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Title: New Savage Owner :) with questions... Post by 95RedSavage on 01/07/11 at 09:05:28 So I have to buy tires. . . I have read through the forum, and many of you recommend either Metzler or Dunlop tires, How do you even choose a tire? Basically all I can figure is that you just choose a brand and go with it. I also had a guy at the Suzuki dealership recommend IRCs? He said that is what originally comes on the bike.. Anyone know about this brand? Of course he quoted me 109 for the front and 130 for the back, whereas I received another quote at a Honda dealership on Metzlers for 120 and 142. I just want a tire to last me awhile for my money. I plan on having the bike for awhile :D Also, have any of you had problems with the engine burning oil? The guy at the Honda service just said that they all burn a little oil, and that even if I had the engine rebuilt that it would still burn oil? Of course he was surely not a fan of the Savage/S40 and thought that they weren't built to the best standards. . . . Or should I be worried about the O rings and pistons? I just bought the bike, it has less than 9K miles on it. My hubby bunny drove it for 300 miles home, and well when we got it the thing didn't even have any oil in it. . . :-/ So of course we are learning as we go! I wanted to have the bike ready to ride and registered by March (Of course I have to get new tires, and have a tune-up) I have loved reading your forum! Thank you ;D Have a good day! |
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Title: Re: New Savage Owner :) with questions... Post by verslagen1 on 01/07/11 at 09:40:28 Metzlers will last 2 to 4 times longer than the IRC's besides feeling a 100 times better. Dun's will last at least twice as long. And the prices quoted are terrible. I hope those are the installed prices. download the owners manual if you don't have one. Oil level by the manual is done with the bike held vertical. On the side stand it may look empty. I hope that was the problem. |
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Title: Re: New Savage Owner :) with questions... Post by babyhog on 01/07/11 at 09:42:06 I bought a new rear tire this past summer. For me, it came down to what I could get, and what I could afford, and a brand I wasn't "afraid" of riding. I ended up with a Dunlop. Others will chime in I'm sure, but different tires perform differently, so it can depend on your riding style. Do you want a stiff tire or a soft tire? IRC's are on these bikes from factory. Whether you want to stick with that is up to you. Also, the rear stock size is 140/80. I went with 140/90, as many here do, because it works, and there are more 140/90 options available, and they are usually cheaper. I haven't replaced the front yet, so I can't help there. Most say 1 front tire will last through about 2 rears. I'm happy with the Dunlop. Just beware the first few miles on new tires... mine felt "slick" until it got the newness worn off. |
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Title: Re: New Savage Owner :) with questions... Post by 95RedSavage on 01/07/11 at 10:07:49 The prices quoted were just the tires... How much do you usually pay? and do you mean prices for the IRCs? or Metzlers? Ah well I do have a manual, I just found what you said about holding it vertically... I guess we will see over the next couple months of riding whether it really burns oil or whether it was rider difficulty ;) I plan on buying a Clymers manual shortly for it... I am new to riding, this is my first 'real' bike. . . so I really do not know why you would want a stiff or soft tire? And... well I have learned over the years.. that cheaper is not always best, so I am not looking for the cheapest, rather, the best quality tire. |
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Title: Re: New Savage Owner :) with questions... Post by bill67 on 01/07/11 at 10:23:27 Pirelli 66 Route tires are the best for handling,And will give you a softer ride,And the price isn't bad either. |
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Title: Re: New Savage Owner :) with questions... Post by Max_Morley on 01/07/11 at 10:32:09 It shouldn't use oil under normal use. I run miles between add or changes I do find if I run either of mine hard on at freeway speeds they will use about a pint a day. Tires are a matter of choice, you've been given some good suggestions here. If you haven't taken a riders safety course consider it as it will be helpful to new or re-entering riders Max |
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Title: Re: New Savage Owner :) with questions... Post by verslagen1 on 01/07/11 at 11:20:54 Quote:
For the IRC's it should be about half that. I got a rear D401 for $110 inc shipping a few months ago. Of course it was on sale, and I installed it myself. Expect to get nailed about $30 per install not including tube if you bring the wheel in by itself. |
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Title: Re: New Savage Owner :) with questions... Post by 95RedSavage on 01/07/11 at 11:46:53 Well that is good to know about the oil and running it hard :) thank you. What are the pros/cons of running a bigger/smaller size tire. I want to use the bike for little rides around town as well as rides that would be around 2-3 hours or 200-300 miles. I want to get used to riding and long distance riding, and sitting. I do plan on taking the riders safety course! And have heard great things about it ;) Well.. That is good to know about the IRCs. The price he quoted me was the price off of parts unlimited. No discounts, or added stuff.. So I will check those IRCs off my list :) I will have to have the tires mounted and balanced by a shop and I have already added that cost on top of the tires.. |
