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Message started by wayne929 on 11/21/10 at 16:17:46

Title: Suzuki savage t-shirt
Post by wayne929 on 11/21/10 at 16:17:46

So the site stopped offering suzuki savage tshirt right as i was going to buy one. does anyone have any for sale or have a different design? basically anything with ls650 or savage. thanks

Title: Re: Suzuki savage t-shirt
Post by Boule’tard on 11/21/10 at 16:42:25

They are no longer made. Crash_tx offers non-savage t-shirts that are pretty cool though.  http://www.voodoovintage.biz

Title: Re: Suzuki savage t-shirt
Post by PerrydaSavage on 11/22/10 at 00:23:30

I have one of the original batch of tee's sold from this Site ... is pretty cool! ... but in the abscence of any more being produced, why don't you come up with your own? Design one and take it to a t-shirt print shop to get it made! Or you could buy some iron-on tranfer paper and make your own at home ...

Title: Re: Suzuki savage t-shirt
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/22/10 at 02:55:26

Ohhh, get a crayon...Itll look great,, trust me..

Title: Re: Suzuki savage t-shirt
Post by mick on 11/22/10 at 04:10:50


4B545255484F7E4E7E46545813210 wrote:
Ohhh, get a crayon...Itll look great,, trust me..

Hey Justin you are pretty artistic how about playing around with a design ? No crayons though.

Title: Re: Suzuki savage t-shirt
Post by Paladin. on 11/22/10 at 06:15:25

http://www.andruschak.net/savage/FTP/tshirt01.jpg

image as an .jpg 1200x1480 pixel: http://www.andruschak.net/savage/FTP/tshirt02.jpg
image as an .eps 3000x3700 (10" x 12" 300) pixel: http://www.andruschak.net/savage/FTP/tshirt02.eps

http://www.cheapestees.com/ will sell you white screen printed on black Hanes Heavyweight 25 shirts at about $8 each or about 150 shirts at about $5.50, plus shipping.   I am not capable of buying the $250 to $1000 up front.

Title: Re: Suzuki savage t-shirt
Post by LANCER on 11/22/10 at 06:42:47

whats the progam needed to open it ?

Title: Re: Suzuki savage t-shirt
Post by Paladin. on 11/22/10 at 07:37:33

I have Paint Shop Pro that can make a .eps file, but will not read it back.  There are freeware viewers on the web, but I haven't tried any.
....
ok, used http://epsviewer.org/ and it will will see the image and will save back as a .jpg

Title: Re: Suzuki savage t-shirt
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/22/10 at 11:19:24


7F7B7179667A777E7B7F776B120 wrote:
[quote author=4B545255484F7E4E7E46545813210 link=1290385066/0#3 date=1290423326]Ohhh, get a crayon...Itll look great,, trust me..

Hey Justin you are pretty artistic how about playing around with a design ? No crayons though.[/quote]


I am artistic, using metal & wire & stuff like that, but toss me a pen & paper & things are gonna get ugly.

Title: Re: Suzuki savage t-shirt
Post by wayne929 on 11/22/10 at 19:00:51

I found a guy on ebay who sells them. very generic though, only 15 with shipping. Im still looking for one they sld on this site to pop up for sale. anyone got an extra large?

Title: Re: Suzuki savage t-shirt
Post by Edgar on 11/22/10 at 19:56:18

Somebody more creative than myself should try to revive a savage t-shirt, I'd rock it

Title: Re: Suzuki savage t-shirt
Post by mick on 11/22/10 at 22:24:10


7E6167607D7A4B7B4B73616D26140 wrote:
[quote author=7F7B7179667A777E7B7F776B120 link=1290385066/0#4 date=1290427850][quote author=4B545255484F7E4E7E46545813210 link=1290385066/0#3 date=1290423326]Ohhh, get a crayon...Itll look great,, trust me..

Hey Justin you are pretty artistic how about playing around with a design ? No crayons though.[/quote]


I am artistic, using metal & wire & stuff like that, but toss me a pen & paper & things are gonna get ugly. [/quote]
Justin Art is Art, it does not matter what the medium is,so keep at it.
My B/in Law welded a bed frame the other day ,rather than buy a bigger one, he is a bit tight, he had guests the next night,and the bed frame broke, can you tell he is self taught, there is much more to welding than meets the eye. A little schooling would have helped.

