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Message started by dhorn on 03/21/11 at 09:47:50

Title: Oil change
Post by dhorn on 03/21/11 at 09:47:50

Hey, Im new to the forum. I just bought my 1995 savage LS 650 last summer and absolutely love it.
Quick question. What is the recommended oil to use during the hot months of Spring and Summer? And any brands that are better than others? Thanks

Title: Re: Oil change
Post by MotoBuddha on 03/21/11 at 10:17:59

If yours is like mine, the recommended oil viscosity is on the filler cap.

Brands? That opens a can of worms with no real answer.

Title: Re: Oil change
Post by EJID on 03/21/11 at 10:27:08

I agree w/Budda about different brands, but be sure you go through this link for a how to change your oil...

http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1099572561


Title: Re: Oil change
Post by Oldfeller on 03/21/11 at 10:30:01


Stay away from any oil with an energy star on the can -- energy star on the can means super slippery additives that can make your clutch slip.

Other than that, pick any 10w40 oil you like and change it at least once a year.   Do keep up with your oil level -- these bikes sip a bit of oil with that big jug and that big piston.  

"Getting low" can creep up on you unawares without much effort on your part and getting too low on the oil level is the primary reason these engines die.

Getting lazy on your oil checks ain't recommended.

Title: Re: Oil change
Post by verslagen1 on 03/21/11 at 10:54:28

search for "oil war" and count the bodies  :-?

Title: Re: Oil change
Post by bill67 on 03/21/11 at 11:08:26

Motorcycle oil is made for wet clutches.

Title: Re: Oil change
Post by Oldfeller on 03/21/11 at 11:43:23


Now, now boys, a polite & proper little oil war never really killed anybody.

Bill is still alive and kicking jest fine ain't he?

Title: Re: Oil change
Post by babyhog on 03/21/11 at 12:01:41

And I was about to commend Oldfeller for being so polite.  Then Bill had to come along....   LOL   ;)

But dhorn, you won't get much concensus when it comes to oil.  But you'll get lots of opinions!  At least we give lots of things to think about and decide for yourself.

Title: Re: Oil change
Post by verslagen1 on 03/21/11 at 12:14:42

You'll have to excuse bill... shellshock.

Title: Re: Oil change
Post by Oldfeller on 03/21/11 at 12:19:09


Actually, I can still be all polite and nice as I really do think we have oil warred every possible topic to death at least twice, including oil levels and various methods of checking your oil level.

Key thing really is to have some oil in there ....


;D


Besides, Bill apparently hasn't totally recovered from that last oil war

(he ain't said the K word even once)

Title: Re: Oil change
Post by jspace on 03/21/11 at 20:33:51

i plan on doing my first oil change with rottela 10w40.  

Title: Re: Oil change
Post by Serowbot on 03/21/11 at 23:33:11


15363E3C3F36363F285A0 wrote:

(he ain't said the K word even once)

:-?...
....K K K K K KLOTZ!...
Ahhhhhhh,....
...feel better now...  
... don't know why,... I use Rotella....:-?...

Title: Re: Oil change
Post by Oldfeller on 03/22/11 at 07:13:02


....K K K K K KLOTZ!...
Ahhhhhhh,....

Now now Serro -- no cursing out loud on the list you know -- bad form, not cricket, hip hip and a stiff upper lip and all.  


;D


Rotella comes in a dino 15w40 version in a white gallon jug which is perfectly good for your Savage (and it's cheap too -- if you can get into a Sams Club or other discount/wholesale place you can buy it in 3 gallon BIG jugs REALLY dirt cheap)  Walmarts everywhere sells it for about $11-12 a gallon in the standard white gallon jug.

The better stuff is the Synthetic Rotella 5w40 in the blue jug for about $21 a gallon for those with hot cams and big pistons that rag the piss out of their Savages.   For stock engines, white jug 15w40 is fine and is about half the price of the blue jug ritzy stuff.

Rotella does not come in a 10w40 here in the USA I don't think ...

Now lots of people on the list like to buy $13 a quart motorcycle oils in little quart bottles with a motorcycle on the label.  Yep, it does say JASO MA rated right on the label and that is a good thing.

