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Message started by voodoo on 04/11/11 at 09:08:08

Title: Latest Custom by Voodoo Vintage for Austin Singer
Post by voodoo on 04/11/11 at 09:08:08

Cuttin' everyone in on the latest custom Savage rigid being fabricated for Austin Singer out of California.

Austin will be the first to test-ride the prototype mono-shock solo seat configuration we've been working on.

Attached are some pics...

http://www.voodoovintage.com/catalog/austin (3).png

http://www.voodoovintage.com/catalog/austin (1).jpg

http://www.voodoovintage.com/catalog/austin (2).jpg

http://www.voodoovintage.com/catalog/austin.jpg

http://www.voodoovintage.com/catalog/austin (4).jpg

http://www.voodoovintage.com/catalog/austin (5).jpg

http://www.voodoovintage.com/catalog/austin (6).jpg

http://www.voodoovintage.com/catalog/austin (7).jpg

Sorry for the large images!!!

Title: Re: Latest Custom by Voodoo Vintage for Austin Sin
Post by Edgar on 04/11/11 at 16:48:14

love it! been following it on facebook

Title: Re: Latest Custom by Voodoo Vintage for Austin Sin
Post by MotoBuddha on 04/11/11 at 16:55:07

Ah, I read it wrong. I thought it was going to be a monoshock frame, not a monoshock seat on a rigid.

But it looks like a very cool project anyway.

Title: Re: Latest Custom by Voodoo Vintage for Austin Sin
Post by dasch on 04/12/11 at 03:24:06

Like like and I like!!!!! Love the same size rims on front and rear!

Title: Re: Latest Custom by Voodoo Vintage for Austin Sin
Post by Savage_Amusement on 04/12/11 at 16:36:17

I'm digging the Frames. I "liked" you on FB so I could follow things more. Do you have an Email I have a few questions I'd like to ask you, thanks.

Title: Re: Latest Custom by Voodoo Vintage for Austin Sin
Post by engineer on 04/12/11 at 18:00:11

Nice drawing, what CAD program do you use?

Title: Re: Latest Custom by Voodoo Vintage for Austin Sin
Post by Edgar on 04/12/11 at 19:21:00


597568747F68696E75687F292A2A2A1A0 wrote:
I'm digging the Frames. I "liked" you on FB so I could follow things more. Do you have an Email I have a few questions I'd like to ask you, thanks.


He always responds to my PMs through here

Title: Re: Latest Custom by Voodoo Vintage for Austin Sin
Post by MotoBuddha on 04/16/11 at 18:47:34

Looking at the drawings again... Are you not going to use a cylinder head-to-frame bracket?

Title: Re: Latest Custom by Voodoo Vintage for Austin Sin
Post by voodoo on 04/20/11 at 06:28:30


0B273A262D3A3B3C273A2D7B787878480 wrote:
I'm digging the Frames. I "liked" you on FB so I could follow things more. Do you have an Email I have a few questions I'd like to ask you, thanks.

Sure do... you can email me here at: david@voodoovintage.com

Title: Re: Latest Custom by Voodoo Vintage for Austin Sin
Post by voodoo on 04/20/11 at 06:29:41


797B707B727B776D1E0 wrote:
Nice drawing, what CAD program do you use?

Thank you for the comments!  Right now I'm using AutoCAD and Rhino 3-d as engineering platforms.  I sometimes render the drawings in Cinema4D though...

Title: Re: Latest Custom by Voodoo Vintage for Austin Sin
Post by voodoo on 04/20/11 at 06:32:02


0D2F342F023524242821400 wrote:
Looking at the drawings again... Are you not going to use a cylinder head-to-frame bracket?

The last four Savages I've fabricated did NOT have the head brackets installed.  Nor the de-comp!  (I'm sure I'll get some replies on THAT one!!!  :) )

Title: Re: Latest Custom by Voodoo Vintage for Austin Sin
Post by voodoo on 04/20/11 at 06:42:19

Thought I'd throw in some updated photos of the mono-shock seat pan configuration...