Title: Re: Suzuki savage t-shirt
Post by Midnightrider on 11/22/10 at 22:29:23

I cant remember sh!t. Who did the Dragon T Shirts? Whoever it was they did a great job! Probably would have no problem at all doing a Savage tshirt.

Title: Re: Suzuki savage t-shirt
Post by LostArtist on 11/22/10 at 22:41:32

okay, I'd like to take a stab at something here, give me a flurry of ideas of what you'd all like to see, just anything, crazy, sexy, strong, skulls, flowers, bunnies (thumpers) whatever, over thanksgiving I should have a bit of time to do some sketches and we can work this up together, I'll try not to just copy Ghost Rider, I like that engine shirt, kinda cool, so hopefully I don't let you all down and forget about this, so keep bugging me, but with my grad studies, time is precious.

I like this place and want to give back.  :)

Title: Re: Suzuki savage t-shirt
Post by Edgar on 11/22/10 at 22:57:43

I'd like to something on a black tee that is mean looking, Like the voodoo vintage shirt from the above link posted by boule'tard. But Thad cuz I like bobbers and what not. I know there's more ppl here that dislike bobbers though, maybe make a few designs? Time permitting of course, lets hear those ideas people!

Title: Re: Suzuki savage t-shirt
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/22/10 at 22:58:18


51555F5748545950555159453C0 wrote:
[quote author=7E6167607D7A4B7B4B73616D26140 link=1290385066/0#8 date=1290453564][quote author=7F7B7179667A777E7B7F776B120 link=1290385066/0#4 date=1290427850][quote author=4B545255484F7E4E7E46545813210 link=1290385066/0#3 date=1290423326]Ohhh, get a crayon...Itll look great,, trust me..

Hey Justin you are pretty artistic how about playing around with a design ? No crayons though.[/quote]


I am artistic, using metal & wire & stuff like that, but toss me a pen & paper & things are gonna get ugly. [/quote]
Justin Art is Art, it does not matter what the medium is,so keep at it.
My B/in Law welded a bed frame the other day ,rather than buy a bigger one, he is a bit tight, he had guests the next night,and the bed frame broke, can you tell he is self taught, there is much more to welding than meets the eye. A little schooling would have helped.
[/quote]



Well, thats kinda funny. Ya see, I had a bed frame I had cut & had to weld in splices on each end. Mine stayed, well, so far, anyway.
I am thinking I might just take a class at the community college. I know theres a ton to now that I have never even wondered about.

Title: Re: Suzuki savage t-shirt
Post by wayne929 on 11/23/10 at 20:01:22

I am i design major and could draw up some stuff but dont have any idea how to get it to a shirt. anyone i could e-mail my sketches too and they put it on a shirt for me? seems with this enthusiam we could make a little money too ;D

Title: Re: Suzuki savage t-shirt
Post by Edgar on 11/23/10 at 20:13:19

Don't know how to get it on a shirt either but don't be afraid to share your sketches on here!

Title: Re: Suzuki savage t-shirt
Post by mick on 11/24/10 at 01:30:26


697F67707B272C271E0 wrote:
I am i design major and could draw up some stuff but dont have any idea how to get it to a shirt. anyone i could e-mail my sketches too and they put it on a shirt for me? seems with this enthusiam we could make a little money too ;D

Wayne I wish you guys would put down where you are from.
Any way I have a place couple of miles away that will transfer anything you like onto a "T" shirt ,next time I'm out I will drop in and see the guy ,it's a one man shop,he seems to be busy all the time.
So lets see some sketches ,post them here and let the guys decide the one they like best,meanwhile I will check on prices.
BTW, if we get the design every one is happy with,can you do a nice finished drawing?  in color if need be .

