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Title: Bobber Rat Project :P Post by Hades on 02/27/11 at 14:45:14 It's doubtful everyone will enjoy this, possibly even doubtful that most of you might enjoy this but I'm posting it up anyhow because unlike most of my projects I actually remembered to take some pictures every now and again. Been wanting to build a bobber for some time and although they tend to be a bit ratty by nature mine is a full on "rat". 'ey! It's what I like. Bike is an '86 Savage 650. Build's been going on for a little under a month and I still give it another three weeks to a month before they're complete. (This is only covering the Savage build...) I'll start with the night I picked her up; http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z244/baduimr2/180088_1722950926646_1624551641_1609976_5900993_n.jpg Went straight to tearing her apart, removed the suspension, removed the tank and sprayed it olive drab (Was going for a jungle rat theme though you'll see I changed my mind and went a different route later on.) http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z244/baduimr2/180084_1721684174978_1624551641_1608105_368906_n.jpg Started clipping the wiring and trying to figure out what could and couldn't be eliminated with a lot of help from my buddy Cooncy. We came across some things we didn't know and while searching good ol' Google we found this here forum! (And wiring diagrams that you gentlemen were nice enough to share with others, appreciate it.) http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z244/baduimr2/179014_1722515435759_1624551641_1609275_4736600_n.jpg Just checkin' stuff and spraying a lot of the bike black already. http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z244/baduimr2/168776_1722764121976_1624551641_1609680_7137576_n.jpg http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z244/baduimr2/Bobbers002.jpg Had to order a new front/rear tire 'cause they were utterly consumed by dry-rot. Got a 3/4" white wall for the front and a solid black for the rear. Front wheel was sprayed in bright (but flat) red and the rear in flat black like the rest of the bike. I sprayed coats of OD Green and then flat black on the tank, then sanded the top down to bare metal and some corners and let a rag with clorox sit on it for about an hour to start the rusting process. http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z244/baduimr2/Rusty010.jpg I then took a brush and painted the fighter jet shark mouth on both sides of the tank. Made the gas cap out of some electrical conduit parts from Home Depot and used RTV to make a gasket for it. It's self-tapped on to the tank and is not leaking any fuel even when upside down. http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z244/baduimr2/188264_1750092205161_1624551641_1657001_7841342_n.jpg Got some black drag bars for it off of eBay (was actually having a tough time finding the proper metal to make my own bars so... had to get it [because I'm so darn impatient]). http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z244/baduimr2/Rusty003.jpg http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z244/baduimr2/Rusty013.jpg As I make more progress I'll post more pics and info. You guys have been a great help and I'll try and explain anything any of you may want to know. Thanks for lookin' :) |
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Title: Re: Bobber Rat Project :P Post by MotoBuddha on 02/27/11 at 14:51:35 Funny how that last picture looks like the real wheel is leaning further left than the rest of the bike. But it's looking very cool. Thumbs up. |
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Title: Re: Bobber Rat Project :P Post by Hades on 02/27/11 at 15:14:29 13312A311C2B3A3A363F5E0 wrote:
It might be! Rear wheel isn't bolted down all the way yet, gotta pull it back off so I can grease everything up. Tensioners haven't been touched; belt's loose as hell. :P |
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Title: Re: Bobber Rat Project :P Post by bill67 on 02/27/11 at 16:46:56 I think its the way your camera is taking pictures,Is your roof on your carport curved. |
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Title: Re: Bobber Rat Project :P Post by Hades on 02/27/11 at 17:08:04 000B0E0E5455620 wrote:
Some are shot with my iPhone and some with my GoPro. The GoPro pictures are most certainly fisheye shots but the bike being fairly centered in the picture would stop the lens from messing with the bike itself (enough to get a comment about the wheel being crooked at least). This is just the angle the picture was taken from which I believe is called an 'optical confusion'. See what they did there? Illusion? Confusion? YA! ;D Edited* |
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Title: Re: Bobber Rat Project :P Post by MotoBuddha on 02/27/11 at 17:12:42 I think you should keep the visegrips hanging off the carb or whatever. Very ratty. And if you're going to leave the speedo off, you have a handy drink holder. |
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Title: Re: Bobber Rat Project :P Post by Hades on 02/27/11 at 17:18:50 795B405B764150505C55340 wrote:
Funny you mention the vice grips! I'm using some old, rusty needlenose pliers as extra leverage for my fuel on/off. I'll post pics once it's up. Today I removed the pegs from my foot controls and we're welding some real, dimilitarized grenades on there instead. I'll post some pics of how we mounted the solo seat tomorrow incase anyone cares to see that. The hole in the tank is huge and I've thought long and hard as to what to put in there. I was thinking a pocket from a pool table. Already snapped a shot with a bottle of blue label in it! I'll post that one too, hehe. |
