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Message started by Drifter on 08/13/10 at 14:59:59

Title: Bloody nose guy???
Post by Drifter on 08/13/10 at 14:59:59

Anyone know why the guy with the bloody nose is on the home page? That has to turn alot of people off to this site older folks for sure.


Title: Re: Bloody nose guy???
Post by bill67 on 08/13/10 at 15:10:43

I don't think most people use the home page for their start up page.

Title: Re: Bloody nose guy???
Post by mick on 08/13/10 at 16:05:05

that bloody picture is way past it's shelf life, should have been removed years ago.
He is "The mysterious John" him and a few others started this site,
I think Sluggo and Verslagen were in at the start,they might answer your question better than me.

Title: Re: Bloody nose guy???
Post by mpescatori on 08/14/10 at 07:17:36

IIRC, This question has been asked many times before

It seems that is the only public picture of the famous JohnH of SuzukiSavage.com fame, any other picture is exclusive property of Dana Scully and the X-Files  :D

Actually, I would much rather see a group photo or a mosaic of "Famous Savages from around the World" !!!  8-)

Title: Re: Bloody nose guy???
Post by jef.savage on 08/14/10 at 07:22:10

I only see that page if I'm coming in from a different computer and type in suzukisavage.com.  Has anyone else noticed that since it was hacked and then repaired it now says T-SHIRTS =STICKERS=CRAP?

Title: Re: Bloody nose guy???
Post by Serowbot on 08/14/10 at 08:13:20

Newbies be warned!... Don't buy any t-shirts or stickers there...  Your bike will wear out before you get them...

Lancer and Verslagen are legit sellers of modded bike parts...  
They are safe and reliable,...like a couple ol' hound dogs...
... ;)...

Title: Re: Bloody nose guy???
Post by Paladin. on 08/14/10 at 08:26:28


71475C53415047350 wrote:
Anyone know why the guy with the bloody nose is on the home page?


Guy with the bloody nose is John Himmelberger, Engineering staff at OlyPen.  HE started SuzukiSavage.com in July '03.  He has mostly got busy elsewhere and it has been mostly on automatic since '05.

I can go riding, talk about it later if need....


Title: Re: Bloody nose guy???
Post by Serowbot on 08/14/10 at 11:45:04

That bloody nose thing is a mess,...

Somebody hack in there and replace it...
How 'bout one of these?... :-?...

http://i600.photobucket.com/albums/tt82/serowbot/rerun/cart_logo3e.jpg?t=1281811450

http://i600.photobucket.com/albums/tt82/serowbot/rerun/cart_logo2.jpg?t=1281811444


Title: Re: Bloody nose guy???
Post by tcreeley on 08/14/10 at 12:30:48

I think the site is great just the way it is- had to laugh when I first saw the bloody nose--  I mean if a guy rides a Savage - you kind've have to expect a bloody nose! ;D

Title: Re: Bloody nose guy???
Post by verslagen1 on 08/14/10 at 12:33:28

serow, either one would do.

but to really get the flavor of the site...

how about several versions of the bike fanned out left to right, stock to chopper.

Title: Re: Bloody nose guy???
Post by Serowbot on 08/14/10 at 12:38:01


766572736C6167656E31000 wrote:
serow, either one would do.

but to really get the flavor of the site...

how about several versions of the bike fanned out left to right, stock to chopper.

Didn't want to single out anybody's bike in particular,... so I went with stock shots...
But, I could give it a try... ;)...

EDIT---( Nope,... I tried, but there's not enough room to do more than one bike justice)...

Title: Re: Bloody nose guy???
Post by Paladin. on 08/14/10 at 13:30:29


587B7371727B7B7265170 wrote:

Paladin, do you own the site, or does Mysterious?...

Fortunately for me, NO!  I do not own the site.  I do not WANT it.  I used to have geeia.com, but I sold it -- no much work, I'm lazy.

*IF* anyone wanted it, and John willing to sell it, it would not be hard to transfer it's domain and site host.  Biggest problem would be to find someone who wants the job.

