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Message started by Jahoo on 02/11/11 at 20:19:24

Title: Anyone tried putting on a king queen seat?
Post by Jahoo on 02/11/11 at 20:19:24

I want an old school chopper look on my next bike. Has anyone put a king queen seat on a savage? If so I would love to see pictures.

Title: Re: Anyone tried putting on a king queen seat?
Post by james may on 02/12/11 at 19:58:22

Havent seen any, but it would be cool. Loved the occ chopper my name is Earl bike with the plad really big king and queen seat.
http://nbcauction.auction.seenon.com/viewitem.php?item=960

Title: Re: Anyone tried putting on a king queen seat?
Post by Jahoo on 02/16/11 at 22:14:45

Someone has to have tried at least.

Title: Re: Anyone tried putting on a king queen seat?
Post by Demin on 02/17/11 at 04:53:28

Most people have been going solo seat.

Title: Re: Anyone tried putting on a king queen seat?
Post by nickeynicknick on 06/30/13 at 21:16:19

sorry to bump an old thread but I am wondering the same thing.

I would like to lower the rear of my bike and put a tall sissy bar and a king queen seat on. I know the sissy bar will be fairly easy. just some steel bar bent in the shape I want and bolted to the existing mounts. the seat, however, I know would take a little more effort so I would like to know how it would look before I start in on that big of a project. still debating on using the stock seat pan and building up/cutting down foam and recovering. something like this would be perfect:

http://https://www.denniskirk.com/dk/product_images/08/600pix/08050093.jpg

Title: Re: Anyone tried putting on a king queen seat?
Post by WD on 06/30/13 at 22:57:12

Give me a couple days Nick, I'll rig the tall twisted chick stick back up and drop the true king/queen (Mustang Royal Duke) from the 800 Intruder on the Savage. It will look a bit off, since the seat back only goes the height of a stock Intruder sissybar, proper k/q goes all the way up the bar height.

Pic below should work... era correct set up. Have others, but the nudity in the pics would give the mods fits... ;D

Check THIS thread, currently 109 pages long, will take you a few days...http://www.dotheton.com/forum/index.php?topic=13388.0

Title: Re: Anyone tried putting on a king queen seat?
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/03/13 at 21:30:33

1F0C480 wrote:

im kinda surprised that bikes not sitting up a little better,,

Title: Re: Anyone tried putting on a king queen seat?
Post by nickeynicknick on 07/03/13 at 22:18:25

Evidently, i'm not the only one wanting to try this. http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1372797625

I decided to use the stock seat pan. I have some diamond stitched vinyl fabric on the way and I have some plain vinyl left over from a previous job. I plan on undoing the staples and saving the foam and cover from the stock seat just in case I mess up or want to go back to stock. Watched some youtube videos and read some forums on the subject. I think I should be able to to use spray foam to create a nice base on the plastic seat pan and use other foam and padding to shape a seat that will satisfy my needs. The only part i'm concerned about really is the sewing. I don't own a sewing machine and i'll probably have to get my grandma to help out, or do it for me. ::) . I'm wanting a separate sissy bar and this will be straight forward. I will try to take pictures and/or video as I go along, just in case it turns out ok. ;D

Title: Re: Anyone tried putting on a king queen seat?
Post by old_rider on 07/04/13 at 22:47:26

71767C747A6671767C7471767C741F0 wrote:

Take the finished foam seat and your material to a shop that specializes in covering seats. See how much they would charge to sew one up for ya.

Title: Re: Anyone tried putting on a king queen seat?
Post by WD on 07/05/13 at 07:36:42

Forge...check. Bar stock... check. Welder... check. Upholstery machine... check (and spare, since I stitch my stuff by hand). Unemployable and bored ex-patch holder that loves nothing more than "f***ing up perfectly good motorcycles"... check. ;)

Whenever you're ready, just bring coal and your cover material. And an open mind.

Title: Re: Anyone tried putting on a king queen seat?
Post by paulmarshall on 07/05/13 at 13:25:21

Check THIS thread, currently 109 pages long, will take you a few days...http://www.dotheton.com/forum/index.php?topic=13388.0

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Great photos thanks. ;)

Title: Re: Anyone tried putting on a king queen seat?
Post by nickeynicknick on 07/18/13 at 11:12:13

well I finally dove into my seat. I tried to take pictures along the way but got caught up trying to make things work so not a lot of pictures of the process, but...

first, I pulled the cover and foam off the stock seat pan. pretty easy, just unbolt leather strap and pull staples. I saved the foam and cover just in case ::) here it sits on my bike.
http://i892.photobucket.com/albums/ac127/nggarrett/null-19.jpg

then I gathered supplies. I tried to use what I had available but had to order some material. I got some vinyl that was already diamond stitched with a little foam backing. for the seat foam I bought $5 worth of carpet padding from local shop and some upholstery/project foam(1") from wally world for a few $$. I already had some plain vinyl fabric from previous job to use on the sides.

