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Message started by dystormy79a on 04/12/11 at 20:44:22

Title: new menber bobber build
Post by dystormy79a on 04/12/11 at 20:44:22

first of all im new here and i have to say there is some great info on here i like it. also i posted this post in the wrong place sorry got it right now lol

my question is i bought a stock 1986 savage. i am going to make a bobber out of it. but i have a question on ape hangers. i am wanting to order the bar soon but i really don't know what size i should go with. i have also not really found where i can get longer cables for it. i have not started my project yet but i have ordered alot of the parts i am going to be using on it. i have made the pan for my seat just have to cover it. i have made like 3 diff pairs of foward controlls for it just have to pick out the ones i like the best. i have also made my struts for it going to put them on this week hopfully.
i am also looking for ideas on the rear fender what i should use or what other people have used.
im the type i like to make everything that i can i have a plasma table and every welder and torch i need. (at my work)

any help will be greatly appreciated
i will post pics of my progress as i go ohh this will be my first bike as well. well legal one lol

Title: Re: Savage cable extensions for ape hangers
Post by LANCER on 04/13/11 at 04:36:52

657872756E736C78363860010 wrote:

send me a pm and I will give you the info on getting longer throttle and clutch cables and brake lines to match your needs. They are special order and will cost you a few extra bucks but are excellent quality from Barnett.

Title: Re: Savage cable extensions for ape hangers
Post by MotoBuddha on 04/13/11 at 04:44:42

You can also get them from MotionPro.

http://www.motionpro.com/motorcycle/custom/

Title: Re: Savage cable extensions for ape hangers
Post by Smokestack on 04/14/11 at 15:15:31

As for fenders, if you have a motorcycle wrecker or salvage yard nearby, try looking at the front fenders off some of the older Japanese bikes, preferably of larger displacement. The bigger old bikes had some pretty fat front tires, so the fenders fit well on the back of smaller bikes with a little work. You'll have to fab up some struts, or buy a raw strut kit, as they're gonna need some support. I hooked mine off the lower shock bolts and bolted it to the swingarm, so it'll move with the suspension while still hugging the tire pretty close. Lowbrow Customs sell a pretty sweet fender strut kit if you wanna go that route.

I picked up 2 front fenders off the old Yamaha Magna's for 30 bux and they fit nicely after some elbow grease. They're off at blasting right now, but I'll try to post some pics when I get 'em back.

Title: Re: Savage cable extensions for ape hangers
Post by dystormy79a on 04/15/11 at 00:43:16

thanks for the info i was talking to a guy yesterday about my ideas and he told me to go look at northern tool at thier trailer fenders. i looked them up on the net and seen one i think im going to get. plus its like 13.00 :) i think it will work great at least i hope so.

Title: Re: Savage cable extensions for ape hangers
Post by dystormy79a on 04/15/11 at 00:49:12

well i made my seat pan when i had some down time at work. i made it out of 1/8" stainless. and to my suprise i ordered some seat springs and i got them in the mail 2 days later. :) so i hope to get the seat covered this weekend and maybe ill get to cut the old rear fender/seat mounts off and fab sdomenew ones to get my solo spring seat on there. i also made some temporary struts to see how i am going to like having no shocks. not to bad but im sure i will get better when i get my new seat on. hopfully ill get to post pic's soon :)

Title: Re: new member bobber build
Post by dystormy79a on 04/28/11 at 00:24:34

i got my tail light and blinkers in the mail the other day. went to northern tool and bought a trailer fender. getting closer to tearing my bike down. needing ideas on how to cut the tins im not real sure how i want them. i like the old school look. i have designed my sissy bar its going to be around 20 to 24" tall. cant wait. getting excited on the rebuild.

Title: Re: new menber bobber build
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/28/11 at 02:16:37

Sounds like the kinda project that otta have a few pics posted,, dont it?