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Title: Re: New Savage Owner :) with questions... Post by verslagen1 on 01/07/11 at 12:18:05 203D3C3C232A6A6A6363530 wrote:
The advantage of running a bigger tire (140/90)... lower rpm's at speed. I run a 130/90-16 for a 5 mph gain at 60 mph. Of course you can do that on stock rims. ;D The 140/90-15's will make up for the speedo error. |
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Title: Re: New Savage Owner :) with questions... Post by babyhog on 01/07/11 at 12:28:53 My new rear Dunlop was right at $200, installed. I don't remember the breakdown of tire/installation/tube, etc. Think of hitting speed bumps and small potholes. Do you want a tire that hits them firmly or softly? The stiffer the sidewall material, the harder the hit will be. Think of curvy roads too. Tire stiffness makes a difference on how the bike will handle and feel to you as the rider. I don't think there is right or wrong, just personal preference. So its just something to take into consideration when buying a tire. Of course, your personal body weight, load on the bike, shocks, etc. all come into play too. Take everything into account when choosing. Read up on all the different tires and find one that suits your style. |
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Title: Re: New Savage Owner :) with questions... Post by Baldeagle on 01/07/11 at 14:24:56 If you have saddlebag brackets check the cleanance sitting on the bike. They will rub the brackets when you hit uneven pavement. I was lucky the dealer made the swap back at no charge. That was my experience trying the larger tire. I have an 05. |
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Title: Re: New Savage Owner :) with questions... Post by MotoBuddha on 01/07/11 at 14:34:44 Tires will always cost more at a dealer, unless they're having a special promotion. They have overhead -- especially now when bike sails are in the toilet. Find out if you have a motorcycle parts/accessories/apparel showroom near you. Their prices are usually a bit lower than dealers. The best prices are off the net, but then you have to get them mounted or do it yourself (which is a fine skill to have). |
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Title: Re: New Savage Owner :) with questions... Post by Trippah on 01/07/11 at 15:36:35 Welcome, so much fun awaits you. Does your Hubby ride also? As you are new to riding, I would suggest the grippiest tires...with Dunlops being quite good and I think the Pirelli's better. You don't need the hard compound last an extra 3000 miles tire at this point in your riding career, you need the tire that helps you when you go into a corner a little hot (fast). And as babyhog so nicely put it, the new tires are slppery so until you use them a bit..be extra careful;. (Of course, that's what hubby bunnies are for). With less than 9K miles, it shouldn't be buring oil..find a Suzuki shop with a mechanic who is sympathetic with thumper..not a Honda guy. I'd get that issue ironed out before investing in new tires..cause if it is really buring oil, I'd seriously consider finding a S-40/Savage that is in better shape....buring oil at 9K suggest the PO didn't treat it well and you want your first years to be about learning to ride with skill, not worrying about your motorcycle. Did you buy the bike from the Suzi shop that's trying to put you on the IRC's? If the salesman is simply trying to move his stock.. you can't blame him. Yet, if they are reputable shop, I'd think having their mechanic go over the bike (esp the engine like a compression check if indeed oil goes missing) would be a good kind of tune up; then get into tires once all is vouched for as good. Best of luck either way and welcome to the wonderfull world of motorcycling..a nicer crowd you can't find. ;D ;D ;D |
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Title: Re: New Savage Owner :) with questions... Post by 95RedSavage on 01/07/11 at 19:11:12 Hmmm This is a lot more than I expected when looking into tires... and motorcycles... :-/ I think that I would rather have a medium ride, not too stiff, but not too soft. Well I only found the Metzlers for like 10/20 dollars cheaper online but that did not include shipping. . . Well of course my hubby knew to tip the bike level to check the oil! He said that it was bone dry when he checked it and put oil in it. :-/ I have read about the tires being slippery for the first 100 or so miles, and ya :) that is what Hunny Bunnies are for :) Why do you call them Thumpers? Naw, we bought the motorcycle from some guy in Deleware, it was a great deal and we had been looking for some time.. But on the bright side we got it for 1k. Ah. We are in Pennsylvania right now, and well the last 3 shops I have visited I do not think I would really trust doing mechanic work, so in March we plan to return to our hometown Honda dealership. They have done work for us before. My hubby bunny got me a 1979 185cc Honda Twinstar :D and he cleaned it up, best he could and then we took it in for the final touches and they did a really good job with it! So.. after riding that for a bit, I moved up to his 03 Nighthawk 250. :) My goal is to ride cross county and see lots of cool stuff before we have kids. This is the next step towards that :D It is so much fun to ride together. Now I can go on trips with him :) He has a 1986 Honda Nighthawk CB700SC. It is way fun, but I like riding on my own bike! :) ;D What are some of your stories? |
