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Title: Camera/video equipment Post by babyhog on 08/13/10 at 07:18:03 For those who take pictures and videos while riding, what kind of mounting options do you have, and what have you tried? I'd love to take some videos.... And what kind of equipment do you like? Software suggestions for editing too? |
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Title: Re: Camera/video equipment Post by Oldfeller on 08/13/10 at 08:02:30 I stuck a block of styrofoam on the top of my headlight with a rubber tie down chord with a cut-out in the styrofoam block to tightly hold the camera oriented straight ahead. Worked great until I caught a video of somebody trying to eat a dirt embankment ..... ..... now I don't do that any more ..... both BAD LUCK and evidence |
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Title: Re: Camera/video equipment Post by kevinphan on 08/13/10 at 08:05:47 You can pick up a Go-Pro and they have with a bunch of different ways to mount onto yourself or your bike. |
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Title: Re: Camera/video equipment Post by babyhog on 08/13/10 at 08:12:29 styrofoam... hmm, sounds like a logical plan, but I'll take your word for it on the bad luck... Never heard of Go-Pro, kevin, but thanks for the lead. Quick browsing looks promising. I also want to keep bow-hunting in mind. I'd love to film a hunt too, so that looks like some good options! |
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Title: Re: Camera/video equipment Post by prechermike on 08/13/10 at 08:20:26 I think someone, maybe Paladin, posted something about PVC and bolts and something to mount a camera to the handlebars. I can't remmebr and too busy/lazy to search right now. |
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Title: Re: Camera/video equipment Post by Serowbot on 08/13/10 at 08:34:51 GoPro is the camera of choice for amatuer action video... It comes with sticky mounts for your helmet and is well protected from the elements in a clear plastic shell... ... on the bad side,... it's very tiny, and has a single button cycling menu that is hard to operate or see... Here's a link... http://www.goprocamera.com/ For smooth video on a bike,... helmet mount is the best, and a camera with a wide angle lens will show less jiggle... My point and shoot camera is 25.5mm wide angle,.. the GoPro camera is even wider,...probably about 20 or 22mm... For editing,... I just use the Windows Moviemaker that is built in to Windows Xp... It's not the greatest, but it's good enough, and it's already on my computer... |
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Title: Re: Camera/video equipment Post by bill67 on 08/13/10 at 08:37:13 Take and old helmet drill hole in top but the bolts from a tri pod in the holes,A guy from our snowmobile club did that 30 years ago. |
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Title: Re: Camera/video equipment Post by Phelonius on 08/13/10 at 09:23:15 I have tried several types of camera mounts at several locations, handlebars, etc. sidecar, etc. What works best is a helmet mount. It totally isolates the camera from vibration and it looks where you look. Phelonius |
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Title: Re: Camera/video equipment Post by ALfromN.H. on 08/13/10 at 09:40:04 Here's the one I got. It was cheap and came with a bunch of mounting options. I mounted mine to my engine guard and it worked pretty good. http://helmet-camera.us/8-493964-B001A1U4AE-Oregon_Scientific_ATC_3K_Waterproof_Action_Cam_Flash_Memory_Video_Recorder_with_Web_Cam_Capabilities_Black.html Here's a sample video of me following Kel on the tail of th dragon http://vimeo.com/13852052 |
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Title: Re: Camera/video equipment Post by babyhog on 08/13/10 at 10:14:57 5C515F5F0B3D0 wrote:
AL - surely that's a typo on the size of that thing? It says: Dimensions (in): 9.9 x 2.8 x 9.8 The ATC-2K is a little cheaper, says the size of it is 2 x 2 x 4. I like it, and your video looked fine to me! Well, except for Kel being in it... ;D |
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Title: Re: Camera/video equipment Post by Oldfeller on 08/13/10 at 10:21:45 It coulda been a lot worse -- he has one with me ugling up the scenery |
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Title: Re: Camera/video equipment Post by ALfromN.H. on 08/13/10 at 11:09:38 7F7C7D707268110 wrote:
AL - surely that's a typo on the size of that thing? It says: Dimensions (in): 9.9 x 2.8 x 9.8 The ATC-2K is a little cheaper, says the size of it is 2 x 2 x 4. I like it, and your video looked fine to me! Well, except for Kel being in it... ;D[/quote] Actually I think mine is the atc-2. the 2x2 sounds about right. |
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Title: Re: Camera/video equipment Post by jef.savage on 08/13/10 at 11:56:54 looking at the pics makes me think the big dimensions are referring to the package. |
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Title: Re: Camera/video equipment Post by CeliaMarie on 08/13/10 at 15:29:30 yay, piglet! Thanks! |
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Title: Re: Camera/video equipment Post by John_D FSO on 08/16/10 at 14:35:35 53585D5D0706310 wrote:
Sorry, but I think my helmet is the absolute last thing I'd be modifying like that. Drilling holes in it could weaken it, and if the unthinkable happens, I want the best protection on my noggin that I can get! :D |
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Title: Re: Camera/video equipment Post by LANCER on 08/16/10 at 14:45:40 I got one from the same place Al did; compact and like he said, several mounting options. The model I got, the cheap one, is 2gb capable. I assume the more expensive can use larger storage chips |
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Title: Re: Camera/video equipment Post by babyhog on 08/16/10 at 17:31:41 I actually bought this one on ebay yesterday. Didn't want to spend a fortune, not knowing if I'd even use it or like to use it, and this guy is just starting out, so he had some listed starting at 99 cents! I ended up winning one for less than $20, including $9 shipping!! So I'm gonna give it a try. It also has all the mounting capabilities, including a handlebar mount and a little stand I can hook to my tree-stand and try it while hunting too! I'll post an update after I get it and try it out. Its not the most hi-tech, but I think it will be sufficient. We'll see. http://www.tandemcamera.com/details.php?prod_id=1&cat_id=1 http://www.tandemcamera.com/admin/uploads/thumb135/Black2.jpg |
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Title: Re: Camera/video equipment Post by ALfromN.H. on 08/16/10 at 18:49:54 looks like a good deal. let us know if you like it after you test it out. |
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Title: Re: Camera/video equipment Post by bill67 on 08/16/10 at 18:55:24 1007060C0701095550535250620 wrote:
Sorry, but I think my helmet is the absolute last thing I'd be modifying like that. Drilling holes in it could weaken it, and if the unthinkable happens, I want the best protection on my noggin that I can get! :D[/quote] Your only drilling one 1/4 inch hole and when you put the bolt in it your plugging the hole,I don't think it would weaken it much at all. |
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Title: Re: Camera/video equipment Post by Hashbrown on 08/16/10 at 23:18:09 313A3F3F6564530 wrote:
Sorry, but I think my helmet is the absolute last thing I'd be modifying like that. Drilling holes in it could weaken it, and if the unthinkable happens, I want the best protection on my noggin that I can get! :D[/quote] Your only drilling one 1/4 inch hole and when you put the bolt in it your plugging the hole,I don't think it would weaken it much at all.[/quote] in his defense bill, states with strict helmet laws have to have it DOT approved and stateys are cracking down on that. by drilling u can in fact negate the DOT approval and run the risk of getting pulled over. Unless u live in NH of course ;D |
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Title: Re: Camera/video equipment Post by John_D FSO on 08/17/10 at 00:55:35 6D44564D47574A524B250 wrote:
Sorry, but I think my helmet is the absolute last thing I'd be modifying like that. Drilling holes in it could weaken it, and if the unthinkable happens, I want the best protection on my noggin that I can get! :D[/quote] Your only drilling one 1/4 inch hole and when you put the bolt in it your plugging the hole,I don't think it would weaken it much at all.[/quote] in his defense bill, states with strict helmet laws have to have it DOT approved and stateys are cracking down on that. by drilling u can in fact negate the DOT approval and run the risk of getting pulled over. Unless u live in NH of course ;D [/quote] Plus, there's always the possibility that a crack could spider out from that, if impacted at the right angle. Kinda like a windshield crack starting from one tiny chip. |
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Title: Re: Camera/video equipment Post by bill67 on 08/17/10 at 04:25:12 A around hole isn't a chip or crack. |