Title: Re: Bloody nose guy???
Post by Paladin. on 08/16/10 at 15:17:28


405344455A5751535807360 wrote:
serow, either one would do.

but to really get the flavor of the site...

how about several versions of the bike fanned out left to right, stock to chopper.

http://i600.photobucket.com/albums/tt82/serowbot/rerun/cart_logo2.jpg?t=1281811444
Would be easier for good pictures of some of our bikes.  The side slightly forward as the stocker above, pictures taken with a blank white background, a wall or a sheet.  Would have to include Max's Light Touring, a moderate bagger, and two bobbers.

I could do the pictures, and John *could* allow me FTP access to change the pictures.  I am trustable do just that part and not look/touch anything else.  John could possibly trust me.  I would not.  Others do trust me.  I hate people who do that.

Would be nice if Sluggo was kicked up to Admin in the Forum, and allowed a couple of moderators.

Title: Re: Bloody nose guy???
Post by mick on 08/16/10 at 16:45:57

If we are going to have new moderators lets hope they are not biased
about religious freedom,or the lack of religion,I choose to be an atheist as per my rights as an American citizen,I do not have to follow the herd,I much prefer to remain free,and leave religion to those people who like that sort of thing.

Title: Re: Bloody nose guy???
Post by bill67 on 08/16/10 at 17:00:32

You know I think this forum is going a long pretty good,Other than the Gort deal,Sometime changes can end up for the worst.My 3 cents

Title: Re: Bloody nose guy???
Post by drharveys on 08/16/10 at 19:51:09


4F4441411B1A2D0 wrote:
You know I think this forum is going a long pretty good,Other than the Gort deal,Sometime changes can end up for the worst.My 3 cents


Are you referring to The Law of Unintended Consequences?

Title: Re: Bloody nose guy???
Post by mick on 08/17/10 at 00:36:41

do you all think we should have a vote about the bloody nose guy ?

Title: Re: Bloody nose guy???
Post by stinger on 08/17/10 at 01:03:21


Sprinkles holy water on Mick and watches him burn! ;D  Also for the newbies you might not want to invest in the t-shirts and other stuff but Gregg D's CD on the Savage home page is on the up and up. You order it and he will send it in a day or so.  I ordered Lancers cam and it came within a few days. I think your pretty save ordering from Lancer and Phelonius. I would have no problem sending them my money. Good honest people. But then again they probably go to church and have high moral standards.............HA!

Title: Re: Bloody nose guy???
Post by Paladin. on 08/17/10 at 01:37:50


2E2A2028372B262F2A2E263A430 wrote:
do you all think we should have a vote about the bloody nose guy ?

John is the owner.  1,000 users vote no.  John votes yes.  The picture stays.

The WWW is *not* run democratically.  

Title: Re: Bloody nose guy???
Post by PerrydaSavage on 08/17/10 at 03:10:38

Doesn't bother me to see John H's pic up on the front page (The Forum page should loose the Santa hat and Christmas decorations though! LOL!! ;)) ... I have been a member here since I purchased my 1st Savage in Aug. 2003 ... this website is home for me and always will be, regardless of what I am or am not Riding ...

Title: Re: Bloody nose guy???
Post by John_D FSO on 08/18/10 at 01:54:33


576275757E6366546671666062070 wrote:
Doesn't bother me to see John H's pic up on the front page (The Forum page should loose the Santa hat and Christmas decorations though! LOL!! ;)) ... I have been a member here since I purchased my 1st Savage in Aug. 2003 ... this website is home for me and always will be, regardless of what I am or am not Riding ...

Same here, I signed up sometime in 2008 after I bought my Savage, and in fact haven't had one since March (I know, sacrilige! :D), but the people on here are cool enough to make me keep coming back. ;)

Title: Re: Bloody nose guy???
Post by mick on 08/18/10 at 13:10:06


2225383F363423510 wrote:
Sprinkles holy water on Mick and watches him burn! ;D  Also for the newbies you might not want to invest in the t-shirts and other stuff but Gregg D's CD on the Savage home page is on the up and up. You order it and he will send it in a day or so.  I ordered Lancers cam and it came within a few days. I think your pretty save ordering from Lancer and Phelonius. I would have no problem sending them my money. Good honest people. But then again they probably go to church and have high moral standards.............HA!

