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Message started by ralfyguy on 08/07/10 at 10:52:27

Title: My Savage S40 Video
Post by ralfyguy on 08/07/10 at 10:52:27

Exhaust sound and engine sound after valves adjustment.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qHtGnULMvg

Title: Re: My Savage S40 Video
Post by ero4444 on 08/07/10 at 11:29:23

Thanks a lot - now I wonder if I have too much ticking - I don't hear ANY in your clip.  Mine is only at 2900 miles but at 9 years old I have to wonder what normal is.  I may ride it to work for a guy with some valve adjustment experience to listen to it.

I dread opening it up, like maybe I won't be able to put it back together.  Nobody around me has a Savage and not many have carbs either.   The few MC shops I have talked to, don't give me a good feeling.

Title: Re: My Savage S40 Video
Post by ralfyguy on 08/07/10 at 12:08:36

It's ticking a little, but it's more of a lashing from the cam actuating the rocker arms. It has to make a little noise, otherwise it's too tight. That sound was with the engine cold. Once it gets hot it's more noisy. That is normal as the parts expand with temperature. On cold start it sounds like it has modern hydraulic valve lifters. I set the gaps at 0.035". Recommended is between 0.003" and 0.005". I like it a little on the tight side. My engine has 13,400 miles down and runs like new. At 1,000 miles after the oil change it is still almost to the top mark on the sight glass. I change oil every 1,500 miles, I don't care if it's recommended to go 3,000 with it. It's just 20 bux. That oil gets dark quickly, and after 1,500 miles it looks like it shouldn't be in there anymore. It uses very very little oil. I once tried to see how much it takes to top it off, and it was a shot glass full. So that is virtually nothing, considered it sees lots of high rpm and high speeds on the superslab. The other day I rode with my wife, about a 80 mile round trip with speeds around 85mph most of the time, and I couldn't see any additional oil consumption. I love this engine. The only thing it does it oozes oil from the valve cover around the spark plug, but I put some high temp sealant in the gap from the outside and it's dry so far. I don't wanna pull the cover off. There was gray sealant before and some of it fell out and that is where it leaked. The bolts were tight so I don't know why it fell out.

Title: Re: My Savage S40 Video
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Title: Re: My Savage S40 Video
Post by Routy on 08/08/10 at 05:11:18

Quote:
On cold start it sounds like it has modern hydraulic valve lifters. I set the gaps at 0.035". Recommended is between 0.003" and 0.005".
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Frightening at best !
Can we at least hope that all those zeros should have been behind that decimal point ?? :o

Title: Re: My Savage S40 Video
Post by ralfyguy on 08/08/10 at 07:42:28

0.0035"

Title: Re: My Savage S40 Video
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/08/10 at 07:58:52

Once it gets hot it's more noisy. That is normal as the parts expand with temperature.


Well, lets think about that a bit. Yes, as parts heat up, they change sizes. Things like valve stems grow longer. Thats why exhaust valves have a bigger gap then intakes, because they get hotter & grow longer. The gaps close up some, thats why we MUST have gaps when the engine is cold, or when the valves get hot &^ grow, then they wouldnt close all the way & theyd burn,


If its noisier when its hot, it isnt because the gaps got bigger.

Title: Re: My Savage S40 Video
Post by ralfyguy on 08/08/10 at 08:54:33

Then why is the gaps to be set the same for intake and exhaust on the Savage?

Title: Re: My Savage S40 Video
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/08/10 at 18:45:46

Sorry, forgot about that one. The Kawasaki has different settings.. I just got done with that a week ago.


Title: Re: My Savage S40 Video
Post by Routy on 08/08/10 at 22:05:10

The intake likely could be less clearance than the exhaust, but their probably using process of simplificaion ? And I'd think the thinner oil is why the engine is noisier when hot.


52414C4659475559200 wrote:
Then why is the gaps to be set the same for intake and exhaust on the Savage?


Title: Re: My Savage S40 Video
Post by ralfyguy on 08/09/10 at 04:37:53


28273D263A3C2F2D252B3C4E0 wrote:
The intake likely could be less clearance than the exhaust, but their probably using process of simplificaion ? And I'd think the thinner oil is why the engine is noisier when hot.

[quote author=52414C4659475559200 link=1281203548/0#7 date=1281282873]Then why is the gaps to be set the same for intake and exhaust on the Savage?

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Yes when I run 10W-40 the engine is more noisy when hot. That's why I run 20W-50 in the hot summer here.

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