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Message started by Fujisawa Rob on 04/05/11 at 09:18:46

Title: Remove key at "On"?
Post by Fujisawa Rob on 04/05/11 at 09:18:46

Am I supposed to be able to remove the key when the ignition is on? The manual for the later models says no. Mine's an '86.

Title: Re: Remove key at "On"?
Post by Serowbot on 04/05/11 at 10:04:38

Nope,.. it's worn out.
Not good, because your key can now vibrate out while you are riding....

"Till you replace it,.. I'd recommend carrying it in your pocket while you ride.

Try getting a new key cut, and see if that one works.If not you will need a new lockset.

Title: Re: Remove key at "On"?
Post by Fujisawa Rob on 04/05/11 at 12:31:39

7660776A72676A71050 wrote:

I've been taking it out while riding. I need to get copies made anyway, I only have one key. Is it hard to find/replace the lockset? I'd like the key for the toolbox and helmet lock to match. I suppose a locksmith could rekey a new ignition switch to match my existing key.

Title: Re: Remove key at "On"?
Post by Arnold on 04/05/11 at 12:36:39

Wait, it falls because the key is worn out? How is the key able to turn the bike on then. That means that even a crappy key can start your bike, like a screw driver.

Title: Re: Remove key at "On"?
Post by Fujisawa Rob on 04/05/11 at 12:39:53

7F6A7172727B6A7B6C1E0 wrote:

Wait, it falls because the key is worn out? How is the key able to turn the bike on then. That means that even a crappy key can start your bike, like a screw driver.

It doesn't fall out that I've seen yet, although I'm sure with vibration it could. I discovered you can pull it out accidentally. I had the same thing on an 82 Datsun. It was really worn and you could take the key out with the engine running! But you still needed the key, a screwdriver or other keys wouldn't work. Worn tumblers I guess?

Title: Re: Remove key at "On"?
Post by Arnold on 04/05/11 at 12:46:15

So not just the key is worn, ignition tumblers too. Because I would think both piece of metal get the same stress and wear out at same rate. Although a key is cheap enough to test with a new one before you go replacing the key lock.

Title: Re: Remove key at "On"?
Post by Fish on 04/05/11 at 17:15:17

My 79 Cutlass had that feature. And of course by feature I mean that it had a worn out ignition. It was great for warming up the engine/interior on cold days because I could take my keys out while running and lock the doors and go inside the house. On your bike though, that is not a good thing and not supposed to happen.

Do you carry much weight on your keychain? If you have a lot of keys or extra stuff that weight will wear down on your tumblers over time and lead to this situation.

Title: Re: Remove key at "On"?
Post by Fujisawa Rob on 04/17/11 at 09:34:14

Well, I had two key copies cut. They both stay in with the ignition 'on', but can be pulled out with the switch in 'Park'. Seems ok to me.

Title: Re: Remove key at "On"?
Post by verslagen1 on 04/17/11 at 09:48:21

32232329303229212E29400 wrote:

Well, I had two key copies cut. They both stay in with the ignition 'on', but can be pulled out with the switch in 'Park'. Seems ok to me.

looks like you're good to go then.

Title: Re: Remove key at "On"?
Post by Fujisawa Rob on 04/17/11 at 09:49:42

4D5E4948575A5C5E550A3B0 wrote:

[quote author=32232329303229212E29400 link=1302020327/0#7 date=1303058054]Well, I had two key copies cut. They both stay in with the ignition 'on', but can be pulled out with the switch in 'Park'. Seems ok to me.

looks like you're good to go then.[/quote]

Now to get the fork lock rekeyed!

Title: Re: Remove key at "On"?
Post by verslagen1 on 04/17/11 at 10:26:03

22333339202239313E39500 wrote:

[quote author=4D5E4948575A5C5E550A3B0 link=1302020327/0#8 date=1303058901][quote author=32232329303229212E29400 link=1302020327/0#7 date=1303058054]Well, I had two key copies cut. They both stay in with the ignition 'on', but can be pulled out with the switch in 'Park'. Seems ok to me.

looks like you're good to go then.[/quote]

Now to get the fork lock rekeyed![/quote]
Take pictures, don't know how that one's done.

Title: Re: Remove key at "On"?
Post by sbaugz on 04/17/11 at 11:41:36

who the heck uses their fork lock?

Title: Re: Remove key at "On"?
Post by arteacher on 04/17/11 at 14:32:53

If you don't have a key for the fork lock you have to buy a new one and drill out the old one. Suzuki does not offer re-keying (they don't keep track of the key numbers) and do not offer key blanks. After replacing the lock I wanted a third key for my wallet and BMW was the only place to get one.

Title: Re: Remove key at "On"?
Post by Fujisawa Rob on 04/17/11 at 15:34:07

313A3A333F30312B2A5E0 wrote:

Maybe a locksmith could pick it? I doubt it's a very high security lock. I've seen other posts on that so I'll search.

Title: Re: Remove key at "On"?
Post by verslagen1 on 04/17/11 at 16:32:01

I think it takes a special key to get it out.
so find one that does m/c's.