Stinger you are so typical of religious nutcases,like the couple who got stoned to death for being unfaithful,admittedly a different religion,but a religious law in the Koran or on the books in that god forbidden country.
And as for you ,Yes you Mr Virtuios, you just condemned me to death with holy water ,and then without even peeing on me to douse the fire you will happily WATCH me burn.
Fortunately I am fearless of all holy water,and idiots who would throw it on me,  I have a great idea, Why don't I throw some sulfuric acid in your face and watch you pray for help, guess who won't get any.
Just like the third couple this year that are going to jail and losing there children ,because they are members of the Church of Jesus Christ,they all gathered to cure there daughter of some easyly treated problem,she subsequently died ,great God you got there Stinger,tell me would you rather pray that your appendix  will fix itself or would you see a doctor,even if he's an arab whitch is very likely.?

Title: Re: Bloody nose guy???
Post by Boule’tard on 08/18/10 at 17:23:59

;D   Good rant dude -  The stingER has become the stingEE  :D

You guys can be very funny with the left/righty god/nogod discussions, I'll give ya that!  

Title: Re: Bloody nose guy???
Post by Paladin. on 08/18/10 at 17:41:55


262B31282130253620440 wrote:
...You guys can be very funny with the left/righty god/nogod discussions, I'll give ya that!  

They have fun discussions because they are the same.  The Radical Left and the Radical Right meet on the side of the Moon.  Never have working ideas in Earth.  And the Athesists and Thesists both have their blind beliefs.  Only Moderates and Agnostics have the truth.



Title: Re: Bloody nose guy???
Post by mick on 08/18/10 at 22:38:17


1D2C212C2924234D0 wrote:
[quote author=262B31282130253620440 link=1281736799/15#22 date=1282177439] ...You guys can be very funny with the left/righty god/nogod discussions, I'll give ya that!  

They have fun discussions because they are the same.  The Radical Left and the Radical Right meet on the side of the Moon.  Never have working ideas in Earth.  And the Athesists and Thesists both have their blind beliefs.  Only Moderates and Agnostics have the truth.


[/quote]
Agnostic ; unkown,unknowable,of or relating to the belief that the existence of any ultimate reality (as God) is unknown and unknowable.
I have no idea about moderates,perhaps you can enlighten me ?
If agnostics have the truth ,what is it ?
And my belief is not blind,I have made it a hobby of mine .,one that I realy enjoy, It is like a giant rock being lifted from my back,it seemed like my very first dose of freedom,on the other hand it was so easy to just not believe in all that religious C-rap.
Unfortinately you believers will find this out the very second of your death ,there is nothing there,just eternal sleep. The only after life you will have is the the memory of you in the people that loved you, they will all say at there Christmas toast ," And heres to dear old Dad .or uncle Paladin etc" that Sir is your after life.if they don't toast your memory they didn't like you,  that I'm sure will not be the case.
On PBS this evening Alan Alda hosted a science program that completly shot down religion in all it's forms showing how life began in Africa well over a million years ago,artifacts and tools were found all over Africa and then Ethiopia,long before Lucy.
Religion is man made,it has nothing to do with any god,christian,jewish,or muslim,bhuda,the chinese dude, and all the little asian gods,they are all man made to keep the masses in check.
Most human beings are basicly honest just because there is no god ,do you see me going out on a godless rampage killing raping,stealing ?
of corse not , for one thing it's against the law,I don't want to go to jail.
Beside I realy don't want to do that,it just isn't nice.
Hope you are feeling better Paladin.

Title: Re: Bloody nose guy???
Post by Paladin. on 08/19/10 at 06:18:49


54505A524D515C5550545C40390 wrote:
Agnostic ; unkown,unknowable,of or relating to the belief that the existence of any ultimate reality (as God) is unknown and unknowable.
I have no idea about moderates,perhaps you can enlighten me ?
If agnostics have the truth ,what is it ?
The truth is that I do not know.  I do not know that it is possible for me to know everything.  I have seen things that I cannot explain.  Can you enlighten me how I can know that every possible concept of gods is impossible?