Here is the seat pan freshly being CNC cut from 10ga steel...
http://www.voodoovintage.com/catalog/IMG_7524.jpg

Measurements down the middle...
http://www.voodoovintage.com/catalog/IMG_7525.jpg

Fastened to the table and ready to bend...
http://www.voodoovintage.com/catalog/IMG_7526.jpg

Bending on marks...
http://www.voodoovintage.com/catalog/IMG_7527.jpg

Verifying the curvature fit...
http://www.voodoovintage.com/catalog/IMG_7528.jpg

Welded and ready to go...
http://www.voodoovintage.com/catalog/IMG_7534.jpg

Kind of looks good all by itself!
http://www.voodoovintage.com/catalog/IMG_7536.jpg

With the LaRosa custom seat installed...
http://www.voodoovintage.com/catalog/IMG_7540.jpg


Title: Re: Latest Custom by Voodoo Vintage for Austin Sin
Post by BAM4k on 04/20/11 at 07:25:31

This is by far one of the coolest things I've seen on this site!  I have been all over the internets and there are custom hard tail frames available for nearly every bike (that I don't own or like) and now you guys come along and are offering a rigid frame for the savage!  Can't wait till I talk the wife into letting me get my hands on one of these.  Keep up the good work.  

Title: Re: Latest Custom by Voodoo Vintage for Austin Sin
Post by MotoBuddha on 04/20/11 at 08:58:29

What's the rough cost of a frame like this?

Title: Re: Latest Custom by Voodoo Vintage for Austin Sin
Post by engineer on 04/20/11 at 13:19:20

I like the welding fixture, looks like an in house fabrication, simple and efficient.  It gets the rear axle and the steering axis in alignment.  Are those tapered cones inserted into the steering head to keep it secure and centered?  I noticed there is no adjustment for the width of the lower frame.  Do you build everything the same width, use different fixtures, or use spacers to make narrower frames?  I am really enjoying this project, thanks for the pictures.

I am thinking of cutting the steering neck on my S40 and decreasing the rake angle to about 28 degrees.  Since it would be a "one off" job I wouldn't want to build a fixture to do it.  I am looking for ideas on how to keep the steering head aligned in the vertical plane of the frame.  I was thinking of clamping the frame to a pallet or something, drawing some centerlines and using a plumb bob.

Title: Re: Latest Custom by Voodoo Vintage for Austin Sin
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/20/11 at 16:43:18

I bent my 10 speed & used steel bars to get it right. One down thru the steering head & one down the seat tube. Lined them up,,
A vertical installed between the rear frame members, like on a tube that the axle runs thru would give you a reference to line the steering head up on. Just get the pipes in & know youve got them lined up before any cutting starts. You can use the rod to bring the head in like you want it & know youre keeping the steering head straight up & down at the same time. Just hafta clamp the frame down, so you can crank on the steering head after youve made the cut & heated the top bar, May need to cut those braces off the sides of the frame u there & weld them back on,

Title: Re: Latest Custom by Voodoo Vintage for Austin Sin
Post by saltwaterjoy on 04/21/11 at 08:56:34

I've been reading the thread here and I gotta say I'm really digging the build. Looks like it will be a sweet little bike when you're done. Being as it's a hardtail, it reminded me of an article I saw recently from an area newspaper here on the east coast of Canada. I was perusing an online classified ad site looking for bikes for sale and saw this:
http://dailygleaner.canadaeast.com/front/article/1394161