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Title: Re: Camera/video equipment Post by babyhog on 08/17/10 at 05:38:30 Yea, I ain't puttin' no kind of hole in my brand new helmet, nor my old one for that matter! I was looking at where to mount it this morning while riding to work. I'm thinking one of the front signal stems would be an awesome place... maybe... The center of the handlebars is gonna have the camera looking right at the bottom of my windshield. Even if I can get it aimed through the windshield, it bounces a bit and I bet that would blur the video. Will probably try on my body too. AL, where on the side of your bike did you mount yours? |
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Title: Re: Camera/video equipment Post by ALfromN.H. on 08/17/10 at 06:02:58 I 1st tried mounting it to the handlebars but it aims right at the chrome bar on the windshield. So I tried it on the saddlebag. That would have been okay except my hard bags tend to vibrate alot so the video wasn't very good. So next i tried it mounted to the side of my sissybar. That was alot more stable but I got a nice video of my back and not much else. so finally I mounted it to the engine guard and that worked pretty good. As you could see by the video, you can only really see the left hand turns of the bike in front of me but it still worked pretty good. Here's where i mounted it. http://p1.bikepics.com/pics/2010/08/17/bikepics-2041304-800.jpg http://p1.bikepics.com/pics/2010/08/17/bikepics-2041303-800.jpg |
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Title: Re: Camera/video equipment Post by babyhog on 08/17/10 at 06:28:00 Nice, thanks AL, and a picture says a thousand words! I've got the same engine guard, so that should be a good spot for me too. I have O-ring pegs, so I might even be able to scoot it out there. My windshield doesn't have the chrome bar, but it has "Spit Fire" in red letters across the spot where I think the camera would aim on the handlebars. I got an email that the camera was shipped yesterday, but no tracking dammit! I can't wait! |
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Title: Re: Camera/video equipment Post by sjaskow on 08/17/10 at 10:36:44 The guys on another bike board I frequent have been going ga-ga over these http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190388697155&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT. They tend to velcro them to helmets and rear fenders. I don't have any personal experience with them though. |
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Title: Re: Camera/video equipment Post by babyhog on 08/17/10 at 10:41:18 3C252E3C2420384F0 wrote:
Wow, for less than 10 bucks, might have to try that little thing. |
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Title: Re: Camera/video equipment Post by Serowbot on 08/17/10 at 11:08:02 425B50425A5E46310 wrote:
Wow!... I just ordered one... ;D... |
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Title: Re: Camera/video equipment Post by babyhog on 08/17/10 at 13:18:55 1006110C14010C17630 wrote:
Wow!... I just ordered one... ;D...[/quote] Good, you can be the guinea pig for that one.... ;D |
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Title: Re: Camera/video equipment Post by babyhog on 08/18/10 at 17:53:11 Camera came in the mail today. Wow, its small! About as big around as a quarter, and as long as the palm of my hand. I did a few test recordings. There is no aim, but its not too difficult to aim. Like pointing a flashlight. The video is wonderful! I went for a drive to pick up dinner (couldn't take the bike) but it came with a suction mount, so I stuck it on my car windshield. The sound was good with my tests at home, but not good in the car. I don't know if the air blowing was moving across the camera mic or what, but it was horrible. Even when I stopped at red lights, the sound was still bad, like wind blowing, so it wasn't my window being down. Hopefully that will be better on the bike, maybe if I put it behind my windshield. It was fine in the tests at home. Dogs barking, TV on, voices, etc. sounded fine. One button to start/stop. 4 little indicator light to show what function you are in. Blue=power on. Green flashes while recording. Red when charging, flashes when battery is low. Yellow is standby mode. Pretty simple. Other than the sound, other minor complaints -- start/stop button is in the middle, which interferes with the rubber strap that wraps around it to mount on the handlebar (or wherever, but I think the handlebar is gonna be fine). I'm going to have to move the strap back to the back of the camera, so hopefully that will still be stable/safe enough. Will see. Other than that, a cap screws on the back end, like a flashlight, but that is where the power button is, and the mini-SD card goes, and the USB connection. I wish the power button was on the outside, so it would be easier to turn on and off to conserve battery while not filming. Acceptable complaints in my book, for the price and the video quality. So far, I'm pleased.... |