Title: Re: Suzuki savage t-shirt
Post by wayne929 on 11/24/10 at 17:26:33

im from fort myers but commute allover southwest fl. and my girlfriend gets back sunday and she has a scanner so i get them up then for you guys to see and pickout the best ones

Title: Re: Suzuki savage t-shirt
Post by LostArtist on 11/26/10 at 10:25:40

sorry guys, my schoolwork was kicking my but all day yesterday so I didn't get to anything, I have a rough rough draft worked up, but I have to redo it cause it's not my art, just combining elements of other to get an idea of what would be cool so now I have to take that and make it mine, don't you just hate it when something you think will take you 4 hours takes 10 hours??    >:(

Title: Re: Suzuki savage t-shirt
Post by mick on 11/26/10 at 11:32:35


4764787F4A797F62787F0B0 wrote:
sorry guys, my schoolwork was kicking my but all day yesterday so I didn't get to anything, I have a rough rough draft worked up, but I have to redo it cause it's not my art, just combining elements of other to get an idea of what would be cool so now I have to take that and make it mine, don't you just hate it when something you think will take you 4 hours takes 10 hours??    >:(

no hurry mate we aint going anywhere.

Title: Re: Suzuki savage t-shirt
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/26/10 at 11:54:07


4E6D71764370766B7176020 wrote:
sorry guys, my schoolwork was kicking my but all day yesterday so I didn't get to anything, I have a rough rough draft worked up, but I have to redo it cause it's not my art, just combining elements of other to get an idea of what would be cool so now I have to take that and make it mine, don't you just hate it when something you think will take you 4 hours takes 10 hours??    >:(









don't you just hate it when something you think will take you 4 hours takes 10 hours??




When we step out of our normal activities we know well & into something new, there is always a learning curve. Ive crashed & slid into the ditch on many learning curves, costing myself pain, frustration & time, but Ive learned things & saved $$$ in the long run.

What I REally hate is getting done with something & then figuring out I coulda saved time & money by doing it different & woulda had just as good a finished product..





Title: Re: Suzuki savage t-shirt
Post by LostArtist on 11/26/10 at 13:13:44


726D6B6C71764777477F6D612A180 wrote:
[quote author=4E6D71764370766B7176020 link=1290385066/15#20 date=1290795940]sorry guys, my schoolwork was kicking my but all day yesterday so I didn't get to anything, I have a rough rough draft worked up, but I have to redo it cause it's not my art, just combining elements of other to get an idea of what would be cool so now I have to take that and make it mine, don't you just hate it when something you think will take you 4 hours takes 10 hours??    >:(









don't you just hate it when something you think will take you 4 hours takes 10 hours??




When we step out of our normal activities we know well & into something new, there is always a learning curve. Ive crashed & slid into the ditch on many learning curves, costing myself pain, frustration & time, but Ive learned things & saved $$$ in the long run.

What I REally hate is getting done with something & then figuring out I coulda saved time & money by doing it different & woulda had just as good a finished product..




[/quote]

that's where I am with these homeworks, there's got to be a faster/better way, it's programming so I'm sure I'm missing something, the programs work, just a lot of code being cut and paste in my code, that can't be the best way right. . .

Title: Re: Suzuki savage t-shirt
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/26/10 at 13:20:57

Heck, man, IDK hoot about puter coding, except that I NEVER want to know anything about it..

Title: Re: Suzuki savage t-shirt
Post by LostArtist on 11/26/10 at 14:42:12

here's the rough idea, trying to work an image of the full bike in there  and redoing the wings cause those aren't mine, but I like this a lot, I used the engine and LS650 that was posted here a few posts up, so hope that was okay. again, just slapped this together to get a feel for what I want to do.

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a9/mxr199/tshirt02.jpg

Title: Re: Suzuki savage t-shirt
Post by wayne929 on 11/26/10 at 16:47:52

if that were on a shirt id buy it. I dont know if im going to put my drawings online now haha. mine are just pencil sketches

Title: Re: Suzuki savage t-shirt
Post by LostArtist on 11/26/10 at 17:04:47


2D3B23343F6368635A0 wrote:
if that were on a shirt id buy it. I dont know if im going to put my drawings online now haha. mine are just pencil sketches


totally put them up, we can mash off each other and create some options, maybe something cleaner, something less engine specific, all kinds of things, some people don't like splatter or wings, who knows.  trust me, my other idea isn't as good as this one but I'm still going to post it, more splatter, need something to get me out of the splatter mood, I'd also be more than happy to take your sketches and make them into something digital for you as well, like vector art or something depending on the detail, if you'd let me

Keep the feedback coming y'all

Title: Re: Suzuki savage t-shirt
Post by wayne929 on 11/26/10 at 17:32:03

alright well i get them up sunday. the majority of mine are symbols and not drawings of the engine or the bike. maybe we could combine the 2 and make it look more appealing.