I know this may not be the right category to be posting this in but I think it's quite appropriate giving we're talking about hardtails. I apologize to the administrators in advance if I'm doing something I'm not supposed to be.
It's a rather eye-opening read, I think. It's just another obstacle in what's quickly becoming an all out war on motorcycles in this part of the world. In the article, the gentleman has owned, fabricated and operated several hardtail bikes for several years with not so much as a bat-of-an-eyelash by the provincial DMV. Now, all of a sudden, rigid framed bikes are not recognized and are automatically deemed unsafe by the province. All this is based on the personal opinion of one supposedly qualified engineer that he called from a list supplied by the province. The engineer didn't even come and take a look at the darned bike!! He just automatically labelled it as "unsafe" because it was a hardtail. Now, I'm not an engineer/physicist but I think a basic in-person inspection or some sort of testing would be common practice before labelling something as "unsafe".  I don't even own a bike yet and this story has got me so pissed off I could spit sparks and crap lightening. Normally, legislation is put in place to protect the rider and other users of the roadways, keeping people alive and insurance premiums lower than what they could be, for the most part. But I personally think this is going way too far. This is becoming a very disturbing trend here in Canada, with several provinces bringing in after market exhaust laws, (I won't open THAT can of worms here) and generally making it more and more restrictive to own/operate a motorcycle, all in the name of safety, supposedly!? I read a cycle mag article recently in which a couple were touring across the east of Canada on their motorcycle, (I forget the make/model). They live in Ontario and were travelling east through Quebec when they were pulled over by the local highway patrol. The cop explained that since their bike's exhaust was not stock, but aftermarket, they were breaking a new provincial law and after jamming a stick down their exhaust to feel for baffles, (which would be enough to piss me off right there), he proceeded to give them a ticket for over $200 for breaking this law. They weren't staying in the province, just passing through. The best part was apparently, their "illegal" aftermarket exhaust was actually quieter than the stock one!! And not 10 minutes after they were pulled over, they spotted the same cop ticketing another out-of-province rider for the same infraction. Just proves it is a total cash grab. So, now the couple had to cut their vacation short and return home, otherwise risk possibly getting another violation later on down the road. Like I said, normally, I agree with the traffic laws, for the most part. I think they were truly devised with safety in mind and I'm all for that. But now it's getting way out of hand. I'm not sure how stringent the laws are in other parts of Canada or the States, (or the rest of the world. How far does this site reach, anyhow?), but if you're planning on making a trip to the east coast of Canada, do your homework.
BTW, the gentleman in the article above has started a lobby to petition the gov't and has a facebook page called "Rigid Riders". Here is his original classified ad with contact info if anyone is interested:
http://newbrunswick.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehicles-motorcycles-street-cruisers-choppers-BAN-ON-HARD-TAIL-RIGID-MOTORCYCLES-W0QQAdIdZ271589043

Title: Re: Latest Custom by Voodoo Vintage for Austin Sin
Post by voodoo on 04/21/11 at 20:32:37


0F0C0079264D0 wrote:
This is by far one of the coolest things I've seen on this site!  I have been all over the internets and there are custom hard tail frames available for nearly every bike (that I don't own or like) and now you guys come along and are offering a rigid frame for the savage!  Can't wait till I talk the wife into letting me get my hands on one of these.  Keep up the good work.  

If it helps to convince her... tell her it's a ONE-SEATER so no hot chicks will be asking for rides!!!   ;)

Title: Re: Latest Custom by Voodoo Vintage for Austin Sin
Post by voodoo on 04/21/11 at 20:35:51


0A283328053223232F26470 wrote:
What's the rough cost of a frame like this?

The frame information is over on my website: http://www.voodoovintage.com

They run about $725 plus shipping.

Title: Re: Latest Custom by Voodoo Vintage for Austin Sin
Post by voodoo on 04/21/11 at 20:43:40


33313A3138313D27540 wrote:
I like the welding fixture, looks like an in house fabrication, simple and efficient.  It gets the rear axle and the steering axis in alignment.  Are those tapered cones inserted into the steering head to keep it secure and centered?  I noticed there is no adjustment for the width of the lower frame.  Do you build everything the same width, use different fixtures, or use spacers to make narrower frames?  I am really enjoying this project, thanks for the pictures.