Title: Re: new menber bobber build
Post by dystormy79a on 05/10/11 at 23:54:48

Finally getting around to posting some pics of my bike.
here is my stock as i got it bike. and yes that is a 2" copper exaust pipe lol oh did i mention i got it for 600.00 :)

http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/231072_1646310050055_1606022185_1247277_2599657_n.jpg

Title: Re: new menber bobber build
Post by dystormy79a on 05/11/11 at 00:22:57

first mod was the seat spacer made it alot more comfortable ride. as you can see in the background i have a plasma table and can cut anything anyone needs :) (for a small fee of course)
http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/231007_1646311650095_1606022185_1247285_5566058_n.jpg

And i got the idea to make a spring seat for it. used 1/8" stainless
http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/230432_1646310610069_1606022185_1247279_1257784_n.jpg

Punched 1/8" holes to attach the leather with pop rivets.
http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/225067_1646310730072_1606022185_1247280_8174238_n.jpg

sorry for the quality i still have a pos cell phone
http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/221897_1646310930077_1606022185_1247281_6355612_n.jpg

http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/227922_1646311330087_1606022185_1247283_2893164_n.jpg

Blue sleeping pad from wallyworld
http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/225067_1646311810099_1606022185_1247286_6421549_n.jpg

Carpet padding for a little more comfort. don't know if im going to keep it this way or do something diff.
http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/230847_1646312730122_1606022185_1247289_161809_n.jpg

My lights and fender
http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/226602_1646313770148_1606022185_1247291_857838_n.jpg

The tail light has my rear signals and break lights together.
http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/223357_1646314050155_1606022185_1247293_5382147_n.jpg

one of the sissy bars i have made trying diff looks. of course its not done here. i can make them if any one is interested. i can make pretty much any look you like.
http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/225802_1646314570168_1606022185_1247295_5804172_n.jpg

this will be the one i will be using on mine.
http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/224177_1646314690171_1606022185_1247296_385172_n.jpg

http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/223312_1646314770173_1606022185_1247297_6715610_n.jpg

Break light mounting plate. i don't know if im going to leave it this way or change it. guess ill try it and see.
http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/231137_1646315330187_1606022185_1247301_1559287_n.jpg

And the begining of the transformation.
http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/229562_1646315530192_1606022185_1247302_5459513_n.jpg

http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/229417_1646315930202_1606022185_1247303_3452642_n.jpg

http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/228467_1646316050205_1606022185_1247304_2768173_n.jpg

And the basic mock up of what it will look like. i have made some temp struts to see how low i can take it. i will be making some diff ones a little diff with some cuts and designs in them. i also can make these or some of pretty much any design you can come up with. just need how much drop you want (if any) and the design.
http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/230497_1646316290211_1606022185_1247305_364921_n.jpg

http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/230497_1646316290211_1606022185_1247305_364921_n.jpg

I will be cutting the seat/fender tabs off and making new a mount for my spring seat.
http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/225127_1646316610219_1606022185_1247307_114329_n.jpg

Thats pretty much as far as i have got so far. will be working on it all weekend. i don't like not having it to ride lol

Title: Re: new menber bobber build
Post by danDmen on 05/11/11 at 07:37:02

hey men that is my bike ....ok ...ok maybe not ...but i have the same color 1986 savage the one whit the buckhorn handle-bars i buy the 10' z bars and i did not have to change any cables ...and they look and fell very very good ....and i change the muffler for a strait pipe ...and men what a difference.....your savage is looking very good ...that is a nice seat you made for it .....please made this treat as detailed as possible ...i will be following very close how your new handle bars and back fender are going

have a very nice day .....and good luck whit you savage ....:):)

Title: Re: new menber bobber build
Post by kevinphan on 05/11/11 at 10:21:04

Hmm, how much would it cost for a custom sissy bar that isn't super intricate?

Title: Re: new menber bobber build
Post by NameNotInUse on 05/11/11 at 11:54:35

Wow that is looking great. I love the tail light and your sissy bar is awesome. Great work.

Title: Re: new menber bobber build
Post by dystormy79a on 05/11/11 at 13:39:17

525C4F505749515857390 wrote:

Hmm, how much would it cost for a custom sissy bar that isn't super intricate?

prob like 50.00 plus shipping.

Title: Re: new menber bobber build
Post by dystormy79a on 05/11/11 at 14:05:07

686D62486169620C0 wrote:

i buy the 10' z bars and i did not have to change any cables ...and they look and fell very very good

what is the 10' z bars? do you have a pic?