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Title: Re: Camera/video equipment Post by bill67 on 08/18/10 at 18:56:55 You might put some rubber foam over were the mic is, even maybe some kind of cloth,then suction it on top of your helmet,No it might blow off. |
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Title: Re: Camera/video equipment Post by Serowbot on 08/18/10 at 19:40:57 Sound will likely be even worse on the bike... I tried taping over the mic hole, and that didn't work... Maybe cloth or foam if you can, like Bill said... Looking forward to video... ;)... |
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Title: Re: Camera/video equipment Post by kimchris1 on 08/19/10 at 09:25:47 Hey Piglet, we use our mini cam corder on the bikes. Hubby has a mount on his handle bars. It stays steady and we have used it to on a few trips around the areas. I will ask when he comes home later what the software he uses for editing. I can't wait to see the video's of your adventures on the bike. :) kim |
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Title: Re: Camera/video equipment Post by J2 on 08/19/10 at 12:34:26 The moderator of the "Battle Scooters" forum on advrider.com is what is known in the industry as a "shooter." Her handle is photog. She is a videographer (photo journalist) and also an MSF instructor. You might want to send her a private message on that site ... or ... I have her e-mail address. If you are interested in that, I will ask her permission to send it to you in a private message. |
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Title: Re: Camera/video equipment Post by babyhog on 08/19/10 at 12:38:49 027A480 wrote:
Thanks J2, but I'm just messin' around with the video stuff. She's probably way too hi tech for the piddly stuff I want to do. If I get to liking it and decide to invest more time/effort/MONEY into it, I'll check out that site. But I appreciate the thought! |
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Title: Re: Camera/video equipment Post by EJID on 09/02/10 at 12:47:14 Just curious if you ever got this video stuff worked out and how you like the camera. 8-) |
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Title: Re: Camera/video equipment Post by babyhog on 09/03/10 at 19:10:50 I did, and I've taken some good ones, just haven't had time to do any editing. Been working on the son's bike and working my buttox off at work. I hate when work gets in the way of my fun stuff. LOL 8-) I rode to work most of the week, and had two days where the sun was directly at my back, so my shadow is riding directly in front of me. I'll post it as soon as I can get it to music and such... The Tandem camera that I bought cheap is working well though. I'm happy with the video quality. I've tried a few different mounting spots. I want to make some kind of strap to put around my brake reservoir, to get the camera out past my windshield. I think it would be a great spot. The windshield reflects a little, not terribly, but enough to bug me a bit. Maybe I'll get some stuff done with it this weekend. |
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Title: Re: Camera/video equipment Post by verslagen1 on 09/03/10 at 19:47:08 lift the windshield a little and put it on top of the headlight. |
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Title: Re: Camera/video equipment Post by SimonTuffGuy on 09/10/10 at 19:33:22 Saw GoPro listed on the first page... It's a little expensive, but it a GREAT camera. I want to get one to swap between the bikes, Jeep, and Festiva as needed. |
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Title: Re: Camera/video equipment Post by Ed L. on 09/10/10 at 19:44:11 I rigged up a bracket that mounted on the windscreen mounts to hold a small digital camera that shoots videos. The big problem was the wind noise getting picked up by the mic. I ended up putting a band aid over the mic hole in the camera which helped a lot. Gotta dig that setup out of the garage and give it another try. I don't use the camera with the windshield cause shooting through the plastic really degrades the video. |