If you look at a jug of Rotella (either kind) you will find the JASO MA motorcycle rating right on the label, listed right along with about every other rating for every other type of engine.

No picture of a motorcycle though, sorry -- just a very very good oil at about 1/4 as much $$ as the quarts of dino oil with the motorcycle printed on the label.

But remember, oil is oil -- not having some is what kills your engine.


Title: Re: Oil change
Post by bill67 on 03/22/11 at 07:52:27

The Rot oil around here doesn't have a picture of a motorcycle,But does have a picture of a Yugo on it.

Title: Re: Oil change
Post by verslagen1 on 03/22/11 at 09:02:10

I'm not familiar with Yugo's, would it be the 2nd one to the right?
They don't leave crap on the streets around here.
http://www.shell.com/static/rotella-en/images/products/product_banners/triprotection_banner_575x150.gif
I don't know about Renault, but Cat don't like crap.
http://www-static.shell.com/static/rotella-en/images/products/trip_prot/t4_specsandapprovals.gif

Title: Re: Oil change
Post by bill67 on 03/22/11 at 11:47:19

Triple action helps control wear/ deposits/emissions. Klotz controls wear/deposits/emissions.

Title: Re: Oil change
Post by verslagen1 on 03/22/11 at 14:39:15

Rotella protects the pocketbook,
Klotz sucks it dry.

Title: Re: Oil change
Post by Boofer on 03/22/11 at 16:12:14

I can recommend Castrol Xtevo 10W40 at $6 litre or Rotella T Dino 15W40 at $12 gallon. Mine uses less oil with the Rotella, but very little with either. Stay away from energy star oil AND engine additives like STP and such. Just in case you don't know engine oil is for trans case also. That question has been asked, so I'm just bringing it up again. BTW I have about 3,500 miles on each of these oils and run Rotella now. :)

Title: Re: Oil change
Post by bill67 on 03/22/11 at 19:05:41


243720213E3335373C63520 wrote:
Rotella protects the pocketbook,
Klotz sucks it dry.

Versys that what you call penny wise and dollar foolish.

Title: Re: Oil change
Post by verslagen1 on 03/22/11 at 19:27:22

Tell you what bill, ship your bike out here for me to put some serious miles on it.  

I'll only put your preferred grade of klotz in it and leave it completely stock.

In a couple of years, we'll know whether you are right or wrong.

What say you bill?

Title: Re: Oil change
Post by Oldfeller on 03/23/11 at 05:34:25


Formal Oil War is declared, first shots have already been fired


Don't be silly, Bill isn't gonna ever let anybody see his "no maintenance required" bike or let you hear his bike run (assuming that original OEM battery that has lasted forever will actually still crank it).  

;D

ticky ticky ticky ticky ticky ticky ticky ticky ticky ticky ticky ticky ticky ticky ticky ticky ticky ticky ticky ticky ticky ticky ticky ticky ..... (drip drip) ..... ticky ticky ticky ticky ticky ticky ticky ticky ticky ticky ticky ticky ticky ticky ticky ticky ticky ticky ticky ticky ticky ticky ticky ticky ..... (drip drip) .....


Eeeeek!   Run fer yer life, it's an erl war !!

Title: Re: Oil change
Post by bill67 on 03/23/11 at 06:06:20

I need a doctors stethoscope to here the engine when its running,I did use a 1/2 a small thimble of oil in 2500 miles.I'm on my second battery I bought a stock one.

Title: Re: Oil change
Post by buttgoat1 on 03/23/11 at 07:09:02

dont forget the seafoam while you are at it......

Title: Re: Oil change
Post by verslagen1 on 03/23/11 at 07:20:26


3E3530306A6B5C0 wrote:
I need a doctors stethoscope to here the engine when its running,I did use a 1/2 a small thimble of oil in 2500 miles.I'm on my second battery I bought a stock one.

Reminds me of an old joke...
An old woman visits a doctor with a complaint about flatuence, she tells the doc 'they can't be bad though, they don't smell and they're very quiet'  The doc writes her a prescription and hands it to her.  And she asks 'will this cure the farts?'  The doc responds very loudly... 'No, this will clear your ears, and we'll work on the sinuses next'.   ;D

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