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Message started by alcoa on 07/13/10 at 09:13:06

Title: What I believe to be true.
Post by alcoa on 07/13/10 at 09:13:06

loud pipes dont save lives
suzuki oil and filter every 3000 miles
if 80mph is not good for you get a bigger bike
rejet carb waste money
reg. gas will do
this is the right bike for me
boots cloves full face padded jacket and pants every time I ride
after the winter of not ridding take it slow for a time
when ridding watch everbody trust no one
this is a very good site
if you take care of this bike it will take care of you
8548 miles no problem
I like my dealer
SUZUKI SAVAGE RULLS :)

Title: Re: What I believe to be true.
Post by bill67 on 07/13/10 at 09:19:35

Other than rejet and all the clothes I agree with you.I like my dealer too.

Title: Re: What I believe to be true.
Post by Serowbot on 07/13/10 at 09:37:59

It's a new religion...
Are those the 14 commandments?...

Liking my dealer requires too much faith for me.... :-?...

Title: Re: What I believe to be true.
Post by Routy on 07/13/10 at 10:16:11

IMO, not all true. But I know,....you didn't ask for it.

Am I supposed to have a dealer ?

I think I'll go "ridding" today. ;)

And right on, Savage "Rulls" ;)

Title: Re: What I believe to be true.
Post by Hashbrown on 07/13/10 at 10:16:50

man you really drank the kool-aid.  loud pipes are awesome!  rejetting makes you feel like a real mechanic  ;D  Helmets are for people who want to be a vegitable after an accident, and believe me dealerships are about as friendly as strippers and for the same reasons   ;)

Title: Re: What I believe to be true.
Post by spacepirates on 07/13/10 at 10:45:56


745D4F545E4E534B523C0 wrote:
and believe me dealerships are about as friendly as strippers and for the same reasons   ;)


you sound like you've got more than some experience in those departments  ;D

Title: Re: What I believe to be true.
Post by ArGaT on 07/13/10 at 11:28:52

For me this is the most important one that everyone should agree with..

WHEN RIDING WATCH EVERYONE TRUST NO ONE !!!!!!!!

Title: Re: What I believe to be true.
Post by BurnPgh on 07/13/10 at 11:42:23


181B1A1D1C1F1E1110290 wrote:
loud pipes dont save lives


I beg to disagree. I was run off the road several times by people cutting me off in my first 2 years riding. I put my screaming eagle muffler on last year it has not happened since. They might not see me but they hear me coming. Even deer in the road scatter when they hear me coming and they do so well before I get near enough to them to cause an issue.

Title: Re: What I believe to be true.
Post by Phelonius on 07/13/10 at 12:10:48

Every time you enter traffic, you are entering a combat zonewith no allies.
Every one out there is going to try to do you in either through stupidity or malice.
Never expect another driver to do something merely because the law says that they should. (for instance, obey a stop sign)
Wearing a firearm will make you more visible than loud pipes or loud color clothing.

Phelonius

Title: Re: What I believe to be true.
Post by Oldnewguy on 07/13/10 at 12:16:10

I like loud piped cause I can and plenty of lights!  ;D

Title: Re: What I believe to be true.
Post by Paladin. on 07/13/10 at 14:05:01


1028252C2F2E293533400 wrote:
Every time you enter traffic, you are entering a combat zonewith no allies.
Every one out there is going to try to do you in either through stupidity or malice.
Never expect another driver to do something merely because the law says that they should. (for instance, obey a stop sign)
Wearing a firearm will make you more visible than loud pipes or loud color clothing.

Phelonius

I seen that the July 2010 American Rifleman has the new Rossi Range Hand -- a 12 inch barrel/24 inch long "pistol."  I WANT!  http://www.americanrifleman.org/ArticlePage.aspx?id=2447&cid=1

But agree that if you want to ride to live, you trust no one.   You cannot dodge what you do not see.

