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Message started by jde30 on 11/04/10 at 14:40:36

Title: oil change
Post by jde30 on 11/04/10 at 14:40:36

I have 2 questions. what are the size if the alen head for the oil cover? and is it nessesary to change the o rings on the second oil change? I am new to motorcycles and do not want to mess anything.

Title: Re: oil change
Post by Edgar on 11/04/10 at 14:54:40

I wish everything was this easy

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Title: Re: oil change
Post by Boofer on 11/04/10 at 19:26:21

jde, I think the hex heads are 5mm. I bought a set of Lysle metric hex wrenches in a plastic holder for $8 locally. I bought my '01 with 7400 miles on it. I now have 13,800 on it and have never changed the small o ring that seals against the hole in the filter, but I do feel it to make sure it is still pliable. I replaced the big o ring on the cover after my second change. It was seeping a little. BE SURE to install the filter in the correct orientation so it can get the oil through the larger hole that seals on the small o ring. Keep both o rings on hand just in case you need one. Oil pressure is not tremendous, so the bigger o ring doesn't have to be perfect. Don't overtighten the screws and remember to put the spring back in. No sweat.

Title: Re: oil change
Post by jde30 on 11/05/10 at 18:34:49

thank you for the info. I changed my oil this evening everything went well. it was easier than my car. is there a good place to buy the filters and o rings on line. the dealer seams to be a bit high.
Thank you all for all the help. and information.

Title: Re: oil change
Post by thumperclone on 11/05/10 at 18:43:16

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Title: Re: oil change
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/05/10 at 21:51:52

Ill bet the poor guy is scratchin his head, tryin to figure out what that was all about,.

Title: Re: oil change
Post by verslagen1 on 11/05/10 at 22:10:27

4A44451310200 wrote:

is there a good place to buy the filters and o rings on line. the dealer seams to be a bit high.

Go thru the list, prices vary. Figure out how many you'll need for the year and make a bulk purchase to save on shipping.

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Title: Re: oil change
Post by drums1 on 11/06/10 at 06:19:26

I get my filters from the local bike repair shop--cost about $4 each. I use Autozone 10w40. It's the right kind of oil at about 1/3 the price of the dealer, or of the exotic oils some folks on here use. The bike seems to enjoy it, ( no problems after 7 oil changes ) and my wallet enjoys the extra green stuff.
Oh dear God, this isn't going to cause yet another "oil war", is it?

:o

Title: Re: oil change
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/06/10 at 07:24:23

Oh dear God, this isn't going to cause yet another "oil war", is it?

Most likely, unless youre willing to surrender NOW.

Title: Re: oil change
Post by Charon on 11/06/10 at 07:31:58

Since I have a new 250 Star, still under warranty, I bought the Genuine Yamaha Oil and the Genuine Yamaha Oil Filter from the dealer. The oil was $4.95 per quart for conventional oil. Yesterday I happened to be perusing oil prices in Walmart, as part of my ongoing experiment with oils, and oil was about $3.90 depending on brand per quart. I'd say the dealer isn't marking the oil up an awful lot. Certainly not double or triple. Oil is a little less expensive purchased in gallon containers, but those containers are more awkward to use.

By the way, does anyone know whether oil has a shelf life?

Title: Re: oil change
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/06/10 at 09:51:47

By the way, does anyone know whether oil has a shelf life?

AFAIK, No. I suppose if it was gonna go bad, it woulda done done it before it got pumped outta the ground?

Title: Re: oil change
Post by Howitzer on 11/06/10 at 15:39:05

Wasn't sure if I should have started another thread, but I'm gonna hijack this one. Where the heck is the drain plug?

I have an '06 S40, and the thing I think is the plug is almost obscured by one of the frame pipes. I can't get my socket wrench there, and my smallest wrench(adjustable) barely fits there. It's hard to get leverage to unscrew the plug. Plus, the ground is pretty close to it already....Am I doing something wrong here? :-?

Title: Re: oil change
Post by Phelonius on 11/06/10 at 16:40:54

Allen screws at the oil filter are 6mm screws using a 5mm allen wrench.

The drain plug is best served with a box end wrench and is located where the sun don't shine, don't lose the aluminum crush washer and replace it occasionally. About every third time it is removed.

Phelonius

Title: Re: oil change
Post by Howitzer on 11/06/10 at 20:49:42

Thanks Phelonius. I was thinking that I might need a 12 point wrench.

Title: Re: oil change
Post by Routy on 11/06/10 at 21:30:55

Yes, you do.
Don't use an adjustable wrench anywhere on a motorcycle !

60475F415C524D5A280 wrote:

Thanks Phelonius. I was thinking that I might need a 12 point wrench.

Title: Re: oil change
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/06/10 at 23:36:12

box end wrench

Title: Re: oil change
Post by Howitzer on 11/08/10 at 14:23:57

Hm...I know box wrenches are sturdier and let you tighten things more. I was trying to save a bit of money before I *needed* to get a wrench set. I've been borrowing wrenches from my lab for now, or relying on my rachet wrench.

Tools are expensive! I never realized when I was using my dad's.

Title: Re: oil change
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/08/10 at 17:02:25

You can get a set of Craftsman metric endwrenches, sizes 10 to 17 or so for little or nothing, OR, You can go to a pawn shop & buy THE wrench you need. If you dig thru & get the " Non Harbor Freight" ones, then youre set . But, if you get the H/F tools, youll probably be just as happy with them. Not like youre gonna be working on something thats just Awfull Tight.