Quote:
... not believe in all that religious C-rap.  Unfortinately you believers ... Sir is your after life.
I am not a 'believer.'  I would be extremely surprised that an 'after life' exists.  But I do not know that are not any possible of an after life.  

Quote:
...Alan Alda ...  completly shot down religion in all it's forms
OKay.  Religions are all wrong.  Truth is, things have happened to some people.  Things that no one explained.  Things that science will not touch.  Asimov once noted that mammals all live between a half and one and a half billion heart beats.  Shrews, whales, horses, whatever -- all live a billion heart beats, plus/minus a half.

So why am I alive?  I have lived over three billion heart beats.  Can you explain why?

Title: Re: Bloody nose guy???
Post by mick on 08/19/10 at 10:06:41


7E4F424F4A47402E0 wrote:
[quote author=54505A524D515C5550545C40390 link=1281736799/15#24 date=1282196297] Agnostic ; unkown,unknowable,of or relating to the belief that the existence of any ultimate reality (as God) is unknown and unknowable.
I have no idea about moderates,perhaps you can enlighten me ?
If agnostics have the truth ,what is it ?
The truth is that I do not know.  I do not know that it is possible for me to know everything.  I have seen things that I cannot explain.  Can you enlighten me how I can know that every possible concept of gods is impossible?

Quote:
... not believe in all that religious C-rap.  Unfortinately you believers ... Sir is your after life.
I am not a 'believer.'  I would be extremely surprised that an 'after life' exists.  But I do not know that are not any possible of an after life.  

Quote:
...Alan Alda ...  completly shot down religion in all it's forms
OKay.  Religions are all wrong.  Truth is, things have happened to some people.  Things that no one explained.  Things that science will not touch.  Asimov once noted that mammals all live between a half and one and a half billion heart beats.  Shrews, whales, horses, whatever -- all live a billion heart beats, plus/minus a half.

So why am I alive?  I have lived over three billion heart beats.  Can you explain why?[/quote]
luck of the draw my friend,my Dad just Died at 95 years old,his dad @ 91, My dear mother died at 58,you never can tell.
Good genes,plus great medical advances ,If I had been born a 100 years ago I would have died at 21 years old,because I had my apendix burst at 21. And just one year ago I had a triple A ,another killer ,even today 80% don't make it,I managed to get through at age 72, it;s just luck,I'm sure there are other reasons like diet,exercise,
life styles etc etc. But one thing for sure there is no possable reason to pray over or for a sick person,it has been proven time and time again
prayer does not work.Whith all the billions of people on earth,if there was a god he would not have time to spend one second with you,
Do you think he comes down and sits around laying his hands on the sick one.Nah it just don't happen,get wise,be free ,it's the American way.

Title: Re: Bloody nose guy???
Post by Paladin. on 08/19/10 at 11:57:07

Not all religions pray.  And you did not enlighten me.  Every mammal, from the least to the large, have a natural life span of one billion heartbeats, give or less a half billion.  Every mammal in nature has the same lifespan.  Except Homo Sap.  Humans pass their first billion heartbeats at about 24 years.  Homo Sap lives three - four times as long as they should.  Why?  

Title: Re: Bloody nose guy???
Post by mick on 08/19/10 at 12:11:41


0B3A373A3F32355B0 wrote:
Not all religions pray.  And you did not enlighten me.  Every mammal, from the least to the large, have a natural life span of one billion heartbeats, give or less a half billion.  Every mammal in nature has the same lifespan.  Except Homo Sap.  Humans pass their first billion heartbeats at about 24 years.  Homo Sap lives three - four times as long as they should.  Why?  