Title: Re: What I believe to be true.
Post by Hashbrown on 07/13/10 at 14:07:51


7E7D6C6E687D647F6C79687E0D0 wrote:
[quote author=745D4F545E4E534B523C0 link=1279037586/0#4 date=1279041410] and believe me dealerships are about as friendly as strippers and for the same reasons   ;)


you sound like you've got more than some experience in those departments  ;D[/quote]

Not really, i get screwed by the dealers, not so much by the strippers  :-/

Title: Re: What I believe to be true.
Post by jsarsfield on 07/13/10 at 14:16:09


6C45574C46564B534A240 wrote:
[quote author=7E7D6C6E687D647F6C79687E0D0 link=1279037586/0#5 date=1279043156][quote author=745D4F545E4E534B523C0 link=1279037586/0#4 date=1279041410] and believe me dealerships are about as friendly as strippers and for the same reasons   ;)


you sound like you've got more than some experience in those departments  ;D[/quote]

Not really, i get screwed by the dealers, not so much by the strippers  :-/
[/quote]

Your lucky it burns more the other way around ;D

Title: Re: What I believe to be true.
Post by bill67 on 07/13/10 at 14:20:27

Motorcycle dealers are like every one here trying to make a living,How would you like to pay their overhead,Look at the salaries they have to pay out a week,And you expect them to just give you something,Next week tell your boss you will work for nothing just to be a nice guy.How would you like your boss to let you go because another guy will work for 50 cents and hour less than you.When Wal mart starts selling motorcycle you can go there and save a little.

Title: Re: What I believe to be true.
Post by james may on 07/13/10 at 15:08:20

I would totally buy my cars and motorcycles from wal mart.  I'd much rather save money than help some wackoff pay for his kids to go to college!!  Paying more for a product becuase the company treats their employees better is basically welfare.  

Hey don't compare strippers to salesmen.  Salesmen are scum..

Loud exhausts deffinately save lives.  

Title: Re: What I believe to be true.
Post by Serowbot on 07/13/10 at 16:43:41

What I believe...

Toast always fall butterside down...

A newly washed window gathers dirt at double the speed of an unwashed window....

All great car chases must have a fruit cart in them...

Whenever you set out to do something, something else must be done first...

Dogs can't look up...


Title: Re: What I believe to be true.
Post by jef.savage on 07/13/10 at 19:23:12


4B5D4A574F5A574C380 wrote:
What I believe...


Dogs can't look up...

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs019.snc1/4237_1006436701437_1840500456_8176_1390945_n.jpg

Title: Re: What I believe to be true.
Post by jef.savage on 07/13/10 at 19:39:12

I appreciate that you shared this as what you believe, rather than know.
my comments:
loud pipes dont save lives   but they do help you get noticed, and they don't have to be obnoxious to do so
suzuki oil and filter every 3000 miles why Suzuki?
if 80mph is not good for you get a bigger bike agree
rejet carb waste money rejetting is choosing to spend your money for a ride that you enjoy more.  Not a waste if you're enjoying it.
reg. gas will do absolutely
this is the right bike for me only you can judge that
boots cloves full face padded jacket and pants every time I ride do you eat the cloves or wear them?
after the winter of not ridding take it slow for a time agreed but you need a spell checker
when ridding watch everbody trust no one If you want me to take you seriously you've really got to improve your spelling
this is a very good site agreed
if you take care of this bike it will take care of you true of any bike
8548 miles no problem that's just barely broken in
I like my dealer I have nothing against dealerships but way too many just aren't principled.  Glad you found a good one
(sure hope I didn't misspell anything)

Title: Re: What I believe to be true.
Post by Hashbrown on 07/13/10 at 19:39:39


73787D7D2726110 wrote:
Motorcycle dealers are like every one here trying to make a living,How would you like to pay their overhead,Look at the salaries they have to pay out a week,And you expect them to just give you something,Next week tell your boss you will work for nothing just to be a nice guy.How would you like your boss to let you go because another guy will work for 50 cents and hour less than you.When Wal mart starts selling motorcycle you can go there and save a little.


So Bill out of curiousity, you would willingly pay more for a specific part or product because its supporting your local dealer rather then getting the exact same thing cheaper online or through this forum?  Adam Smith would crap out widgets if he heard that  ::)

Title: Re: What I believe to be true.
Post by Starlifter on 07/13/10 at 21:49:06

Alcoa, 100% spot on, + 1.

Title: Re: What I believe to be true.
Post by LANCER on 07/14/10 at 03:14:05


635B565F5C5D5A4640330 wrote:
Every time you enter traffic, you are entering a combat zonewith no allies.
Every one out there is going to try to do you in either through stupidity or malice.
Never expect another driver to do something merely because the law says that they should. (for instance, obey a stop sign)
Wearing a firearm will make you more visible than loud pipes or loud color clothing.