Title: Re: Suzuki savage t-shirt
Post by babyhog on 11/26/10 at 17:35:45

I think the big single is definitely the important part, its gotta be in there somewhere.  

I can't draw, so I used a photo.  I took a pic of my bike, chopped it up, distorted it like this.  Maybe it will give you some ideas:

http://i757.photobucket.com/albums/xx211/babyhog/S40/PIC-0566-1-1-1-1.jpg

Title: Re: Suzuki savage t-shirt
Post by Oldnewguy on 11/27/10 at 11:39:03

I am in for 6 shirts of most any color or design. I live in a Harley town and there is not much Suzuki stuff available. I love black. The best way to make them would be thru a sport shop. I used to do a few iron on transfers, but you can't do anything with white except on a white tee. The white in the design is actually the shirt. Only the very expensive Elf printer will print in white. (last I knew)  :)

Title: Re: Suzuki savage t-shirt
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/27/10 at 11:42:25

T shirts are great for folks who have something they want to say, but dont want a tattoo. & come on, lets face it, a bumper sticker across the back is just tacky.

Title: Re: Suzuki savage t-shirt
Post by mick on 11/27/10 at 11:56:08

How about a nice picture of a spotlessly clean Savage .
facing left ,so the exhaust shows, with a beautifull girl sitting on it ,looking right at you.
And make a few up in womens sizes ,with a real hunk sitting on it.
Sorry lady's I am not available.
You cant beat simple,as for the winged engine er er ,,,,not my cup of tea.

Title: Re: Suzuki savage t-shirt
Post by Oldnewguy on 11/27/10 at 12:54:23

I'm not much for guys on my t shirt!  :(

Title: Re: Suzuki savage t-shirt
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/27/10 at 12:58:57


6A7D6C7D7D6F390D0 wrote:
I'm not much for guys on my t shirt!  :(



Boy, me neeether. Makes it hard to get up, I tell ya..

Title: Re: Suzuki savage t-shirt
Post by mick on 11/27/10 at 13:11:19


6B7C6D7C7C6E380C0 wrote:
I'm not much for guys on my t shirt!  :(

if you took the extra second or two you could have read the whole thing.

Title: Re: Suzuki savage t-shirt
Post by Edgar on 11/27/10 at 14:09:37

We should get multiple styles going, a nice classy look like the style Mick suggested, and a greasy mean bobber style for us other dudes/etes. What about something with that red devil that can be used as an avatar on this site?

Title: Re: Suzuki savage t-shirt
Post by mick on 11/27/10 at 17:24:51


6243404655270 wrote:
We should get multiple styles going, a nice classy look like the style Mick suggested, and a greasy mean bobber style for us other dudes/etes. What about something with that red devil that can be used as an avatar on this site?

BTW Edgar speaking of avatar,the one you use looks alot like the Welsh flag, I think the welsh flag is a red Dragon,I guess yours is a red Lion,I used tp drink in a pub called the red lion,come to think of I must have drunk in every pub in England, and I think I drank Canada Dry.

Title: Re: Suzuki savage t-shirt
Post by Edgar on 11/27/10 at 18:14:58

Ah yes the welsh flag is one of my favorites, a red dragon with white top and green bottom. I use the rampant lion beaause it's in my family crest, I just changed the colors because I like red on black. Im young but I will attempt to drink up San Diego in your honor Mick! ;)

Title: Re: Suzuki savage t-shirt
Post by Oldnewguy on 11/28/10 at 03:59:04

Sorry Mick, you are correct. When I saw the phrase "a few in woman's sizes" my mind turned to cantalopes instead of woman's t shirts for some reason and clouded my judgement.   :o  ;D

Title: Re: Suzuki savage t-shirt
Post by ALfromN.H. on 11/28/10 at 18:41:02

I found this online. I have nothing to do with these sites. Just something I found.
http://www.zazzle.com/savage_650_tshirt-235192654739728479
http://www.shirtznthingz.com/Prod-21-1-299/Suzuki-Savage.htm
http://compare.ebay.com/like/170485356501?ltyp=AllFixedPriceItemTypes&var=sbar

Title: Re: Suzuki savage t-shirt
Post by wayne929 on 11/29/10 at 15:05:52

so i have a few sketches but cannot get them up on the site. keep getting a error saing it cant handle my kilobytes. whatever that is. Anyone i can E-mail this to so they can put it up for me?