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Title: Re: Camera/video equipment Post by babyhog on 09/21/10 at 11:04:56 ok, here's a boring little video I put together, just part of my every day ride to work. I liked that it was sunny and I was riding with my shadow. The camera is still behind my windshield, so please excuse the vibrations and lack of crispness... But the cheap little camera works pretty well overall. I'll take more after I figure out a better mounting option. Ed L -- if you have pics, I'd be interested in seeing your setup. http://i757.photobucket.com/albums/xx211/babyhog/Videos/th_proj1a_0001.jpg (http://s757.photobucket.com/albums/xx211/babyhog/Videos/?action=view¤t=proj1a_0001.mp4) |
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Title: Re: Camera/video equipment Post by gerald.hughes on 09/21/10 at 11:14:48 I would say that it is a terrific debut. You have a future in video ahead of you Look forward to seeing more. |
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Title: Re: Camera/video equipment Post by BarneyBWilde on 09/21/10 at 11:25:19 Good post, thats awesome! |
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Title: Re: Camera/video equipment Post by Serowbot on 09/21/10 at 11:36:27 Very nice, Piglet!... The shadow work is great, and I like the choice of music... That work ride looks like a nice way to start out the day... Looking forward to more.... ;)... |
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Title: Re: Camera/video equipment Post by bill67 on 09/21/10 at 13:38:47 That was nice,I think the dragon bunch would have trouble keeping up to you. |
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Title: Re: Camera/video equipment Post by babyhog on 09/21/10 at 14:51:14 Thanks guys. Yep, Boondocks... that's me! lol (Dragon NOT!) Tried something different on the ride home. Zip-tied the holder to my brake reservoir. The camera was pointing too far skyward, so I stuck a piece of a stick under the back of it, but it bounced alot! So I stopped, pulled out the stick, then tried a couple quarters shoved under it to try to give it more angle and it still wasn't good. When I got home, I strapped it to my right front turn signal stem. Might just work there. If I got out later, I'll try it. |
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Title: Re: Camera/video equipment Post by verslagen1 on 09/21/10 at 20:15:50 Great, don't worry about keeping up with the dragon bunch, you're still a lot faster than bill shooters couch. |
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Title: Re: Camera/video equipment Post by CeliaMarie on 09/22/10 at 07:26:39 did you get those head shots of yourself, Piglet? |
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Title: Re: Camera/video equipment Post by jef.savage on 09/22/10 at 07:44:41 Very cool vid, Piglet. |
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Title: Re: Camera/video equipment Post by babyhog on 09/22/10 at 07:47:10 42646D68604C60736864010 wrote:
Yep, just turned the camera around for one of the trips. And Celia, if you are still looking for buckhorns, check my post in The Marketplace. I'm done with my parts bike. ;) |
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Title: Re: Camera/video equipment Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/22/10 at 08:37:20 Piglet, thats a nice ride. I like the fact theres industry all along the way. Not International corporations, local owned stuff.. aww yea.. Try to not allow yourself to ever Feel bored driving that same stretch. Dont get lulled into believing nothing can happen today, cuz youve been down that road so many times & nothing happened.. stay alert. |
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Title: Re: Camera/video equipment Post by babyhog on 09/22/10 at 09:11:47 2A353334292E1F2F1F27353972400 wrote:
Thanks for caring man, but I would never let my guard down on that road. Lots of angled side streets that people whip out of like they be crazy! And the peak of the hill that I cross, has a busy cross-road, right at the peak, and its in a bit of a curve. Its hard to pull out from those side roads, so I always slow down, though many don't. And then there's the deer, etc, etc..... yea, never a dull moment on that road, fer shure. I just said boring because its not all pretty/scenic/etc. Yet... Once the trees start changing colors, it will be prettier. |
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Title: Re: Camera/video equipment Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/22/10 at 13:02:44 has a busy cross-road, right at the peak, and its in a bit of a curve Yikes! A Perma-Pucker spot. That'll keep ya awake. |