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Title: Re: New Savage Owner :) with questions... Post by kimchris1 on 01/07/11 at 19:39:53 Yes welcome to the forum. It is always great when another woman takes to riding her own ride. Your right in saying their is alot to learn. You will learn as much as you want to with the help here. This forum is loaded to the rafters with the best knowledgeable people one could ever hope to find. Be sure to go up above the cafe and introduce yourself as well as agree to the terms if you haven't already. Any mechanical questions once again can be asked and answered in this section. Use the Cafe to ask others about their ride stories. Were always happy to tell about our rookie years as well as our current rides. Again welcome aboard and post some pics if you have them.. Hugs.. Kim :) |
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Title: Re: New Savage Owner :) with questions... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 01/07/11 at 21:46:34 Okay, I gotta admit this going in. I say things that May offend some folks, not meant to be mean, I just have an odd sense of humor. That said, Ive found a place ( Whuu? Me? I Found a place?) for a smart comment. I think that I would rather have a medium ride, not too stiff, but not too soft. I know the tire you want. You want the Goldilocks Tire. There are ways to make sure you never ruin the engine by running out of oil. Youll get loads of info on that one. Welcome. |
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Title: Re: New Savage Owner :) with questions... Post by stinger on 01/08/11 at 00:06:10 There is this place in Vancouver Washington called Pro-Caliber. I bought my Dunlop 404 140/90 tire for$85. I just checked and it was like $125 but they always have sales. Check to see if you have one in your area. No one sells tires cheaper. I think you can look it up on the internet and price them. They also have pages of used bikes for sale. Lots of LS 650 parts you can order and they usually ship the next day. http://www.procalibervancouver.com/ |
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Title: Re: New Savage Owner :) with questions... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 01/08/11 at 00:09:31 The Dunlop is a good tire. Ive worn one out. |
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Title: Re: New Savage Owner :) with questions... Post by 95RedSavage on 01/09/11 at 12:20:29 Thank you all for your comments and advice. It is good to ride my own :) Can't wait to get out and go riding again! lol I think I also want the Goldilocks tire ;) I will have to keep looking for tires, I just can't decide which brand to go for... I priced a set of Pirelli's for around 200 for the set :) So it just comes down to what to get... I will go introduce myself in the cafe :) Thank you so much :) I love this forum :) It makes everything easier (to handle) when you have people standing beside you, for (defending) something you enjoy :) |
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Title: Re: New Savage Owner :) with questions... Post by Boofer on 01/12/11 at 01:36:04 95Red, I disagree that all internet prices are lower than dealerships. I walked into one of my three shops that I use with a picture off the internet of the OEM crash bars. They were $119 and I forgot to mark out the price. He embarrassed me by saying he could beat that by selling to me for $90 if I could wait for four days for free shipping. The other shops also usually beat net prices by a dollar or two, especially when you figure in shipping. Two shops have great service and the big 'ship is known for high prices and snobby sales clerk. It doesn't hurt to check the net 'till you get an idea of what a good dea is. And I do occassionally order off the net. Here are my last two big purchases: 140/80H15 K555 Dunlop-$93. Metezeler tube with 90 degree stem. $32. 100/90H19 Me 880 Metezeler- $117 Metzeler straight stem tube-$15. Rim rubber strips-free. Installation $40 per wheel Plus no labor for installing rear brake shoes since we were already in there. Don't know if they were good prices, but shop is known for good work, and I liked it. I don't have a lot of money, so they usually cut me slack when they can. They are well aware that I rotate between them, and I give the guys a tip to buy lunch when possible. As you know, I live in a rural area and know about everyone around. I sold retail tires, appliances and parts, electronics. I believe that most salesmen are basically honest here in small towns in the South. Treat them with respect and they will usually appreciate it. Believe it or not, the enjoyment you receive from most sales start with a smile and a handshake by you. Remember, you don't have to buy. A little smarts and some knowledge (Kept to yourself) can go a long way to getting what you need at a price you can live with. The Smarts starts here. Even on here, some people have something to prove, but most are VERY helpful. Welcome to the fun...not the anxiety. Boofer |
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