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Message started by Russ130 on 03/04/11 at 07:43:15

Title: Looking for input AKA' HELP
Post by Russ130 on 03/04/11 at 07:43:15

First I'd like to say hello to all as this is my very first post on this forum. Recently I purchased a 98 Savage in great cosmetic shape with 4070mi on it but not running. I get to tinkering with it yesterday and discover that what was thought to be the problem (starter solenoid and decomp solenoid) are not the problem. I believe it has very low compression cause it won't do anything with ether even though it has spark. So I start tearing down the head cover and see evidence of someone else having been in there before. Now I'm wondering if they didn't mess with the timing chain. The guy I got it from was told it could be a broken piston ring which I doubt. Any other thoughts as what could this? Also the tail pipe/ muffler is very blue but not the head pipe what would cause that and should I consider that a clue to the underlying condition or would that be a seperate thing? How do you get the blue off? Thanks in advance ;D

Title: Re: Looking for input AKA' HELP
Post by jandaso on 03/04/11 at 07:49:52

Blue Job Chrome Polish Cleaner works for me!

Title: Re: Looking for input AKA' HELP
Post by IN-S40 on 03/04/11 at 07:51:10

Hi, welcome to the forum!

I havent used it before but I have heard good things about Blue Job for removing the blue from the chrome. Google Blue Job and you find it. From what I hear that and alot of elbo grease will make it look much better..
The engine gruru's should chime in soon about the engine...
Darren
IN-S40

Title: Re: Looking for input AKA' HELP
Post by splash07 on 03/04/11 at 07:53:04

you may want to check the timing just to be on the safe side. Also you may as well make sure that the infamous plug leak is taken care of while the head cover is off.

Title: Re: Looking for input AKA' HELP
Post by Serowbot on 03/04/11 at 08:03:16

If a bike's been sitting a long time, especially if it was parked because of a previous starting problem,... it can lose compression due to a lack of lubrication on the cylinder walls... (sometimes referred to as gas wash)(unburned gas in the cylinder, washes all the oil off of the cylinder walls)...
Try a squirt of oil (maybe a teaspoon) into the sparkplug hole and see if that helps.

Worth a try... My Geo Metro had that happen and lost all compression in all 3 cylinders,... a couple of squirts and it was perfect...
Good luck...

Title: Re: Looking for input AKA' HELP
Post by Arnold on 03/04/11 at 09:21:59

75766A67756E3631060 wrote:

you may want to check the timing just to be on the safe side. Also you may as well make sure that the infamous plug leak is taken care of while the head cover is off.

What's the plug leak? The bolt toward the inside of the engine on the head dripping? I notice that bolt on mine is always wet with oil.

Title: Re: Looking for input AKA' HELP
Post by kingart3 on 03/04/11 at 16:05:47

Some nastier options are blown head gasket or burned a hold through a valve. I did that once on an older Honda 100. I would certainly try the "squirts of oil" suggestion first and hope for the best. You wouldn't expect anything majorly wrong on a bike with 4000 miles.

Good luck, -Hal

Title: Re: Looking for input AKA' HELP
Post by Russ130 on 03/04/11 at 17:39:26

Well the timing is roughly 90 degrees off. The plug was leaking already so that is definite gonna happen fix. Tomorrow I will check to see if the cylinder will hold air and if it does then I will set the timing and fix the plug leak. I knew it felt like timing being off but at 4000 mi. I had to second guess myself. So apparently the PO had no clue what he was doing and went and tore down the head, head cover and valve covers. I think it will be fine though because it did have some compression but was really weak. Thanks for the help on the blue chrome that to me is priceless info :)