read. Post by Serowbot on 04/14/11 at 10:44:35 Sounds like a loose ground... check the ground strap that connects to the engine down behind the clutch actuator on the right side... If not that,.. start at the key and check connectors down the line... |
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Title: Re: savage wont turn on.. please read. Post by miickeyxd on 04/14/11 at 11:01:38 thanks, appreciate it! i wouldnt know where to start because i came from a background of liter bikes (zx-10 and gsxr 1k) so this savage is new to me but i love riding it. |
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Title: Re: savage wont turn on.. please read. Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/14/11 at 11:14:04 Id have to look at the fuse, located under your right thigh if you are on the bike, look up under that side of the seat. |
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Title: Re: savage wont turn on.. please read. Post by EJID on 04/14/11 at 11:31:04 Not even a light, I would agree with BOT and JOG, but if you have a light I would check all the safey switches. Clutch lever Kickstand Neutral :-? |
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Title: Re: savage wont turn on.. please read. Post by miickeyxd on 04/14/11 at 12:51:11 ok i did take off the belt guard maybe there is something there. i did check a fuse i pulled the cap off and there was (2) 20amp fuses and they looked good. is that the fuse youre talking about under the seat? |
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Title: Re: savage wont turn on.. please read. Post by Serowbot on 04/14/11 at 12:56:13 only the two fuses... nuttin' under the belt guard... ... check that ground strap... |
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Title: Re: savage wont turn on.. please read. Post by Yonuh Adisi FSO on 04/14/11 at 13:02:33 Also check the connection under the tank. It likes to get into the habit of coming loose. |
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Title: Re: savage wont turn on.. please read. Post by miickeyxd on 04/14/11 at 13:13:31 cant seem to find the ground strap? and the connection under the tank? are you talking about the one that you have to disconnect when you pull off the tank? if so ive check that and its pretty tight together. |
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Title: Re: savage wont turn on.. please read. Post by dasch on 04/14/11 at 13:24:20 during the "crysis" - do you have any sign of life when you turn the key?? Neutral light, anything??? Before we start virtually dissecting your bike and flooding you with useless advices... Ground strap - runs battery minus to the engine. Black wire, rear of the engine, right hand side, can't remember now. Anybody has a picture? |
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Title: Re: savage wont turn on.. please read. Post by Yonuh Adisi FSO on 04/14/11 at 13:27:22 2F2B2B2129273B3A26420 wrote:
Yes, that's the one I was referring to. Also check to make sure there isn't any dirt or anything that is clogging up (for lack of a better term) the connection. |
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Title: Re: savage wont turn on.. please read. Post by miickeyxd on 04/14/11 at 13:32:48 5D584A5A51390 wrote:
nope no sign of life, battery is brand new. speedo didnt even light up nothing. so something in the process when i took out the airbox, chain guard or gas tank i forgot to ground a wire or connect a plug. |
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Title: Re: savage wont turn on.. please read. Post by miickeyxd on 04/14/11 at 13:34:12 4A7C7D667B52777A607A130 wrote:
Yes, that's the one I was referring to. Also check to make sure there isn't any dirt or anything that is clogging up (for lack of a better term) the connection.[/quote] alright ill unplug it and see if there any residue inside the plugs. |
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Title: Re: savage wont turn on.. please read. Post by verslagen1 on 04/14/11 at 16:37:26 It sounds like you should know this but just to be sure... the ig switch has 3 positions, off, run, park, in that order. in the park position, bike won't run and only the tail light works. safety's, clutch, kickstand, neutral. won't start w/o clutch pulled in with kickstand down, and in gear, won't start. lights will light though With key on, lights will light, tank, headlight and signals. If it's a connector under the tank or the handlebar controls, lights may not light, but tail light should be on. If it's not on, check the ig switch connectors. And the battery and the ground. it's on the engine by the oil level window. |
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Title: Re: savage wont turn on.. please read. Post by miickeyxd on 04/14/11 at 16:53:03 382B3C3D222F292B207F4E0 wrote:
yes, even witht he "on" or "park" switch the taillights, headlights, signals or brake lights dont come on. im going to check the ig connections. |
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Title: Re: savage wont turn on.. please read. Post by Yonuh Adisi FSO on 04/14/11 at 17:10:00 Check for frayed wires that could be touching metal as well. |
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Title: Re: savage wont turn on.. please read. Post by charley on 04/14/11 at 20:53:56 Do you have a test light ? Disconnect hot side of Battery. place clip side of tester on hot side of Battery. then take the other side of tester and ground to bike frame . did your light come on ? No check the ground side of battery to frame you have no connection . Yes then you go foward and start checking switches ... I will watch this post and help if I can |
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Title: Re: savage wont turn on.. please read. Post by miickeyxd on 04/14/11 at 22:29:35 ok heres the update. i came home from work grab my key and switched it to "on" and it started right up? now im getting mad cause sometimes it starts up perfectly and sometimes it wont even light up when i turn the key.. honestly very weird. starting to think it wants to be perfectly fine at night then the day time.. ill see that happens in the morning. thanks everyone i really do appreciate all the support i got, instead of getting replies like "use the search botton" ill post pictures after i install my 12" apes. can someone really clarify that putting 12" apes you dont need longer cables? i read numerous post/threads saying you can and you cant. i need a solid yes or no. thanks :D |
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Title: Re: savage wont turn on.. please read. Post by Routy on 04/15/11 at 08:10:20 666D647769607C050 wrote:
You need a 12v test lite ! Heres just another way,...... Connect the clip to a clean spot on the frame stick the pos terminal on the battery (you better have lite) stick the positive cable anywhere on down the line before the 1st plug (you better have lite) Keep sticking on down the line on to the ign sw. (you better have lite) It sounds like you're not getting juice even to the ign sw ! |
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Title: Re: savage wont turn on.. please read. Post by runwyrlph on 04/15/11 at 08:36:46 there's a green connector plug under the seat that has given me problems in the past. I don't remember if the lights, etc. were on or not , but it would sometimes start, sometimes not until i found the plug was loose |
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Title: Re: savage wont turn on.. please read. Post by Boofer on 04/15/11 at 16:44:04 This happened to me with a Puch 175 Enduro and a Kawasaki H1 500. I would take the seat off, crank it and tap on the ignition switch and wiggle all the wires you can see. Both times the insulation on the wires were about the only thing holding the wire to the terminal. Do this gently, of course, and your problem may cause the bike to go dead. AND I agree with the others about what to check. Now it's time to go rogue and hit it with a hammer. :D |
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Title: Re: savage wont turn on.. please read. Post by Boofer on 04/15/11 at 16:51:22 One more thing. It could be the kill switch. I never use mine, but I ocassionally flip it off and on a few times in case it corrodes and acts up. Good luck. |
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Title: Re: savage wont turn on.. please read. Post by verslagen1 on 04/15/11 at 17:37:35 Following the bouncing ball... 1st connection to the battery is the fuse box! It should be hot all the time. Since your lights don't light (sometimes) we'll follow that circuit. 2nd hot spot is the ig switch r/b. I think that red w/a black stripe. when switched on, the orange is hot. Orange goes around and around and comes out the speedo light. Out the other end of the battery is ground. the ground is connected to a bolt behind the oil level window. All connections should be tight and clean. Now unless your dog comes over and pisses on your bike every night just before you get home, I got no explanation why it lights up at night and not in the daylight. |
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Title: Re: savage wont turn on.. please read. Post by T Mack 1 - FSO on 04/16/11 at 09:18:56 So.... you did work on it then this issue started. Since you have no power, my semi-educated guess would be that the ignition switch plug got nudged too much and is loose. Or, the Ign switch is going bad. What I would do it follow the wires coming out of the ign switch and reseat every connector up to the battery. |
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