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Title: doubling up Post by ashintmc on 06/24/10 at 14:30:16 now that i have the basics down. just gotta find a savage I like my wife brought up whether we could double up on the savage and if you need to mod the seat to make it feasible. so the question basically is can you double up at city/backroad highway speeds without too much loss in power. and if it can what kind of seat mods should i do |
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Title: Re: doubling up Post by Charon on 06/24/10 at 16:21:12 The Savage/S40 has adequate power for carrying double, unless you plan to do long uphill mountain grades at highway speed (think I-70 westbound from Denver). But the passenger seat is not a pleasant place to be, according to my wife. About ten miles was all she wanted. I have tried sitting on it, and I have to agree. If you want to do any serious two-up riding, go look for a bike designed to do that job and don't even fool with the Savage/S40. Go to a dealership - or several dealerships - with your wife in tow. Both of you climb onto whatever bike seems to fit, and sit there for as long as the sales staff will let you. I suggest starting with a Gold Wing, to get an idea of what is possible. Most anything else will be a "downgrade." It is important that both of you sit on the bike at the same time, because the passenger seating position will be different with and without the width of the driver forcing the passenger's legs to spread apart (yeah, I know that sounds kinky). Edited to add: For two-up riding, don't even look at sportbikes. Most cruisers have poor passenger seats. If the passenger seat isn't as wide as the driver's seat, she won't like it. If the passenger seat slopes rearward, she will feel very insecure on any sort of acceleration. Look to see where the passenger footpegs are located. Most modern bikes do not have centerstands, so you will have to convince the sales staff to hold the bike upright while the two of you sit on it - with your feet on the pegs. Or bring a big, strong, willing friend. I know these comments seem rather negative, but there is a lot of truth in the saying "If Mama ain't happy, ain't nobody happy." |
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Title: Re: doubling up Post by Serowbot on 06/24/10 at 17:15:12 You might consider something like this... ...or make something similar yourself... http://www.buttybuddy.com/index.asp http://www.buttybuddy.com/images/buttybutty01.jpg |
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Title: Re: doubling up Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/24/10 at 21:16:13 How much experience do you have hauling anyone? How much experience does she have as a passenger? A passenger who doesnt understand what looking around a car to see whats coming can do to you is a dangerous thing. My daughter put me in oncoming, thankfully, the road was empty. |
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Title: Re: doubling up Post by jef.savage on 06/25/10 at 06:10:25 Even with the best of seats the Savage is just too small for two people unless you are both also pretty small. As mentioned it has the power but after a short time you'll get tired of banging helmets. |
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Title: Re: doubling up Post by Bubba on 06/25/10 at 07:08:32 +1 on the knocking helmets. Both my wife and I are small ( Im' 5'9" 145, she's 5'2" 120). We ride around town 2-up but that's about it. Plus, whenever she moves around...I feel it. The savage just barely works for us. That being said, she loves to go for little rides on it. I've tried to talk her into getting a small bike of her own but she doesn't want to have to think that much... ;D Also, think about the responsibilty of someone else due to your actions...I ride my kids around in the neighborhood (with a helmet on them) but not the major roads...too scary! |
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Title: Re: doubling up Post by Hashbrown on 06/25/10 at 07:52:19 screw that! im a big guy and due to a lack of options i end up with some heffers ;D savage can handle any beast i throw on the back! just have to downshift alot :D its easy, if your losing power, try twisting the throttle more, that tends to solve the problem. you might want to get a gel seat if you wife is pleasantly plump but dont worry about the power, that little single can haul a$$ when she needs to. |
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Title: Re: doubling up Post by Bubba on 06/25/10 at 07:55:14 I'm not sayin' it doesn't have the power, just that it's not the most comfortable. Remember, the question was thrown out there by a new rider... |
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Title: Re: doubling up Post by wingsout on 06/25/10 at 08:03:58 Thanks Hashbrown; I'll be laughing about that one for a couple of days! |
