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Message started by bobber_prjct_2010 on 08/03/10 at 20:40:37

Title: Rear brake adjustment question:
Post by bobber_prjct_2010 on 08/03/10 at 20:40:37

Frustrated and feel like an idiot...

So, is there any other place to adjust the rear brake tension besides the screw at end of the brake cable?  I've tightened and loosened all the way and it's still sloppy as heck.  I tried searching for this in the "search" section but couldn't find any info.  Please help.  Thanks!

Title: Re: Rear brake adjustment question:
Post by verslagen1 on 08/03/10 at 21:01:15

did you just have the rear wheel off?

maybe you didn't put the swingarm tab in the brake hub slot correctly.

Title: Re: Rear brake adjustment question:
Post by Routy on 08/04/10 at 05:35:47

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and it's still sloppy as heck.
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Thats a swingin description....
Does the brake work or don't it ?

There is no other adjustment, except for the positioning of the brake pedal to match your foot position.
There is an adjustment for the stoplite switch however, which is adjusted only after the brake adjustment is correct, and then only if needed to make the stoplite work correctly in conjunction w/ the brake pedal.

Title: Re: Rear brake adjustment question:
Post by bobber_prjct_2010 on 08/04/10 at 06:23:57

I did have the rear wheel off recently.  I put new brake pads in, new tires, etc.  You mentioned the swing arm tab?  I'm assuming that is the little spring/coil that fits into the hub?  I'm positive that I got that into place correctly.  

After installing the new brake pads/shoes, should I have re-installed the swing arm in a direction that is directly up and down...maybe intstalled it more pointing towards the rear of the bike to allow for more tension on the pedal?  

Thanks for the help.  

Title: Re: Rear brake adjustment question:
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/04/10 at 06:50:35

You know the arm on the brakes on a bicycle that hooks to thestrap that goes around the frame of the bike, right? The bikes with the coaster brakes, not hand brakes, okay? Something has to hold the brake shoes when the brakes are used, or theyll just go round in a circle. Theres an arm on the brake shoe holder with a slot in it that slips up on atab on the inside of the swingarm.

Title: Re: Rear brake adjustment question:
Post by Charon on 08/04/10 at 07:13:03

Hard to believe you took it apart without making notes or taking some digital pictures to aid in reassembly. I suggest you go find another Savage and actually LOOK at how it goes together. Or, perish the thought, you could actually BUY a Clymer manual and follow the directions. Don't do the "free download" because that is literally stealing money from the author.

Title: Re: Rear brake adjustment question:
Post by Bubba on 08/04/10 at 07:32:10

Bobber, when you reinstall the wheel on the right side of the bike there is a long black arm that is part of the frame (it's what the wheel attaches to) that is your swingarm (one on each side of the bike). The right side of the swingarm has a welded black tab on it, the brake hub has a raised notched area on it (like an arm), those have to be slid together otherwise don't ride the bike!!!
if that is all good then the actual brake arm (what the cable attaches to at the brake drum) should be in a position that is between the 2 scribe marks on the right of the brake drum...

Title: Re: Rear brake adjustment question:
Post by Routy on 08/04/10 at 07:43:36

The only way to get off the hook here, is tell us that someone else took it apart. Otherwise you have commited the unpardonable ! :(


3E39303B2E66646464540 wrote:
I did have the rear wheel off recently.  I put new brake pads in, new tires, etc.  You mentioned the swing arm tab?  I'm assuming that is the little spring/coil that fits into the hub?  I'm positive that I got that into place correctly.  

After installing the new brake pads/shoes, should I have re-installed the swing arm in a direction that is directly up and down...maybe intstalled it more pointing towards the rear of the bike to allow for more tension on the pedal?  

Thanks for the help.  


Title: Re: Rear brake adjustment question:
Post by bobber_prjct_2010 on 08/04/10 at 08:49:21

Ok, my last post should have said "BRAKE ARM" instead of swing arm.  I know what the swing arm is.  I hadn't had my coffee yet this morning.

Routy - Thanks for the insight.  Moving forward, just so everyone knows....someone else took the bike apart.   ;)

Bubba - Thanks for your insight as well.  That is all I was looking for.  I just need to put the brake arm between the 2 scribe marks on the drum.

Charon - I'll keep that in mind...

Justin_0 - Thanks.  I'm not sure what I was thinking when someone said swing arm "tab".  I know what the swing arm is, but haven't heard the term swing arm tab.  If that is the proper term for it, my bad.  Brake drum and swing arm tab are good to go.

Thanks for everyone's help.  I'm sure I just need to adjust the BRAKE ARM ...not the swing arm.   ::)     I'm not an idiot.  I promise.

Title: Re: Rear brake adjustment question:
Post by verslagen1 on 08/04/10 at 08:52:44


0A0D040F1A52505050600 wrote:
I'm not an idiot.  I promise.

What?!? you think you're better than us?   ;D

Title: Re: Rear brake adjustment question:
Post by Bubba on 08/04/10 at 09:01:24


42514647585553515A05340 wrote:
[quote author=0A0D040F1A52505050600 link=1280893237/0#8 date=1280936961] I'm not an idiot.  I promise.

What?!? you think you're better than us?   ;D[/quote]

+1... ;D everyone here is confused at one time or another...
P.S. the brake arm should be lined up to the scribe mark towards the front of the bike...

Title: Re: Rear brake adjustment question:
Post by bobber_prjct_2010 on 08/04/10 at 09:13:44

Bubba - right now, it's lined directly with the scribe mark towards the front of the bike.  Oh well....I'll figure it out.  

Am I being too picky about the brake feel?  To me, it should be tighter feeling that it is right now.  I really have to crank down on it to get a response.  Don't get me wrong, it works, it's just not at stiff as I'd like.  

How tight does your brake feel?  Not that you'd want to, but are you able to lock up your rear brake?  I don't think I could even if I had to...

Anyways...

Title: Re: Rear brake adjustment question:
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/04/10 at 09:18:17

How far can you move the arm onthe brake drum by hand?

Title: Re: Rear brake adjustment question:
Post by bill67 on 08/04/10 at 09:18:58

Brake petals are kind of stiff,But I think thats the way they should be.

Title: Re: Rear brake adjustment question:
Post by Bubba on 08/04/10 at 09:22:32

When I got my bike the brake arm mark was actually in front of the scribe mark.
I replaced both ft and rear pads when I got new tires. I lined up the scribe marks to the way it was supposed to be.
Right now, I have the cable tightened pretty close it it's limit and the brake still feels kinda mushy...I can lock it up if I stomp on it but may set the arm forward a bit just to get back a more solid feel to it.

I don't want it too tight just cuz I don't want the rear rubbing constantly against the drum. The drum was full of brake dust when I did the replacement and it squealed like a banshee...

Anyone else want to chime in???

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