For the padding, I measured the widest part of the pan and cut a couple strips and laid them on the pan, then cut some smaller pieces to build up the "hump" for the king queen seat. really this was all guess work and a lot of trial and error. I used some spray adhesive once I figured out what pieces I wanted.
http://i892.photobucket.com/albums/ac127/nggarrett/null-17.jpg

and I would suggest something besides scissors and razor blades for cutting. but thats what I had. heres in the middle of cutting the shape. also, notice its a whole lot wider at the top. I tried to taper it like the original so my wife could have a cushy 8 inches on top. (also used some cardboard for a makeshift template so I could keep an idea of the side profile)
http://i892.photobucket.com/albums/ac127/nggarrett/null-18.jpg

...and then some foam layers on top for the misses. very rough but was able to smooth out with some patience.
http://i892.photobucket.com/albums/ac127/nggarrett/null-15.jpg

once I had the shape I thought I wanted I covered the foam in saran wrap. (here its also wrapped to the pan so I could put it on the bike for testing and it wouldnt slide around)
http://i892.photobucket.com/albums/ac127/nggarrett/null-13.jpg

then the cover! this was tricky cause of the curves and tapering, but again patience helped! with the top layer, I cut a strip to the widest point (leaving plenty to be stitched) and put face down on ground. then carefully, using the pan and foam upside down, drew a template on the back of the fabric. same with sides but much easier. once I had a rough three pieces, I pinned them together and did an inside out test fit (also did this several times during the rest of the process ;D)
http://i892.photobucket.com/albums/ac127/nggarrett/null-10.jpg

I would have liked to have had this done, but in the effort to save money, I did it myself. I also would have liked to have had a sewing machine to do this but didnt, and didnt want to borrow one from grandma and tear it up trying to sew a motorcycle seat! :-/ so I opted for hand stitching it. this took a long time! but I did the whole seat over the course of 3-4 days. I just used a running stitch following my lines (and kept test fitting). the hardest part was at the last when doing the back. had a little slack in one corner but was able to make it work.
http://i892.photobucket.com/albums/ac127/nggarrett/null-8.jpg

http://i892.photobucket.com/albums/ac127/nggarrett/null-7.jpg

overall for the amount of money and time I have into it not bad. It is my first upholstery job (my last bike was just one piece of fabric stretched over the pan) here it is on my bike. I still have to do the matching sissy bar and pad. will hopefully have it done in the next couple days. just gonna use 1/2" steel rod bent with some mounts welded. plywood with pad and fabric. and then drill holes through to existing fender rails for mounting to the bike. also, when I was stretching the cover and stapling, I used some batting to fill out the sides so you cant see the layers and edges.
http://i892.photobucket.com/albums/ac127/nggarrett/null-5.jpg

http://i892.photobucket.com/albums/ac127/nggarrett/null-2.jpg

http://i892.photobucket.com/albums/ac127/nggarrett/null-4.jpg

again: not a professional job, but it got the look I wanted, me lowered, my wife more comfortable and didnt cost me a whole lot. sorry for the long post. hope it encourages and helps anybody else wanting to reuse their seat pan!

Title: Re: Anyone tried putting on a king queen seat?
Post by paulmarshall on 07/18/13 at 13:00:03

Good job well done. ;)

Title: Re: Anyone tried putting on a king queen seat?
Post by nickeynicknick on 07/24/13 at 09:56:47

Thanks Paul.

Bad news. seat material doesnt hold up well to water. I've had her covered for the past week almost due to off and on thunderstorms. I pulled the cover off today to go for a quick ride. (I was missing her) and the low sitting edge of the seat(when on the kickstand) was wet around seam. and I could squeeze it and make more water come out. I dried as much as possible and went riding anyways. when I got home, my left cheek was soaked thru. oh well. also, the backrest for me/hump in the seat is too far forward so im literally an inch from sitting on the tank. not a huge problem. I like the bend in my knees and how low I sit but will probably try to fix the foam and figure out what to do(if anything) about the non-waterproof material.

Title: Re: Anyone tried putting on a king queen seat?
Post by Dave on 07/24/13 at 10:04:07

And now you know why the seams in factory seats are heat pressed....and not sewn. Heat pressed seams are waterproof!

Title: Re: Anyone tried putting on a king queen seat?
Post by old_rider on 07/24/13 at 13:23:50

If you are still hand sewing...put a small bead of some sort of sealant in your seems, might be a little messy but it would keep water out and you could trim it after it dries.

Title: Re: Anyone tried putting on a king queen seat?
Post by nickeynicknick on 07/25/13 at 07:45:39

yea, I guess so, Dave. ;D

I might try some kind of sealant. good thing I saved the original. probably slap that back on for now, just so I can ride til I figure something out.

thanks for the responses.

Title: Re: Anyone tried putting on a king queen seat?
Post by WD on 07/25/13 at 08:43:42

Did you remember the plastic layer between foam and vinyl? That's how the factory seat was on mine (and the foam still soaked up water like a sponge and became a mushroom farm)...

Title: Re: Anyone tried putting on a king queen seat?
Post by nickeynicknick on 07/25/13 at 09:02:42

yea. foam is fine. its the material i used. it had diamond stitching already sewn into it. so the thin piece of foam on the inside was soaked. and then my seam around the edges. oh well, it was a fun experiment. i've already got stock foam and cover stapled back on pan. pretty fast/easy job.

Title: Re: Anyone tried putting on a king queen seat?
Post by WD on 07/25/13 at 09:07:37

Keep a close watch on the factory cover, the vinyl is sub-standard. Low UV resistance, low heat/cold tolerance. They are better than they used to be, but there is room for improvement.