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Title: Re: Camera/video equipment Post by Tanker2Biker on 09/22/10 at 15:23:04 Great video. Thanks for sharing. I have to ask, what is that item hanging on the bottom of the left side of your helmet? You can see something there in the head shots. |
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Title: Re: Camera/video equipment Post by kimchris1 on 09/22/10 at 19:30:42 Nice video Piglet. For the 1st time in 6mths I felt like I was on a bike again. Keep the video's coming. :) kim |
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Title: Re: Camera/video equipment Post by babyhog on 09/22/10 at 20:10:11 47727D7876612325130 wrote:
Its my communication system - Cardo Scala Rider. Hubby and I can talk to each other while riding. It also has FM radio, and bluetooth connection to cell phone. |
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Title: Re: Camera/video equipment Post by babyhog on 09/22/10 at 20:12:12 7D7F7B757E647F6527160 wrote:
Well thanks, that makes me feel good, but don't worry, you'll be back in the saddle again soon. :D |
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Title: Re: Camera/video equipment Post by Serowbot on 09/23/10 at 18:57:15 Okay,... I've been playing with my new $1.49 keychain video camera ($16.00 when you add shipping and a 4gig mini SD card from Amazon)...(This camera eats a Gig of memory every 10 minutes, so buy at least a 4 gig card)...(half hour to a an hour of running time on a charge from the built-in lithium battery)...)... Available here... http://cgi.ebay.com/Mini-Car-Key-Chain-Camera-DVR-Covert-Video-Recorder-New-/390235510041?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5adbd95519 http://i600.photobucket.com/albums/tt82/serowbot/1070-2.jpg?t=1285293154 ... and I noticed this weird, underwater effect when it's hard mounted to the handlebars... Here's a short video comparison of handlebar mount, and helmet mount... First is the handle mount, then the helmet... [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hbw2JMmVj7Y[/media] ... and here's an exciting video, I call ... "Bot returns a video in a ratty T-shirt"... :-?... (... again demonstrating the underwater vibration effect)... [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6M6LbQMNcR4[/media] |
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Title: Re: Camera/video equipment Post by bill67 on 09/23/10 at 19:09:57 The nice thing about it on the helmet if you see something off to the side you can get it. |
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Title: Re: Camera/video equipment Post by babyhog on 09/23/10 at 20:25:54 Interesting. You think maybe the heat could be causing the "underwater" effect? And I bet you go to bed with that helmet on, don't you? ;) (Oh, you need to fix the date on the camera too... haha) |
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Title: Re: Camera/video equipment Post by Serowbot on 09/23/10 at 22:34:26 No, not the heat.... turn off the motor, and the effect goes away... I love my helmet... :-*... |
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Title: Re: Camera/video equipment Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/24/10 at 04:12:11 Im hangin on to the flyscreen mounts from the Guzzi. They clamp onto the bars & I Think thers a decent camera mount in there somewhere. Have to do some cutting & threading, but,, Im up for that, one day, maybe. |
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Title: Re: Camera/video equipment Post by babyhog on 09/24/10 at 06:41:40 Hey Bot, what's the fps capture rate on the little key chain camera? And it didn't look to me like you were swimming while walking. While the bike was sitting still, it looked ok. I just saw the waves when the bike was moving. Will have to re-watch later, can't Youtube at work anymore..... dammit. I tried a couple different mounting spots yesterday. This camera came with a suction cup and a 4" post that screws into the suction cup. I zip-tied the post (without the suction cup) to the base leg of my right mirror, so the angle around the windshield was good, the clarity was good, but it was a bit shaky over about 45 mph. Then I used the handlebar mount, but strapped it to my front signal stems. Left signal was pretty good, clear, stable up to about 50 also, but watching the video didn't "feel" like riding. I guess it was too far forward on the bike. I still haven't tried Al's spot on the highway bar. Will do that next. And I'm still trying to figure out a helmet mount, or somewhere on my body. |
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