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Title: S40 on the freeway, for long drives...... Post by musicdorian on 07/30/10 at 14:05:27 OK dudes, I talked to a service manager, who in all sincerity, told me that the S40 will have it's engine lifespan reduced by commuting on the freeway for lengthy distances (he mentioned a case where a guy commuted 90 miles, a day, round trip.) He said that the engine works too hard at freeway speeds, and that this bike was designed for lower speed (AKA around town.) I told him that I didn't even shift into 5th gear until I got up around 60-65 mph, so why wouldn't this bike be capable of lenthy freeway rides, with ease? I mentioned that the suspension and weight of the bike would be more of a limiting use than engine capability. Please chime in on this one. I could be totally wrong, but it seems to me that this bike is perfectly capable of 65 mph journeys on the highway. I'm not interested in getting into contest with this service manager. He simply told me his sincere opinion. I'd like to find out for myself, and for him (if he is interested) if there is any validity to his position on this issue. I'll look forward to you'all's opinions on this one. Thank yeeeew ! |
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Title: Re: S40 on the freeway, for long drives...... Post by Hashbrown on 07/30/10 at 14:25:42 its possible i guess, but if you take good care of her with regular maintenences you should be fine. i know those issues were with the 80's models but with the 5 gear i think you would be fine. plus there are plenty of people with savages that have over 20k miles and are running fine...lets face it you realy dont ride 20k miles around town. not sure if the service manager gets any bumps for selling you into somthing more expensive. |
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Title: Re: S40 on the freeway, for long drives...... Post by bill67 on 07/30/10 at 14:43:25 There does seem to be more trouble with this bike than other Jap bikes even smaller cc bikes I don't think your service guy is lying to you It is more of a backroad bike,One thing I think it turns more rpm than it should for freeway driving. |
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Title: Re: S40 on the freeway, for long drives...... Post by verslagen1 on 07/30/10 at 14:58:02 My daily commute consists of a 25 mile blitz on the superslab. About 1/3 is 30 to 50 mph balence at traffic speeds. ;D I have a '96 that I got at 16k miles and ran it to 46k. cam chain wear to fully extended at 22k, verslavied and getting there at 46k. clutch cam failure. debating rebuild or repair and continue, but definitely going to replace the cam chain. Now riding a '02 engine in a '88 frame. verslavied at ~20k, now about 33k. Am I maxed out? no. On a 80° day, I'll measure the oil temp when I get home, 175° is typical. |
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Title: Re: S40 on the freeway, for long drives...... Post by Routy on 07/30/10 at 15:53:02 Hummmmmm, been here a year and all I've read is how....for the most part, this is one of the more dependable motorcycles around. Will they run longer at 50mph than at 75 ?? Thats a no brainer ! And you show me 1 engine that won't ! You can't do it. Believe anything you want, but by now, I know several people that put these bikes on the freeways every day, and in reality, I believe they are more dependable than some of the most popular bikes on the road today. |
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Title: Re: S40 on the freeway, for long drives...... Post by bill67 on 07/30/10 at 16:01:17 The trouble am talking about is what I hear on here. |
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Title: Re: S40 on the freeway, for long drives...... Post by Paladin. on 07/30/10 at 17:11:15 I have done 570 miles in a day, 510 miles the second day. That was on a tour. Three years ago and the bike is still running. The LS650 does JUST FINE doing 65-70 mph on the superslab. But I do admit I only have 30,000 miles. Actually I understand that riding less than 5 mile rides are much harder in an engine's life. I figure I have a good five-ten years left for my Savage. Not to mention that *IF* I do and kill it, I can get a good used low mile S40 for only about $3K. Lets say you do that 90 mile commute, 25,000 year. Get low mile used S40's, about $3,000. Compare with a C90, about $12,000. Ride four S40's burn out 50-100K miles, compare with 200K-400K miles for one C90. Not to mention I get 65 mpg versus about 50 mpg on the C90. It is cheaper four S40s for one C90. |