Title: Re: new menber bobber build
Post by Savage_Amusement on 05/11/11 at 16:00:17

Awesome start! I might have to take you up on this sissy bar offer. I also have the same fender you have. I want to figure out a way to make the fender float with the rear fender and be able to hold a person from time to time. If you have any ideas on how I could maybe do that it would be a great deal of help.

Welcome to the site and I'm looking forward to what all you come up with!

Title: Re: new menber bobber build
Post by WD on 05/11/11 at 19:11:11

Floating fender is easy. All you need is a sidemount headlight bracket from Jammer's the width of your fender. Drill the fender front holes oversize, add a collared bronze bushing from the hardware store. Buy or make a couple 3/16" holed tabs, weld them to your swingarm. Add struts from the rear of the fender to the tabs. Headlight bracket bolts under the stock seat mounting rails.

Bars are 1", buy non-dimpled.

Here is a Savage with apes... MY Savage with apes.
http://ravenscroftart.net/watchtower/pokeydone1.jpg

Seat is a stock pan with 2 layers of blue camping pad and waterbuffalo leather. Made the seat 10 years ago. Blue ensolite is all you need. HD and Honda cables, generic modular braided stainless brake hose.

Rear fender does not float on mine, I raised the rear via 800 Intruder shocks. Rear of fender is bracketed to fishtail pipe end.

I'm 6'2.5" 235 pounds. My Savage fits me perfectly.

Title: Re: new menber bobber build
Post by dystormy79a on 05/14/11 at 15:09:40

what kind of bags do you have on there ill be looking for a small set like that for my bike after i get done with it.

7162260 wrote:

Title: Re: new menber bobber build
Post by WD on 05/14/11 at 15:51:33

Small Saddleman Drifter or Desperado. Can't remember off hand which I have, only difference is the studs. Not as small as they look. They don't fit stock length fenders. And they will each hold about 15 cans of beer. Maybe more, been awhile since they were more than decoration.

Title: Re: new menber bobber build
Post by dystormy79a on 05/15/11 at 21:59:40

i have to say i love that green car in the back ground. i would like to have one like it lol

7467230 wrote:

Title: Re: new menber bobber build
Post by WD on 05/16/11 at 05:44:25

1954 Ford Squire. The panel version was called a Thames. The trunk model sedan was called a Popular. Ford of England.

You can drive it down a standard urban sidewalk. Lots of legroom, it's only a 4 cylinder. That is my stepson's car, former Hollywood prop car. Powered by a hopped up 1.4L Datsun (with one year only clutch/trans combo) with head off a 1.2L fwd.

Hard to work on, parts are expensive.

If you watch Austin Powers part 2 (whatever it was called) keep a sharp eye in the background. Car was in it. 8-)

Title: Re: new menber bobber build
Post by dystormy79a on 05/24/11 at 02:37:40

thats awsome :) we had one of the first mini's made if i remember right it was a 1959 or a 1960. i would love to have it back but i woud like to have a car like yours because its just something you don't see here in the states

oh and your car would prob bring like 30-60,000.00usd here if it was in perfect shape :o

Title: Re: new menber bobber build
Post by dystormy79a on 05/30/11 at 22:14:56

finally got around to putting my rear fender, tail light and blinkers on. still not done with it. but is looks pretty good. still have to make the mounts for my sissy bar to attach to my fender but i can almost stand on it the way it is. i know after i mount the sissy bar i will be able to. i will be able to put a pass seat on there if i wanted to. (although i won't) ;) i am hopping to get to cutting my frame so i can mount my new spring seat on there. i went on a long ride today and my a$$ is killing me. so that will make me hurry up on my seat. my spring tensioner is starting to get louder so i am going to have to do the mod for extending it sooner than later.

http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/252877_1678386371943_1606022185_1285744_624882_n.jpg

i also made a new tail pipe for it. i made a baffel to try to change the tone of it. going to try a couple of types to get it to sound the way i want it. it will be black after i get it the way i want it. i had my work coar it so ut wouldn't rust.
http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/249696_1678385411919_1606022185_1285743_2971341_n.jpg

as you can see i also got my blinkers and tail light and liscense plate bracket mounted. im not real sure i like the tail light yet. i might end up changing it. oh and i bought a gps mount and a power supply for my bike too. now when i get my new tank and do the chain conversion i will still have a speedo works great ordered it off ebay for like 20.00. just so you know don't put the wires on backwards because it will fry the controll board on the charger. needless to say i will be ordering some chips to fix my mistake........
http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/250369_1681142160836_1606022185_1290127_5515293_n.jpg