Paladin,a thousand years ago the average lifespan of a human being was 30 years old,a thousand more years ago 25 to 30,once again the priviledged lived a little longer because they didn't have to work 12 hours a day 7 days a week,as early as the mid 1800 s very few people lived passed 50.
Dogs vary quite a bit I have had a dog die at 11 years old,I have also had a dog live 19 years, so whats the difference ?
Well thats what I think,you haven't told your reason why humans live longer, I don't think we live longer than Elephants,or turtles.

Title: Re: Bloody nose guy???
Post by Paladin. on 08/19/10 at 19:18:49


484C464E514D40494C48405C250 wrote:
Paladin,a thousand years ago the average lifespan of a human being was 30 years old,a thousand more years ago 25 to 30,once again the priviledged lived a little longer because they didn't have to work 12 hours a day 7 days a week,as early as the mid 1800 s very few people lived passed 50...

Wrong...  The average lifespan was 30 or whatever, was the AVERAGE lifespan, including children.  Adults generally lived to about 70 years.  This is has been truth for over 3,000 years:
"The days of our years are threescore years and ten; and if by reason of strength they be fourscore years, yet is their strength labour and sorrow; for it is soon cut off, and we fly away." -- Psalm 90:10 (KJV)

So far it looks that you have only have believe that no possible god could exist.

Title: Re: Bloody nose guy???
Post by gerald.hughes on 08/19/10 at 19:33:00

There seems to be some confusion on  this thread.  The term life span is used when the proper term is "Life expectancy."  Life span is the limit that a human can live.  There is no evidence that life span has changed over the entire course of recorded history. ( When life expectancy was 30 years for western Europe, there were still individuals who lived into their 90's and beyond.)  The term "life expectancy" refers to the age at which half the people born in a given year are still alive. (It is not an average.)  The single factor that most influences life expectancy is infant mortality.  If you had a population where half of the newborns died during their first year of life, the life expectancy for that population would be 1 year.

Throughout history, the factors which have most dramatically affected life expectancy are maternal nutrition, and clean water.  Health mothers make healthy babies.

Title: Re: Bloody nose guy???
Post by bill67 on 08/19/10 at 19:40:20

Gods true love is the Muslims,Adam and Eve were born in Iraq right in the middle of Muslim countries,God could care less about the American Indians,Europeans,Mexicans,Asians,Africans.So if you want to go to heaven,best to go to the Muslim faith,Or you can continue barking up the wrong tree.    

Title: Re: Bloody nose guy???
Post by Paladin. on 08/19/10 at 23:56:40

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aryan_race

AHA!!  You should know that the Aryan Master Race are God's Chosen.  (As Germans as well as Albanians, Kurds, Armenians, Greeks, Latins, Balts, Celts, and Slavs.  But not Druids.)

" Princess Vespa: I am Princess Vespa, daughter of Roland, King of the Druids.
Lone Starr: Oh great. That's all we needed. A Druish princess.
Barf: Funny, she doesn't look Druish. "

Of course, from the History of World, Part I, you know that the God of the Muslims,Adam and Eve is a new idea.

"Comicus: Have you heard of this new sect, the Christians? They are a laugh riot! First of all, they are so poor...
Swiftus: How poor are they?
Comicus: Thank you! They are so poor... that they only have *one* God! "

Which comes to your "barking up the wrong tree."  The Elder Gods were overthrown by the younger gods, finally to just one.  The Elder Gods were sacred to their Groves.  If you do a search of the Bible you will find that the Groves were to be destroyed when found.

Which asks you why follow the Gods when Cthulhu is the extreme horror or evil?  (A Rhetorical question, they are Politicians)


Title: Re: Bloody nose guy???
Post by mick on 08/20/10 at 01:06:11


72434E43464B4C220 wrote:
[quote author=484C464E514D40494C48405C250 link=1281736799/15#28 date=1282245101] Paladin,a thousand years ago the average lifespan of a human being was 30 years old,a thousand more years ago 25 to 30,once again the priviledged lived a little longer because they didn't have to work 12 hours a day 7 days a week,as early as the mid 1800 s very few people lived passed 50...