Title: Re: Suzuki savage t-shirt
Post by LostArtist on 11/29/10 at 16:35:57


55435B4C471B101B220 wrote:
so i have a few sketches but cannot get them up on the site. keep getting a error saing it cant handle my kilobytes. whatever that is. Anyone i can E-mail this to so they can put it up for me?



here are Wayne's designs

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a9/mxr199/img0012.jpg

They have a different take on things. deffinitely something to work with

Title: Re: Suzuki savage t-shirt
Post by mick on 11/29/10 at 17:01:27

So far I like thev   LS
                         650.
with the shadow going back into infinity.
like it's coming atcha fast.

Title: Re: Suzuki savage t-shirt
Post by Edgar on 11/29/10 at 17:48:02


75717B736C707D7471757D61180 wrote:
So far I like thev   LS
                         650.
with the shadow going back into infinity.
like it's coming atcha fast.


I'd deffinately rock it.
I also like the S40 on top of wings, and the skull with the rubberside down, love that font man

Title: Re: Suzuki savage t-shirt
Post by babyhog on 11/30/10 at 05:59:58

I may have found us a deal.  I wasn't looking for this, but a friend of mine sent it to me by email, just this morning.  This is her son's new business.  These are friends of mine, so we should be able to get a decent deal, whenever we get around to putting together an order.

Also, some of you may remember me posting a video of a friend walking for the first time with his prostethic leg.  This is that kid!  He lost the lower half of his leg in a motorcycle accident!  

Edit - Here's their website....  http://www.ccdwv.com/index-1.html 

http://i757.photobucket.com/albums/xx211/babyhog/stuff/CCDWVDeal.jpg

Title: Re: Suzuki savage t-shirt
Post by LostArtist on 11/30/10 at 10:57:41

very cool babyhog, wish I could concentrate more on this design now, got one more week of classes then one week of finals then I can do something fun for once.  2 more weeks until freedom!!!!

Title: Re: Suzuki savage t-shirt
Post by mick on 11/30/10 at 12:09:18

Babyhog,please do not take offense ,it does look like your friend does great work and he is very talented ,my only question ,does he sell these "T" s for $4 a piece ? Ok here is my real concern if these Tshirts are of Wal-Mart quality they wont last very long,I think it would be better to get good quality shirts and sell them for a little more ,What do you think ?
I guess you can run a poll ,just a thought.

Title: Re: Suzuki savage t-shirt
Post by babyhog on 11/30/10 at 12:31:07

Yea mick, $4 is dirt for a t-shirt... so no offense taken.  That deal is bulk, and white.  I'm not sure what kind, but I would bet he has better quality ones for a bit more.  I personally would prefer a color.  Yellow, orange, something bright.  That was just his grab-em deal, I'm sure.    

Title: Re: Suzuki savage t-shirt
Post by Paladin. on 11/30/10 at 14:26:40

I like cheap t-shirts (I have a pile of them from "Unified Message")  I'm male.  If I need a rag I grab a t-shirt, even if I need the one I am wearing.  

I like black t-shirts because they hide the oil better.

Title: Re: Suzuki savage t-shirt
Post by John_D FSO on 12/01/10 at 03:13:42


62535E53565B5C320 wrote:
I like cheap t-shirts (I have a pile of them from "Unified Message")  I'm male.  If I need a rag I grab a t-shirt, even if I need the one I am wearing.  

I like black t-shirts because they hide the oil better.

I'm the same way, I've got a bunch with my work logo on them, when they used to give us a couple every year.  Almost have one for every day of the week now! :D

Title: Re: Suzuki savage t-shirt
Post by wayne929 on 12/02/10 at 17:09:38

so i found a tshirt making place in my area with 4 dollar tshirts also, without buying 40 at a time. im going to try one there with the rubberside down drawing i made along with the skull and a ls650 in grafitti on the front. hopefully get it done saturday.