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Title: Re: doubling up Post by Hashbrown on 06/25/10 at 08:21:38 haha no worries. seeing me on the savage with my various women is like watching two hippos fighting over a twinkie on a Big Wheel. i generally have clown music in my head when i ride...yeah i got issues |
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Title: Re: doubling up Post by spacepirates on 06/25/10 at 09:47:15 I've had my savage up to 70-75 sustained riding two up, wasn't too bad. Me (at 5'10" and 200lbs) and my girl (maybe 5'6" at 110) fit just fine, maybe a little close, but neither of us mind! knocking helmets sucks, but she usually ends up leaning to the side and looking over my shoulder a lot. she is light enough it doesn't affect turning all that much. heh, i once tried to buck her off by hitting a pothole real hard and cranking the throttle... she stayed on but was none too pleased! got a good little talking to after that one... she hasn't complained about seat comfort yet, and if she does maybe i'll put in one of these (http://www.viberider.com/vibe_rider.asp). doubt she'd be complaining then! in short: you can do 70-75 no problem two up, and the seat isn't the best but it works. |
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Title: Re: doubling up Post by spacepirates on 06/25/10 at 09:50:41 ah, forgot to mention, if you do double up, take a practice ride around the block first. even small girls make the brakes on the savage feel horribly inadequate. long time to stop, wider turns (grind pegs real easy with the extra weight), and harder to stabilize, especially if she likes to fidget. so be sure to get used to all those changes before you go flying down some back country road at 85, laying her down with two feels a hell of a lot worse than laying her down with one :-/ |
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Title: Re: doubling up Post by cursal on 06/25/10 at 09:52:05 Top end with me and lady is 80 (bike in sig). We do freeway rides, back roads...not much uphill. We are no more than 350 LBs all geared up on the bike with saddle bags loaded up. She gets her memory foam pillow and straps in over the back seat and pad using a bungy cord. She can ride for hours sitting on that. +2 for the helmet knocking. |
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Title: Re: doubling up Post by Hashbrown on 06/25/10 at 10:56:12 Helmet Knocking? oh thats right you guys live in oppressive states that have helmet laws ;D in NH its your god given right to be an idiot. |
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Title: Re: doubling up Post by Bubba on 06/25/10 at 11:02:48 ;D...no helmet laws here in good 'ol Colorado...the fact that I wear one just means I ain't got no common sense... ;) |
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Title: Re: doubling up Post by drums1 on 06/26/10 at 08:19:29 My neice occasionally wants to go for a ride. Now I'm 260 and she's a good 140. She can do about 20 miles on the tiny little strip they call a back seat. Not much power loss, although mine vibrates so much, I can't go much more than 65 anyway. I noticed the other day in my new (used) mirrors, I can't see behind me clearly as the mirrors vibrate too. My main problem with doubling up is bottoming out on every little crack in the road. 16,000 miles and ready for new shocks? Dammit, what next? |
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Title: Re: doubling up Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/26/10 at 08:23:59 Maybe the shocks arent to blame. Tossing the weight of the bike on its seat may not be what the suspension was designed for. |
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Title: Re: doubling up Post by ashintmc on 06/26/10 at 09:01:24 455A5C5B4641704070485A561D2F0 wrote:
while it wouldnt be for a while as im still a noob 1 month out of msf class we dont plan on doubling up for atleast 6 mos while i get used to riding everywhere. that being said my wife has been a passenger on many bikes and her father a lawyer and msf instructor has said on multiple occasions she is the best passenger to put on bike because she knows to not lean on turns and how to balance throught twisties on his harley. and anyways i already said screw it and got the savage im not gonna post pictures till i get it looking nice and running gotta replace belts but shouldnt be too long before i hit the road in it just waiting on parts. plus gotta make sure the paint is cool enough to ride and my vanity plate comes in... 8-) |
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Title: Re: doubling up Post by BurnPgh on 06/26/10 at 12:28:31 unless you have serious damage to your belt you dont need to replace it. |
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