Phelonius


LOL   ;D  LOL   ;D  LOL   ;D  

I LOVE IT !

Title: Re: What I believe to be true.
Post by LANCER on 07/14/10 at 03:24:58


1E1D1C1B1A191817162F0 wrote:
loud pipes dont save lives
suzuki oil and filter every 3000 miles
if 80mph is not good for you get a bigger bike
rejet carb waste money
reg. gas will do
this is the right bike for me
boots cloves full face padded jacket and pants every time I ride
after the winter of not ridding take it slow for a time
when ridding watch everbody trust no one
this is a very good site
if you take care of this bike it will take care of you
8548 miles no problem
I like my dealer
SUZUKI SAVAGE RULLS :)


this is correct IF your fuel/air mixture is correct
an untouched stock bike is suspect a best
the purpose of a rejet/tune is to bring the fuel/air mix to a proper ratio for optimum operation

Title: Re: What I believe to be true.
Post by bill67 on 07/14/10 at 04:09:15


40697B606A7A677F66080 wrote:
[quote author=73787D7D2726110 link=1279037586/0#13 date=1279056027]Motorcycle dealers are like every one here trying to make a living,How would you like to pay their overhead,Look at the salaries they have to pay out a week,And you expect them to just give you something,Next week tell your boss you will work for nothing just to be a nice guy.How would you like your boss to let you go because another guy will work for 50 cents and hour less than you.When Wal mart starts selling motorcycle you can go there and save a little.


So Bill out of curiousity, you would willingly pay more for a specific part or product because its supporting your local dealer rather then getting the exact same thing cheaper online or through this forum?  Adam Smith would crap out widgets if he heard that  ::)[/quote]
Yes I would,When I want something I want it now not a week from now,And a few bucks more isn't going to kill you.And it makes you feel good you support someone you know,Sam Walton family doesn't need any support.

Title: Re: What I believe to be true.
Post by mpescatori on 07/14/10 at 06:20:21


767B74797F68282D1A0 wrote:
[quote author=635B565F5C5D5A4640330 link=1279037586/0#8 date=1279048248]Every time you enter traffic, you are entering a combat zonewith no allies.
Every one out there is going to try to do you in either through stupidity or malice.
Never expect another driver to do something merely because the law says that they should. (for instance, obey a stop sign)
Wearing a firearm will make you more visible than loud pipes or loud color clothing.

Phelonius


LOL   ;D  LOL   ;D  LOL   ;D  

I LOVE IT !
[/quote]

I tried, Lord knows I tried, but I couldn't get my arm down that sleeve... er, down that barrel ...

http://www.americanrifleman.org/home-carousel/images/ranchhand.jpg

Looove this one !!!  8-)

Title: Re: What I believe to be true.
Post by WD on 07/14/10 at 16:33:09

Some dealerships are in fact decent places. I absolutely loved Suzuki City in Biloxi Misissippi, bought my Savage there, had its first service there, could get whatever I needed for an "ancient" GS750T the same day 90% of the time...

Now, I live within 20 miles of 9 dealerships that carry Suzukis. On a good day, I MIGHT be able to get a tire from them, but tubes, sparkplugs, and other consumables? Forget it, special order only. I know 2 that would buy oil filters from me (Emgo brand), repackage them in OEM boxes, sell them to an unsuspecting rube (customer, sorry), keep the box after "servicing" his bike, and repeat it the next time they ran low on filters. They'd get tubes and plugs from us too, retail at the indie shop was less than OEM wholesale to them. The last time I dealt with one of them, I asked for a starter relay, payed my money (plus tax, special order fee and such), waited 3 weeks (they never bothered to call when the part came in, watched them write a received date on the bag when I showed up) and was handed a starter solenoid, not the relay. Had to keep it, no returns on electrical, even electrical the parts kids mis-ordered.

So, **** them AND the crotch rocket they rode in on (from the trailer lot around the back, gotta "look" the part when they show up ya know).

What I know is TRUE about MY Savage: I have more fun "messing it up" than i ever had with it stone stock. Looks better, runs better, sounds better, fits ME better. My name is on the pink slip, the only opinion about that bike that matters is mine.