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Title: Seat! Post by Hades on 02/27/11 at 17:31:20 Chopped the last couple inches of frame off; http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z244/baduimr2/seat.jpg Made the measurement! Made sure the seat would clear the tank and would sit where I wanted it and we clamped the bar where it would be welded. http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z244/baduimr2/seat3.jpg Welded all the way around! Can't be having my support fall off on me on the highway... http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z244/baduimr2/seat2.jpg Then of course we welded two bolts facing straight up where the springs (my suspension) would line up with the studs on the seat itself and VOILA! The hard part was done. http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z244/baduimr2/seat1.jpg Blue Label! w00t. ;) http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z244/baduimr2/blue.jpg |
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Title: Re: Bobber Rat Project :P Post by verslagen1 on 02/27/11 at 21:51:16 did you guys notice the gas cap? it's hard, but look past the blue label. |
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Title: Re: Bobber Rat Project :P Post by justin_o_guy2 on 02/27/11 at 23:20:07 thread tile IS Bobber/Rat... & that gas cap is totalee RAT. |
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Title: Re: Bobber Rat Project :P Post by MotoBuddha on 02/28/11 at 04:27:19 You might want to put a little lube on that gas cap before is rusts closed and you need a pipe wrench to fill up. |
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Title: Re: Bobber Rat Project :P Post by babyhog on 02/28/11 at 05:28:54 Looks like fun to me! |
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Title: Re: Bobber Rat Project :P Post by PerrydaSavage on 02/28/11 at 08:10:43 Gotta admit, that is one TOUGH lookin' Rat man! 8-) I was liking the O.D. green paint on 'er though ... |
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Title: Re: Bobber Rat Project :P Post by Serowbot on 02/28/11 at 09:00:34 Is that tank vented?... :-?... |
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Title: Re: Bobber Rat Project :P Post by Hades on 02/28/11 at 10:51:48 Thanks for the comments guys! 795B405B764150505C55340 wrote:
The threads that get screwed in look brand spanking new, but I probably should just in case. It IS mighty humid in Miami during the summer. |
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Title: Re: Bobber Rat Project :P Post by Edgar on 02/28/11 at 15:15:21 Bike is looking awesome man! Did you remove the spokes to paint the wheels? |
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Title: Re: Bobber Rat Project :P Post by MotoBuddha on 02/28/11 at 15:22:26 Looks like he didn't even remove the rotor. |
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Title: Re: Bobber Rat Project :P Post by Hades on 02/28/11 at 15:33:47 5E7F7C7A691B0 wrote:
Nope, I didn't. When I paint both wheels again I will. Probably won't be doing another rattle can job on 'em, I'll pull out the HVLP and compressor for the next round and I'll probably be spraying both front and rear red next time. |
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Title: Re: Bobber Rat Project :P Post by MotoBuddha on 02/28/11 at 15:45:11 But wouldn't taking that kind of care be against the rat code? |
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Title: Re: Bobber Rat Project :P Post by Hades on 02/28/11 at 15:52:42 67455E45685F4E4E424B2A0 wrote:
My bike, my code. ;) |
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Title: Re: Bobber Rat Project :P Post by Scott_H on 02/28/11 at 17:37:58 Lookin' great! |
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Title: Re: Bobber Rat Project :P Post by dasch on 03/01/11 at 11:32:35 41686D6C7A090 wrote:
My bike, my code. ;)[/quote] Hahahaha, that's the spirit we want! :) |
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Title: Foot pegs; Post by Hades on 03/02/11 at 10:07:48 So, We HAVE been slackin' and partying a lot (My birthday's this week and we started early) BUT! One foot peg got done at least and as soon as we get our hands on the welder again the left side will get done. We cut the big bolt that holds the stock peg and welded it to the bracket, then welded the huge nut that the bolt screws to and welded that to a demilitarized pineapple 'nade. THEN we screwed the nut onto the bolt and welded that shut too. I jumped on it to make sure I'll be able to stand on the bike without dying ;\ Only got one pic but you could imagine what it would look like done I'm sure! http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z244/baduimr2/peg.jpg :D |
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Title: Re: Bobber Rat Project :P Post by Serowbot on 03/02/11 at 10:12:18 Don't worry,.. it's inert... ...but the other one.... Well, that one could be ... ert?... :-?... Very cool!... ;D... |
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Title: Re: Bobber Rat Project :P Post by MotoBuddha on 03/02/11 at 10:16:05 Are you going to use a mine for the brake pedal? |
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Title: Re: Bobber Rat Project :P Post by greenmonster on 03/02/11 at 10:20:00 Gotta say, so far, that gas cap is the best part of this build. I love it. |
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Title: Re: Bobber Rat Project :P Post by Serowbot on 03/02/11 at 10:20:49 5D7F647F526574747871100 wrote:
That's just silly.... The mine goes on the kickstand foot... :-?... PS,.. Hades,.. I asked before, but,... is that gas tank vented?... It needs to be, to allow good gas flow... ;)... |
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Title: Re: Bobber Rat Project :P Post by Hades on 03/02/11 at 10:28:19 5640574A52474A51250 wrote:
That's just silly.... The mine goes on the kickstand foot... :-?... PS,.. Hades,.. I asked before, but,... is that gas tank vented?... It needs to be, to allow good gas flow... ;)...[/quote] Not running a rear brake at all, so, no need for the pedal. Gas tank is not vented and since I got the bike hasn't even had fuel in it. I'm glad you mention that, and I assume I missed it the first time, apologies. I'll have to look into how I'm going to vent it! Any suggestions? :) |
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Title: Re: Bobber Rat Project :P Post by Serowbot on 03/02/11 at 11:15:54 I think I'd drill a hole through the top of the cap and run a clear hose, looped up to the forkstem... but I'm an old dirt rider... |
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Title: Re: Bobber Rat Project :P Post by B1-66er on 03/02/11 at 12:36:25 What are you gonna do with the exhaust? |
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Title: Re: Bobber Rat Project :P Post by Hades on 03/02/11 at 14:39:48 67140813134057250 wrote:
Another good question! So far all I've done is chop the muffler off. In the pics the pipe is on it just as is... aside from that I do believe I'll be heat wrapping the pipe but so far I have no plans. Originally I wanted to make it much like the tip of a half stack on a truck with the flap cilnking at the end of the pipe but we'll see where I aim that thing and so on. Ideas are great though, so, if you think of anything let me know! :P If this makes no sense it's 'cause I'm a little drunk. |
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Title: Re: Bobber Rat Project :P Post by MotoBuddha on 03/02/11 at 15:18:48 How about a Cherry Bomb? Or a fishtail? |
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Title: Re: Bobber Rat Project :P Post by justin_o_guy2 on 03/02/11 at 16:54:53 If I was doin the Rat thing, the Cherry Bomb would hafta go on it & I might just try to get a fishtail on it. Cut, Hammered & folded out of copper or whatever I could lay my hands on. |
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Title: Re: Bobber Rat Project :P Post by MotoBuddha on 03/02/11 at 18:36:16 And there's this stuff. http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk182/motobuddha/a4b7f757.jpg |
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Title: Re: Bobber Rat Project :P Post by Edgar on 03/02/11 at 18:56:23 76544F54794E5F5F535A3B0 wrote:
What's that stuff? |
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Title: Re: Bobber Rat Project :P Post by MotoBuddha on 03/02/11 at 19:04:09 Flexible exhaust pipe, like used on some old Harleys. |
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Title: Re: Bobber Rat Project :P Post by ralfyguy on 03/02/11 at 19:42:40 4F6D766D407766666A63020 wrote:
That is some cool looking sh.t!! |
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Title: Re: Bobber Rat Project :P Post by Hades on 03/02/11 at 21:30:09 103229321F283939353C5D0 wrote:
Might have to look into that! Some badass lookin' stuff. |
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Title: Re: Bobber Rat Project :P Post by MotoBuddha on 03/03/11 at 05:02:02 Here it is used on some Knucklehead and Panhead era Harleys. http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk182/motobuddha/a95ca8a3.jpg The trouble with using the flex pipe is getting a good seal at the end. I suppose a liberal application of some kind of modern high temperature sealant would help. There's also some decorative sleeves that look similar and just slide over solid pipes. It's not cheap because it's aimed at the woohoo-I'mma-puttin-more-chrome-on-my-hawg crowd, whereas the stainless steel flex pipe above is aimed at the I-can't-afford-to-have-a-muffler-shop-replace-the-rusted-out-pipe-on-my-LeSabre crowd. |
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Title: Re: Bobber Rat Project :P Post by Demin on 03/03/11 at 05:12:02 There's also some decorative sleeves that look similar and just slide over solid pipes. It's not cheap because it's aimed at the woohoo-I'mma-puttin-more-chrome-on-my-hawg crowd, whereas the stainless steel flex pipe above is aimed at the I-can't-afford-to-have-a-muffler-shop-replace-the-rusted-out-pipe-on-my-LeSabre crowd. GOOD ONE. ;D ::) I know people that resemble that.........on both!!!!!! ;D |
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Title: Re: Bobber Rat Project :P Post by crackmonkey on 03/03/11 at 07:23:35 113328331E293838343D5C0 wrote:
claymore floorboards??? |
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Title: Re: Bobber Rat Project :P Post by buttgoat1 on 03/03/11 at 14:35:06 I figured on fabbing up a steel header then sliding on the SS flexpipe over for looks. |
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Title: Re: Bobber Rat Project :P Post by dasch on 03/04/11 at 03:20:04 A flap!!! I like that a lot! |
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Title: Re: Bobber Rat Project :P Post by PerrydaSavage on 03/05/11 at 02:13:14 Most Rat builders are bona fide, card carrying members of the "Pork Hunt Club" ... and as such are true inovators blessed with a twisted and creative imagination! LOVE that flex exhaust pipe!! 8-) |
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