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Message started by reondadomino on 03/21/11 at 17:00:29

Title: Drive belts
Post by reondadomino on 03/21/11 at 17:00:29

Could I use a drive belt from a Harley on my Savage?

Didn't realize it when I bought it, but the drive belt is shot. Then I found out how much they are to replace! A friend of mine rides Harley's and he thought maybe we could just replace it with a Harley drive belt, at the right size of course.

Any thoughts? Advice?

Thanks!

Title: Re: Drive belts
Post by Chopped on 03/21/11 at 17:39:49

save the time and money and just do a chain conversion!

Title: Re: Drive belts
Post by verslagen1 on 03/21/11 at 18:09:47

These belts are not like HD belts.
it may show cracks and be perfectly fine
the fiber underneath does all the work.

Title: Re: Drive belts
Post by MotoBuddha on 03/21/11 at 18:13:37

"Right size" would mean the correct width, length and tooth spacing. And the chances of that are...?

Besides, most HD stuff costs more just because it's HD.

Title: Re: Drive belts
Post by reondadomino on 03/21/11 at 18:31:53

I thought about that but I like the look of the belt drive. Plus I thought it would be more expensive, part-wise?

Title: Re: Drive belts
Post by reondadomino on 03/21/11 at 18:35:08

How do I resize my pics so that it will allow me to attach them to my posts?

I keep trying to post a pic of the belt damage but it won't let me.

Title: Re: Drive belts
Post by Oldfeller on 03/21/11 at 18:40:19

Our list's picture space has been overfilled for 4-5 years now .....

You have to host your pictures elsewhere and post a [ img]" "[/img ] around the picture's location data.

Details on how to do this are here:

http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1240899665

Title: Re: Drive belts
Post by Reelthing on 03/21/11 at 21:09:50

Don't recall any other belt that fits these bikes - new they are high $$
there are usually several around used in good shape for well under $50 likely under $20 off ebay - any year will fit.

Title: Re: Drive belts
Post by Reelthing on 03/21/11 at 21:26:46

by the way these are pretty tough belts what makes the current belt shot?

Title: Re: Drive belts
Post by reondadomino on 03/22/11 at 13:44:02

Looks like I tore on the top, just slightly, but that little strip was probably slapping around so the p.o. just cut it off. And then it looks like a rock or something got caught between the belt and the sprocket b/c there are 2 small holes in the belt.

Title: Re: Drive belts
Post by engineer on 03/22/11 at 13:52:45

If you are near any industrial centers there will be a vendor selling power transmission equipment. I think the Dodge HT200 series ( I may be wrong on which series it is, but like chains these toothed belts have other uses and are standardized) has a belt that is metric, is the same width and pitch, and probably capable of handling more horsepower. I think the standard one that is closest has two more teeth but I read about a Swedish guy using one (or something similar) and all he did was modifly his tensioner set-up a little to move the rear wheel back a little more so as to still have adjustment. In Sweden he claimed he saved one half on the price. Just be careful about what you order, there are different grade belts and make certain you can modify the tensioner, it requires a little welding if I remember correctly.

One other thing, industrial suppliers don't usually sell retail but if you are nice they can sell to you but then they have to mess with sales tax etc. and might arbitrarily jack the price up to cover the extra trouble. If you work for a company that buys such things, even for maintenance, then buying through your company's purchasing department is the easiest way to go and the vendor is more inclined to do the research for you.

Title: Re: Drive belts
Post by reondadomino on 03/22/11 at 14:05:29

How do I link a pic from Facebook? I tried copying the link but it's not working.

Title: Re: Drive belts
Post by Boofer on 03/22/11 at 16:28:06

Reondad, just be patient and somebody on here will offer you one at a good deal. And post or look in the marketplace. They are often sold by people with parts bikes, because they last forever. (Usually) HTH

Title: Re: Drive belts
Post by Routy on 03/22/11 at 17:13:41

Its possible that this belt is used some where else in the industrial world, but don't bet on it. Suzuki is way more than big enough that it could have a belt manufactured for this bike only, and then be able to name the price.

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Title: Re: Drive belts
Post by engineer on 03/22/11 at 17:59:17

Here is a link to a belt catalog with technical specs, horsepower ratings etc. This is just one of many manufacturers. The Savage uses a Bando brand belt. It has 133 teeth, is 40mm wide, with a 14m pitch.

http://pdf.directindustry.com/pdf/cross-morse/timing-belts/20096-124381.html

A standard with many companies is 135 teeth and 1890 long, so the standard size is 28mm longer, you would need to move the wheel back by about half that or about half an inch, that is quite a bit when you look at the adjuster. Bando might have a standard of 133 teeth but as Routy said, it may be made for this bike only. Belts are easily made to length for industrial users who buy in batch quantities.

With so many people converting to roller chains, there will be belts available as Boofer pointed out. I saw one on Ebay about a month ago, I think it went for $60. Two extra teeth doesn't sound like a lot but making that much extra length available at the end of the swing arm is a lot of work unless you are anxious to exercise your metal working skills. One other thing, unless your belt has chipped out pieces or tears it may last for years. A dealer told me they rarely sell a new belt.

Title: Re: Drive belts
Post by reondadomino on 03/22/11 at 18:01:53

You guys are awesome! Thanks for your help!

Title: Re: Drive belts
Post by Chopped on 03/23/11 at 05:47:39

I reitterate....

http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1174239333

Title: Re: Drive belts
Post by engineer on 03/23/11 at 18:09:48

If you still want to pursue cheap belts check this one out on Ebay, 14mm, 133 teeth, both correct, one and a half inches wide. Now since its' pitch is in metric why not the width. 1 1/2 inches is only about 1/16 of an inch away from the nominal 40mm width for the Savage. Makes me wonder if the vendor on Ebay measured it very closely. I think I'll ask if he can measure the width again.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1-1-2-REAR-DRIVE-BELT-133-TOOTH-133T-91-99-HARLEY-DYNA-/140522367656?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item20b7c92aa8

Title: Re: Drive belts
Post by verslagen1 on 03/23/11 at 18:18:46

Why would they adapt the same dim's as a savage?