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Title: oil change Post by grtscot on 06/14/10 at 13:56:06 hi yall im going to change the oil on my wifes bike , wondering what is a good oil and filter for the savage i know its 10w 40 any recomendations this is a great site thanks all. |
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Title: Re: oil change Post by Serowbot on 06/14/10 at 14:30:14 Gulp!,... You said the forbidden word... oil.... :-?... ;D ;D ;D... Safest, most universally excepted choice... ... any name brand quality motorcycle specific oil,.. 10w-40 or 10/20w-50... Really?... any 10w40 oil is fine.... as long as it's not labeled, "fuel saving"... Do a search for past oil threads for details,... there's a million of them... |
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Title: Re: oil change Post by Routy on 06/14/10 at 18:16:17 Try this http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1275754525 |
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Title: Re: oil change Post by Skid Mark on 06/14/10 at 19:37:42 Whoo hooo!!! oil wars. Just make sure it's not the oil with the enviro something rating. It makes the clutch slip. I'm sure someone can enlighten us with the proper name. |
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Title: Re: oil change Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/14/10 at 20:28:32 I like Rotella T 15-40. Its sold as a diesel engine oil. Diesels take a pounding & run many hundred thousand miles. |
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Title: Re: oil change Post by Skid Mark on 06/14/10 at 20:32:10 I use rotella t too. |
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Title: Re: oil change Post by bill67 on 06/14/10 at 20:37:41 Thats funny I use motorcycle oil for some strange reason. |
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Title: Re: oil change Post by verslagen1 on 06/14/10 at 20:41:40 rotsynT6 5w40 except in the summer 20w50 or keep it under 65 which I can't do cause I got wicker wrist [smiley=evil.gif] |
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Title: Re: oil change Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/15/10 at 02:29:25 484346461C1D2A0 wrote:
I havent looked, but I heard Rotalla T 15-40 has been tested & rebadged AS a motorcycle oil recently. Not due to a change of formulation, but because it is & has been formulated so that it passes the test. To be clear, it isnt in a jug that say "I am a motorcycle oil", but hasd the same symbols & stuff on the jug that motorcycle oils have. Just so happens, its also so good of an oil that diesel engines, you know, the ones that crush their bearings so as they compress the fuel/air mixture so hard that it ignites, run for hundreds of thousands of miles, |
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Title: Re: oil change Post by bill67 on 06/15/10 at 02:56:01 Thats good,but Klotz has been a motorcycle oil for 50 years,I know its cost a little more but its cheap insurance. |
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Title: Re: oil change Post by dasch on 06/15/10 at 03:51:33 Pillow fight! Pillow fight! 63686D6D3736010 wrote:
That's the spirit! grtscot, you just can't go wrong with whatever oil Suzuki recommends. If you want to experiment or alternate - anything that is not "energy conserving", "super teflon enhanced", "magnetic mollecular bla bla" is good. |
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Title: Re: oil change Post by Routy on 06/15/10 at 04:20:40 I use Castrol full synthetic car oil.... for several reasons, one being that I like being different ;) |
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Title: Re: oil change Post by onelunger on 06/15/10 at 04:31:30 455A5C5B4641704070485A561D2F0 wrote:
I havent looked, but I heard Rotalla T 15-40 has been tested & rebadged AS a motorcycle oil recently. Not due to a change of formulation, but because it is & has been formulated so that it passes the test. To be clear, it isnt in a jug that say "I am a motorcycle oil", but hasd the same symbols & stuff on the jug that motorcycle oils have. Just so happens, its also so good of an oil that diesel engines, you know, the ones that crush their bearings so as they compress the fuel/air mixture so hard that it ignites, run for hundreds of thousands of miles,[/quote] The Rotella 15-40 synthetic carries the JASO certification for wet clutch use. It's not listed as a "motorcycle oil" but it works just fine and will not cause clutch issues. Best part is, it's less than 1/2 the cost of a sythetic "motorcycle" oil. I can get it for about $20/gal around here and that's almost enough for 3 oil changes on the wifes S40 or 1 on my GSXR. |