I am thinking of cutting the steering neck on my S40 and decreasing the rake angle to about 28 degrees.  Since it would be a "one off" job I wouldn't want to build a fixture to do it.  I am looking for ideas on how to keep the steering head aligned in the vertical plane of the frame.  I was thinking of clamping the frame to a pallet or something, drawing some centerlines and using a plumb bob.


Thank you for the comments...

I have different cradles for different frame designs, but most of the Savage frames use this particular width.

The best way to make sure your neck tube is in alignment:  I would secure your frame to a wood jig (or plywood).  Leave the front forks installed with the wheel removed.  Mark the center line of the axle onto the plywood.  When re-welding your neck tube, make sure your axle center line is still in place.  Tack top and bottom of the tube and re-check for alignment.  Tack the sides of the tube and re-check again!  Tack four more times between your first four tacks, and yep... re-check again!  Once you have about eight tacks, you should be able to weld with little to no warp.  I would lay about an inch of bead on each side and alternate until you're complete.

Title: Re: Latest Custom by Voodoo Vintage for Austin Sin
Post by voodoo on 04/21/11 at 20:46:31


5D534A5A51504C5A0E0D0C3F0 wrote:
I've been reading the thread here and I gotta say I'm really digging the build. Looks like it will be a sweet little bike when you're done. Being as it's a hardtail, it reminded me of an article I saw recently from an area newspaper here on the east coast of Canada. I was perusing an online classified ad site looking for bikes for sale and saw this:
http://dailygleaner.canadaeast.com/front/article/1394161

I know this may not be the right category to be posting this in but I think it's quite appropriate giving we're talking about hardtails. I apologize to the administrators in advance if I'm doing something I'm not supposed to be.
It's a rather eye-opening read, I think. It's just another obstacle in what's quickly becoming an all out war on motorcycles in this part of the world. In the article, the gentleman has owned, fabricated and operated several hardtail bikes for several years with not so much as a bat-of-an-eyelash by the provincial DMV. Now, all of a sudden, rigid framed bikes are not recognized and are automatically deemed unsafe by the province. All this is based on the personal opinion of one supposedly qualified engineer that he called from a list supplied by the province. The engineer didn't even come and take a look at the darned bike!! He just automatically labelled it as "unsafe" because it was a hardtail. Now, I'm not an engineer/physicist but I think a basic in-person inspection or some sort of testing would be common practice before labelling something as "unsafe".  I don't even own a bike yet and this story has got me so pissed off I could spit sparks and crap lightening. Normally, legislation is put in place to protect the rider and other users of the roadways, keeping people alive and insurance premiums lower than what they could be, for the most part. But I personally think this is going way too far. This is becoming a very disturbing trend here in Canada, with several provinces bringing in after market exhaust laws, (I won't open THAT can of worms here) and generally making it more and more restrictive to own/operate a motorcycle, all in the name of safety, supposedly!? I read a cycle mag article recently in which a couple were touring across the east of Canada on their motorcycle, (I forget the make/model). They live in Ontario and were travelling east through Quebec when they were pulled over by the local highway patrol. The cop explained that since their bike's exhaust was not stock, but aftermarket, they were breaking a new provincial law and after jamming a stick down their exhaust to feel for baffles, (which would be enough to piss me off right there), he proceeded to give them a ticket for over $200 for breaking this law. They weren't staying in the province, just passing through. The best part was apparently, their "illegal" aftermarket exhaust was actually quieter than the stock one!! And not 10 minutes after they were pulled over, they spotted the same cop ticketing another out-of-province rider for the same infraction. Just proves it is a total cash grab. So, now the couple had to cut their vacation short and return home, otherwise risk possibly getting another violation later on down the road. Like I said, normally, I agree with the traffic laws, for the most part. I think they were truly devised with safety in mind and I'm all for that. But now it's getting way out of hand. I'm not sure how stringent the laws are in other parts of Canada or the States, (or the rest of the world. How far does this site reach, anyhow?), but if you're planning on making a trip to the east coast of Canada, do your homework.
BTW, the gentleman in the article above has started a lobby to petition the gov't and has a facebook page called "Rigid Riders". Here is his original classified ad with contact info if anyone is interested:
http://newbrunswick.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehicles-motorcycles-street-cruisers-choppers-BAN-ON-HARD-TAIL-RIGID-MOTORCYCLES-W0QQAdIdZ271589043

WOW... And I thought OUR gov was a little screwy!!!   :-?