Title: Re: new menber bobber build
Post by dystormy79a on 05/30/11 at 23:59:19

oh and see the spot yes thats oil.........

http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/246729_1681159481269_1606022185_1290135_639430_n.jpg

Title: Re: new menber bobber build
Post by WD on 05/31/11 at 15:39:03

That pic with Pokey and Gumby (Savage and Ford) was taken at my old place in Buckley Washington. Car is still in Puyallup Washington.

I live less than an hour north of Memphis. Yep, Tennessee, not the original Memphis (Egypt, been there, they can keep it). .

People keep telling me my old beaters are worth real money here. Somehow I doubt my 72 Super beetle is really worth $6K, it's a dust covered hunk of junk taking up space in the barn. I raise fishing worms under my 1949 Dodge truck, my 69 Dodge truck just hauls brush now.

Book value on a car like gumby is only a couple grand. Was sold new at the Ford dealership in Ashville NC. Only a few thousand were imported between 53 and 58, but they still aren't worth squat stock. An 8hp flathead 4 cylinder and a 3 spd is pretty much useless.

Title: Re: new menber bobber build
Post by MrBrownTX on 06/21/11 at 08:38:29

I like what youhave going here. Did you ever get some apes on it? Which did you go with? And what did you decide on the cables?

Title: Re: new menber bobber build
Post by skeebo on 06/21/11 at 11:25:24

Diggin the build storm....anxious to see the final seat config. When I bought my bike the previous owner had already hacked the rear frame horns so I was kinda in a box, I decided to make my own seat and mod the stock fender.
http://a4.l3-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/122/bfe0ddffb3d84cf0befff6691ef4525d/l.jpg
Once I make up my mind on the color I'll fill the holes and weld the tabs to the fender so no hardware is visible.
http://a2.l3-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/125/7a9130078f4a4a368030e0e9a68aaa39/l.jpg

Title: Re: new menber bobber build
Post by verslagen1 on 06/21/11 at 11:33:14

That's pretty smart looking skeebo

Title: Re: new menber bobber build
Post by Morgii on 06/21/11 at 12:50:14

1506420 wrote:

72 superbeetle eh... I gots one of those too... same year even! Mines a Wolfsburg Ed. Convertible tho... nice little toys eh? I'm currently selling mine tho, time to let someone else have some fun :D If anybody's interested.... ;D

Title: Re: new menber bobber build/ bike dies........
Post by dystormy79a on 06/21/11 at 14:33:44

Well i was on my way home from work this morning and i started loosing power then it shut off........ My motor gave out......... When i coasted to the side of the road. i tried to start it and it sounds like the bearings are locking up. it will still turn but if i keep trying i know it wont.

so right at the start of riding season my bike dies.........

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1719192592073&set=a.1214261929122.114486.1606022185&type=1

Title: Re: new menber bobber build
Post by dystormy79a on 06/21/11 at 14:37:32

504F5F4F524A5349453D0 wrote:

I like what youhave going here. Did you ever get some apes on it? Which did you go with? And what did you decide on the cables?

i haven't had time to work on getting them on there. I guess they are C Town Customs (i made them ;) ) and i haven't figured out about the cables either.

guess it got moved down the list of things to do first lol

Title: Re: new menber bobber build
Post by dystormy79a on 06/21/11 at 14:41:03

[quote author=524A4444434E210 link=1302666262/15#26 date=1308680724]Diggin the build storm....anxious to see the final seat config. When I bought my bike the previous owner had already hacked the rear frame horns so I was kinda in a box, I decided to make my own seat and mod the stock fender.
http://a4.l3-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/122/bfe0ddffb3d84cf0befff6691ef4525d/l.jpg

i like the look so far. i am going to cut the tabs off and basically weld a piece of 1/4" flat bar on it to hold my spring mounts while i have my bike tore down fixing the motor i plan on doing all the cutting on it.