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Title: Re: S40 on the freeway, for long drives...... Post by bill67 on 07/30/10 at 17:51:28 I have a 1500 Suzuki and and s40. Going down the freeway on the 1500 at 80mph is like going down the freeway at 40 mph on the s40. You get what you pay for its been that way as long as I can remember. Just remember this is a s40 forum and a lot of people have never ridden a bigger bike for any length of time,The s40 is not a freeway bike its a back rode bike very good at slow speeds.I had a 6 cylinder gold wing before the 1500 Suzuki for 5 years. |
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Title: Re: S40 on the freeway, for long drives...... Post by Paladin. on 07/30/10 at 18:47:17 I have driven big heavy freeway automobiles. I have driven Interstates on AirCool VWs and Pintos. Perfer small. Same with motorcycles. I do not need a $10K+ 600+ pound land yacht to know I don't want one. |
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Title: Re: S40 on the freeway, for long drives...... Post by LANCER on 07/30/10 at 18:48:25 there is nothing wrong with a 650cc bike running on the hiway at 4500 rpm for hours on end. tune & jet the carb correctly keep good oil in it adjust valves, check brakes good tires regular maintenance stuff and it will run just fine I am constantly amazed at the people in a dealership who think anything less than 1 liter (except for sport bikes) is a virtual training bike for kids or small women. They were not born yet when the 650's ruled the roads Have you ever seen anything in the literature that comes with the bike when purchased new from a dealershlip that says to AVOID THE HIWAY ... DANGER IF RIDEN FASTER THAN 65 MPH ... VOIDS WARRANTY? ? ? I have not seen it ......have you ? The next time some guy at the dealership says this bike is not capable of hiway riding, ask him to show you the factory book that says it. |
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Title: Re: S40 on the freeway, for long drives...... Post by bill67 on 07/30/10 at 18:53:01 My first bike was a Yamaha 200 2 cycle I ran down the freeway with that,Back in the 50s when the 650 was common the speed limit was 60mph and most people drove 55 mph. |
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Title: Re: S40 on the freeway, for long drives...... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/30/10 at 18:57:06 Ive yet to see an engine that went to crap if it was operated at no more than 65 or 70% max performance. Run anything wide open, or too close to it,too long, & getready for an ugly ending. Asstated above, take care of its needs, do the maintenance, run it hauling a reasonable load at an RPM that isnt too close to its max, & itll hang in there. Its not an expensive or extra well done piece of machinery. To expect it to run long, hard miles at high speeds & need the maintenance of a highway type machine, like a BMW, is to fail to acknowledge thefacts. |
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Title: Re: S40 on the freeway, for long drives...... Post by bill67 on 07/30/10 at 19:02:50 Max speed seems to be around 90 mph, 66 2/3 of max power would the be 60mph,So folks don't go over 60mph to make it last.Thats what I've been trying to tell you!!! >:( >:( >:( >:( |
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Title: Re: S40 on the freeway, for long drives...... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/30/10 at 19:07:31 Taller than stock rear tire, 65 mph otta be in the bal park, with runs to 70 for a while. Just look at the duty cycle on a HarborFreight air compressor. You cant biuy a 130$ compressor & expect to run a body shop off of it, itll burn up. |
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Title: Re: S40 on the freeway, for long drives...... Post by bill67 on 07/30/10 at 19:09:24 5B444245585F6E5E6E56444803310 wrote:
+1 JOG |
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Title: Re: S40 on the freeway, for long drives...... Post by stinger on 08/01/10 at 00:28:38 what a load of crap he gave you. i have 42,000 miles on my 02, more than half of the miles have been at freeway speed. My bike is as tight as the day I bought it. I do not try and push it to its farthest limits but I find 70 to maybe 85 mph and it could run for 100,000 miles before a engine rebuild. I once rode from Missoula Montana to Portland in less than a day because I ran out of pot (almost 700 miles) and it was running as good at the end of the trip as it was when I left. |
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