Oh, and I still hate full gear.

Title: Re: What I believe to be true.
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/16/10 at 07:47:59


44455E554244494055300 wrote:
I would totally buy my cars and motorcycles from wal mart.  I'd much rather save money than help some wackoff pay for his kids to go to college!!  Paying more for a product becuase the company treats their employees better is basically welfare.  

Hey don't compare strippers to salesmen.  Salesmen are scum..

Loud exhausts deffinately save lives.  




Explaining how those attitudes actually cost you in the long run would take too long, But, they do.
I buy from a local shop owner, even when I can save $$$ by buying online, just so I can do my part in keeping a shop open. A place where there are people working, people I like. Nice folks who spend their paychecks locally.
The Big Box stores with all the high volume, cheap crap wind up costing the local economy in the long run by driving all the mom & pop places out. Jobs are lost & the disposable part of people income decreases, leaving them more broke after buying the cheap imported crap than they were after buying the Made in USA stuff from a smallerplace, locally owned &operated.  Its an entirely different concept of reality. I doubt seriously anyone who disagrees today would ever change their views on it.

Title: Re: What I believe to be true.
Post by Hashbrown on 07/16/10 at 08:29:49


2A353334292E1F2F1F27353972400 wrote:
[quote author=44455E554244494055300 link=1279037586/0#14 date=1279058900]I would totally buy my cars and motorcycles from wal mart.  I'd much rather save money than help some wackoff pay for his kids to go to college!!  Paying more for a product becuase the company treats their employees better is basically welfare.  

Hey don't compare strippers to salesmen.  Salesmen are scum..

Loud exhausts deffinately save lives.  




Explaining how those attitudes actually cost you in the long run would take too long, But, they do.
I buy from a local shop owner, even when I can save $$$ by buying online, just so I can do my part in keeping a shop open. A place where there are people working, people I like. Nice folks who spend their paychecks locally.
The Big Box stores with all the high volume, cheap crap wind up costing the local economy in the long run by driving all the mom & pop places out. Jobs are lost & the disposable part of people income decreases, leaving them more broke after buying the cheap imported crap than they were after buying the Made in USA stuff from a smallerplace, locally owned &operated.  Its an entirely different concept of reality. I doubt seriously anyone who disagrees today would ever change their views on it.
[/quote]

I beg to differ, Big box stores like Wal are by far the largest employers in the US today thus creating more jobs then all mom and pop type stores combined. This backlash of competition is the invisible hand working to drive down prices which benefits the consumer.  Most large stores only carry one line of in house products like Walmart's "Great Value" the rest is still the same products you would buy at local shops.  The reason for the cheap prices is that Walmart is a price maker to its supplyers and operates on razor thin margins. So your not really getting cheaply made products.  In times of economic turnmoil, these companies provide customers the best bang for their buck which relaxes an individual's monetary spending and helps stimulate growth in the economy.  If you had to pay a premium on everything you bought while your out of work, you would be living on ramen noodles and basic cable. Im not saying that mom and pop shops need to go out of business, there are plenty of people such as yourself who will support them and they are justified on their prices if they produce a specialized product, but don’t expect the masses to negate the basic economic priciple of self interest.  As my boy Adam Smith so eloquently put it…". It is not from the benevolence of the butcher, the brewer, or the baker, that we can expect our dinner, but from their regard to their own interest"

Title: Re: What I believe to be true.
Post by bill67 on 07/16/10 at 09:16:44

Any one want to make big money go to work at Wal-Mart

Title: Re: What I believe to be true.
Post by Hashbrown on 07/16/10 at 09:23:38

meh...i said it was great for the consumer, maybe not so much for the employee but whatever at least its a job.  better to have walmart pay them rather then Obama.  where else can you get a steady job with benefits (albeit crappy) as a mentally and phyically disabled person.  your only job qualification is the ability to say hello.   ;D

Title: Re: What I believe to be true.
Post by stinger on 07/16/10 at 21:26:53

IM trying to figure out why you take cloves with you when ever you ride?

Title: Re: What I believe to be true.
Post by jsarsfield on 07/17/10 at 00:12:50


3B242225383F0E3E0E36242863510 wrote:
[quote author=44455E554244494055300 link=1279037586/0#14 date=1279058900]I would totally buy my cars and motorcycles from wal mart.  I'd much rather save money than help some wackoff pay for his kids to go to college!!  Paying more for a product becuase the company treats their employees better is basically welfare.  