Title: Re: Latest Custom by Voodoo Vintage for Austin Sin
Post by DangMan on 04/23/11 at 02:59:14

Omg look awsome :)

Title: Re: Latest Custom by Voodoo Vintage for Austin Sin
Post by voodoo on 05/18/11 at 17:54:51

Thanks Dang!  More photos are coming!!!


0E2B242D072B244A0 wrote:
Omg look awsome :)


Title: Re: Latest Custom by Voodoo Vintage for Austin Sin
Post by B1-66er on 05/19/11 at 03:57:24

Do they have VINs stamped in? I'm just wondering how you'd go about registering one of then.

Title: Re: Latest Custom by Voodoo Vintage for Austin Sin
Post by voodoo on 05/20/11 at 17:46:19


01726E75752631430 wrote:
Do they have VINs stamped in? I'm just wondering how you'd go about registering one of then.


That's why I use your ORIGINAL neck tube!  If the bike was already registered, then you are on easy street!!!

If you need a blank neck tube with a Manufacturer's Statement of Origin (MSO), then we issue those as well.  You would have to check with your state on regulations, but most states only require a bill of sale for the engine (with serial numbers included) and an MSO.

Your state's DMV will then issue a blue-title (with VIN) that you have to have stamped into the neck tube.  Then you go register with your county tax office and get it inspected.  Whalla!  A month later you have a fully registered and legal motorcycle.

Or... you could just saw-off your neck tube and send it to me!...  ;)

Title: Re: Latest Custom by Voodoo Vintage for Austin Sin
Post by voodoo on 06/04/11 at 19:07:03

Thought I would post this one as well...

Voodoo Vintage is developing a new "fatty" springer front end for our custom frames.

The front fork is 1" DOM (.120 wall) and the rear fork is 1-1/8" DOM (.125 wall).

It sports an 85 lb. mono shock which will be partially hidden with a traditional side-mount headlight bracket.

It's fitted with a 1" stem but can be adapted to the Savage (or any other bike with a 7" stem) by using adapter bearings available from Bike Bandit.

I'm just waiting on the parts to be prototyped from a local machine shop here in Austin.

http://www.voodoovintage.com/catalog/springer_01.png

Title: Re: Latest Custom by Voodoo Vintage for Austin Sin
Post by bluesrockdoc on 06/06/11 at 11:15:27

I will SO need one of those.  I hate you.    :)

Title: Re: Latest Custom by Voodoo Vintage for Austin Sin
Post by voodoo on 06/06/11 at 20:17:22


69677E6E78796468606F64680B0 wrote:
I will SO need one of those.  I hate you.    :)

Ha ha ha...  Hater!

I'll let you know how well it prototypes... And then they are up for grabs!!!

Title: Re: Latest Custom by Voodoo Vintage for Austin Sin
Post by Savage_Amusement on 06/07/11 at 09:53:16

Awesome work man! Thanks for sharing.

Title: Re: Latest Custom by Voodoo Vintage for Austin Sin
Post by voodoo on 06/11/11 at 09:03:33


725E435F544342455E435402010101310 wrote:
Awesome work man! Thanks for sharing.

Hey- You're welcome!  I'll be getting all the machined parts from the shop in about a week and I'll probably start a new build thread just for the front end.  I'm thinking about machining a stem that will fit a stock Savage neck!

Title: Re: Latest Custom by Voodoo Vintage for Austin Sin
Post by ROB CYCLE on 06/12/11 at 13:15:01

how about designing something that would fit front calipers and wheel

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