Title: Re: Suzuki savage t-shirt
Post by wayne929 on 12/08/10 at 16:22:09

so i got one of my shirts in the mail. i got it off ebay for 15$ shipped
http://s1142.photobucket.com/albums/n616/wayne9291/?action=view&current=Pictures1.jpg

Title: Re: Suzuki savage t-shirt
Post by drharveys on 12/09/10 at 08:00:22

You can also make your own -- choose the quality of shirt you like.

Pick up some iron-on transfer "paper" at the office/computer supply place, use the reverse or mirror printing option on your printer.

We picked up some "My grandpa loves motorcycles and me, but not necessarily in that order" T's for the grandkids and I put a photo of my bike on the back.  

It worked well, but I didn't take a photo and they're back home...

Title: Re: Suzuki savage t-shirt
Post by Starlifter on 12/09/10 at 08:05:53

It's been over six years since this bike has been called a "savage".

I don't even like that word...can't we just call it an LS 650 or something so that any T-shirts that become available can be used by everyone?

Title: Re: Suzuki savage t-shirt
Post by bill67 on 12/09/10 at 12:21:22


0F283D2E30353A28392E5C0 wrote:
It's been over six years since this bike has been called a "savage".

I don't even like that word...can't we just call it an LS 650 or something so that any T-shirts that become available can be used by everyone?

+1 one I don't own a savage,dumb name,I have a Boulevard S40

Title: Re: Suzuki savage t-shirt
Post by LostArtist on 12/09/10 at 12:29:07

I like Savage, has attitude, Boulevard is like a rich man's toy or something

Title: Re: Suzuki savage t-shirt
Post by mick on 12/09/10 at 12:30:46


67405546585D52405146340 wrote:
It's been over six years since this bike has been called a "savage".

I don't even like that word...can't we just call it an LS 650 or something so that any T-shirts that become available can be used by everyone?

I was decided many moons ago to call the bike a Savage,I mean lets face it it's about as far from anything savage , as a lamb.
So LS 650 it is. are their any objections ?
I think if you go to the trouble and expence to put that Cafe kit on it ,you can call it what ever the heck you want to,even a Savage.

Title: Re: Suzuki savage t-shirt
Post by mick on 12/09/10 at 12:42:04

Ok guys and gals,by popular request a little poll to play with.
I know some of you have pet names for your steed, especialy if they don't start.we don't want those only the S40.

Title: Re: Suzuki savage t-shirt
Post by mick on 12/09/10 at 22:52:43


5B7864635665637E6463170 wrote:
I like Savage, has attitude, Boulevard is like a rich man's toy or something

Lost,do you have a car or pick up ? YES ! then your bike is a toy.
You don't need it for anything else but pleasure,it's a toy.

Title: Re: Suzuki savage t-shirt
Post by braveteacher on 12/31/14 at 20:27:15

I get shirts at UberPrints.com...little pricey but very good quality.  I took the JPeg posted earlier and made the shirt for $25 bucks...

http://https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/s2HBgZLnGPmJHB7FgO3r3T_p5C7o2b_USXjKKstB9Cs=w331-h207-p-no

http://https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/OT3zZE0649GkFjP4xQfVsqeIzBduE8BSX7bEkZ7VAHs=w155-h207-p-no

Great shirt...can not wait to wear it.

Title: Re: Suzuki savage t-shirt
Post by MMRanch on 12/31/14 at 23:36:21

I like everything but the $25.oo part !   ...   $14.95 and it will sell .  :P


Title: Re: Suzuki savage t-shirt
Post by savskad on 01/02/15 at 05:14:32

Hey everybody, I'm thinking about buying some 25 or 30 shirts from cheapestees.com with the Savage engine on it. If I did, I would sell them probably near or at cost + shipping from me to you.

If I did this, who all would be interested in buying one? I will most likely start a dedicated thread for this, but just testing the waters right now.

I'm hoping to at least be able to sell most of them. I will ask about sizes in the dedicated thread.


Title: Re: Suzuki savage t-shirt
Post by savskad on 01/02/15 at 05:24:14

Just like Paladin had said, I wanted to verify the prices were still the same since it was 5 years ago. I just guesstimated on the sizes. Let me know guys, I'm excited about this!


http://i.imgur.com/6suf2w1l.jpg

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