Hey don't compare strippers to salesmen.  Salesmen are scum..

Loud exhausts deffinately save lives.  




Explaining how those attitudes actually cost you in the long run would take too long, But, they do.
I buy from a local shop owner, even when I can save $$$ by buying online, just so I can do my part in keeping a shop open. A place where there are people working, people I like. Nice folks who spend their paychecks locally.
The Big Box stores with all the high volume, cheap crap wind up costing the local economy in the long run by driving all the mom & pop places out. Jobs are lost & the disposable part of people income decreases, leaving them more broke after buying the cheap imported crap than they were after buying the Made in USA stuff from a smallerplace, locally owned &operated.  Its an entirely different concept of reality. I doubt seriously anyone who disagrees today would ever change their views on it.
[/quote]

Nicely said .... I personally would never step foot in one of their stores I don't care what kind of "deals" they offer.   If you have seen the movie "Walmart the high cost of low prices" I suggest everyone see it.


Title: Re: What I believe to be true.
Post by horseshoe_george on 07/17/10 at 04:16:31


696E73747D7F681A0 wrote:
IM trying to figure out why you take cloves with you when ever you ride?


In case your motorcycle club is having a pig roast of course. Dot the pig with cloves and cover with glaze many times while roasting. Yum!!!!!

Title: Re: What I believe to be true.
Post by JohnBoy on 07/17/10 at 13:08:00


7E57455E5444594158360 wrote:
Helmets are for people who want to be a vegitable after an accident...


Numerous crashes at speed all with a helmet...and not a vegetable yet (?)

Title: Re: What I believe to be true.
Post by WD on 07/18/10 at 10:31:08

Depends on how you land...

When I wrecked in 2/08 my faceshield ( police riot helmet type and a 3/4 shell) did it's job and saved my face.

When my wife Trish got t-boned on her Harley in 95, the helmet weight broke her neck and killed her. Not another indication on her that she had even gotten hit.

I'm not fond of helmets, hot, heavy, smell bad after a couple years. But they can be a benefit. I prefer to ride without one, can't in this nanny state, so be it.

Title: Re: What I believe to be true.
Post by Hashbrown on 07/19/10 at 06:10:06

WD.  Move to NH, you'll never look back  ;D


Title: Re: What I believe to be true.
Post by ALfromN.H. on 07/19/10 at 06:53:47

I live in N.H. and I always wear I always wear my helmet. I don't particularly like it but I wear it.

Title: Re: What I believe to be true.
Post by ArGaT on 07/19/10 at 08:06:02

I think you will always have the for and against for helmets just the same for seat belts in cars but remember this helmets are PPE (personal protective Equipment) and as such are a last resort of defence so please please everyone be carefull while enjoying your chosen beast and never never trust anyone else on the road.... :)

Title: Re: What I believe to be true.
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/19/10 at 08:54:37

The 1st bike I totalled I had no helmet on. IF I had, I woulda died. The last timne I crashed on I had a helmet on. If I hadnt, I would have been kelled or permanently injured when my face slammed into the back of the pickups cab. If I had had the full coverage, my face would have been crushed. So, ya pays yer money & ya takes yer chances.

Title: Re: What I believe to be true.
Post by Phelonius on 07/19/10 at 10:09:35

Wait until the big duallies of a commercial truck try to rollover your head.
The hard shell was slick enough that my head squirted out from under the wheels like when you press your thumb down on a large marble.
Stunned but not dead is better than having putty squirt out your mouth and ears.

Phelonius
Besides, it is a good place to hang a face shield.  It is better to see bugs splattered on the face shield than try to look at them swimming inside your eyeball. ;)

Title: Re: What I believe to be true.
Post by MMRanch on 07/20/10 at 20:57:49

I believe  YOU'LL ARE ALL NUTS  and its probley a good thing, couse this site wouldn't be half as good if we could agree on anything but the fact that BIG ONE CYLINDERS are GREAT FUN.

Never ride faster than your Gardian Angel can fly




You too Mick

;D 8-)


Title: Re: What I believe to be true.
Post by alcoa on 07/22/10 at 04:45:17

Sorry I cant spell, but thats what I believe to be true.

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