Wrong...  The average lifespan was 30 or whatever, was the AVERAGE lifespan, including children.  Adults generally lived to about 70 years.  This is has been truth for over 3,000 years:
"The days of our years are threescore years and ten; and if by reason of strength they be fourscore years, yet is their strength labour and sorrow; for it is soon cut off, and we fly away." -- Psalm 90:10 (KJV)

So far it looks that you have only have believe that no possible god could exist.[/quote]
Paladin,bless your heart there really is no god ,the fact that you worship one doesn't make it so. In general I think you and alot of other Savage members are quite smart,the fact that you worship a god that does not excist and never did is also ok ,you were led by your parents to follow there belief's,  as did my mother,but not my father,he said (as I did to my 4 children) you can choose a religion after your 18 birthday, I cant choose for you becauss it a very personal thing,so I chose to not believe the bible ,and so did my sister.
and all my children, it was there choice,my two sons married Cathlics,
I daughter married a southern baptist,the other married an atheist.
The baptist and the two cathlics never go to church, since my kids are not interested the church thing just wore off ,Sunday is now Fishing day, my daughters love to fish,my two sons are fanatics about fishing,
My all American son in law is a hunter,loves to go kill things,typical christion,at least he does eat what he kills.
Our family of non believers so far have lived normal lives, we are a very close knit family,we are all in touch constantly,anyone need help we are there for each other,no one go's hungry ,no one misses a house payment, and it did happen once, we all chipped in made a couple of mortgage payments,every thing ok now.
We do not need a god ,we have each other, and we all love each other.
And we are all free of the filth you call religion.
It's a curse, it is all man made to keep women in check, just one week ago a man and a woman were stoned to death in Iran for Adultry,can you imagen in this day and age ?.............. On the news this evening
a judge in Iran was asked to ask a hospital to see if a doctor would render a person paralized  by severing his spinal cord,becauss the person he attacked became paralized as a result of that attack. These people are following the bible teachings to the letter "an eye for an eye" a tooth for a tooth,speaking of teeth a prisoner just had his teeth removed by a dentist because the person he faught with lost a few teeth.
It's all about religion,or do you guys want to cherry pick ?  take the bits out of the bible you don't like ?  I'm sorry if you cant see the bible is written by man to keep the masses in check,women in particular.
Jesus Christ guys and gals surely you must see that by now ?
Come on ,wake up,you have nothing to loose but your chains.

Title: Re: Bloody nose guy???
Post by kennycreed on 08/20/10 at 01:48:49

Your right Mick.People have been brain washed over the ages by mental defectives, who want to hold power over them, using a story book that has been rewritten time and time again over the ages, to suit there own evil needs. How people can kill and torture others in the name of some bloody superstition or other, I just can't understand,

There are hundreds of diferent languages in the world
 And a smile speaks them all

Title: Re: Bloody nose guy???
Post by mpescatori on 08/20/10 at 04:24:53

Don't you just LOVE IT when Paladin provides some tasty food for thought ?

So, I whetted my appetite and did a little research...
(quote from Dan Brown's "The Lost Symbol": " Google is not a synonim for research")

GROVES : Groves are places of worship in the Bible: Abraham prayed by hanging colored ribbons on the branches of the sacred oak tree at Mamreh. (Genesis, 18:1)

As for Princess Vespa...  :-?
I know only two Princesses Vespa,

one is Italian

http://xpatathens.com/UserFiles/Audrey_Hepburn_and_Gregory_Peck_on_Vespa_in_Roman_Holiday_trailer.jpg

the other is ... underage !!!

http://www.lapalla.it/img/Peg%20Perego/2009/RaiderPRINCESS+child.jpg

:D :D :D

Title: Re: Bloody nose guy???
Post by mick on 08/20/10 at 23:34:44

is that Peter Lawford on the pillion ? one of Englands favorite sots.

Title: Re: Bloody nose guy???
Post by Jay on 08/25/10 at 00:35:30


20242E2639252821242028344D0 wrote:
is that Peter Lawford on the pillion ? one of Englands favorite sots.


The second pic didn't come out on my puter; but if it's the first pic you're asking about, that'd be Gregory Peck. The name of the film eludes me.

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