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Title: Re: oil change Post by Oldfeller on 06/15/10 at 04:47:07 5w40 Rotella Synthetic in the big blue jug for $20 is what I use. It and the white jug Rotella dino 15w40 have a long history on many different motorcycle boards as being very good, trouble free and relatively inexpensive bike oils. Yes, the stuff is primarily sold as diesel truck oil, but when you check the bottle for the certifications it is certified as JASO and as such is a bike oil just like the rest of them. It just costs a whole lot less $$$. ====================== (and Bill, I know you like your oil wars -- but when you write extra ordinary and fully unsubstantiated claims for your Klotz oil having magical properties or having been invented way back when (when it was only two stroke oil back then) just understand that nobody is gonna call you on it because nobody really cares that much about it any more. If Verslagen verifies that Klotz works better in his bike later on this summer then we will crown it THE Supreme Savage Oil, until then it is merely another good but extremely expensive Savage oil. And who knows, maybe Walmart will stock it then) |
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Title: Re: oil change Post by bill67 on 06/15/10 at 06:20:06 I know its all about short term money,Being I'm planning on being around a while I think about the long term,Thats why I pay more for a racing oil, the engine will last longer runs cooler,more horsepower, better mileage.Klotz Mx4 in the BLACK BOTTLE. |
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Title: Re: oil change Post by cursal on 06/15/10 at 07:23:50 I'm using Yamalube 20/50 http://www.yamaha-motor.com/outdoor/apparel/apscitemdetail/3/121/all/1/7457/detail.aspx It's what a local dealer puts in all the bikes in their shop, all metric bikes. Running great in mine for past 800 miles. was like 7 bucks a quart. |
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Title: Re: oil change Post by Routy on 06/15/10 at 08:09:53 Quote: If Verslagen verifies that Klotz works better in his bike later on this summer then we will crown it THE Supreme Savage Oil, --------------------------------------------------------------- Why ? Is Versal the oil Goddess here ? Tell us more ! Funny thing, I know all the oils that work fine in motorcycles,.....which is almost every name brand there is gives no problem whatsoever, and its been that way for 50 years. What I want to see is a list of name brand oils that does give problems,.......or, on 2nd thought, forget the list,...just name 1 ! |
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Title: Re: oil change Post by bill67 on 06/15/10 at 08:18:43 6A657F64787E6D6F67697E0C0 wrote:
+1 I get a kick out of some people here They say they use a certain oil with out problems,What problems did they think they might have. |
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Title: Re: oil change Post by Oldfeller on 06/15/10 at 08:37:47 You'll like this ---- Verslagen is the only person qualified to have an opinion about all these oils since he bought a case or gallon of each one of the oil war favorites and he has been slogging through them one at a time ... for the last year and a bit. Nobody else has actually cross-compared the oils in the same Savage, ever. When he finishes with Klotz, then he will give the only real opinion of someone who has actually tried all the oils. Bill is all excited now -- Rotella still exited Verslagen's skeeter fogger at high speed at the same rate as every other oil has done. No better, no worse -- so a rare opportunity for Bill's Klotz exists. IF Klotz doesn't evaporate out of Verslagen's bike like all the others then Klotz will win the comparison and the coveted title of Supreme Savage Oil and the oil wars will be officially over for good. ;D ;D ;D ;D And soon enough we will know ..... temperatures are almost up to the California summer time testing range |
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Title: Re: oil change Post by dasch on 06/15/10 at 08:53:24 353A203B27213230383621530 wrote:
Castrol Magnatec 10W40. A friend poured it in a CBR900, clutch slipped from 6-7K to redline. Given, it's hi rev 120HP machine but... |
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Title: Re: oil change Post by bill67 on 06/15/10 at 09:51:15 4B6860626168686176040 wrote:
Oldfellow then you will be switching to Klotz when he finds its the best right. |
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Title: Re: oil change Post by Oldfeller on 06/15/10 at 10:34:50 We will wait a bit to see what he says -- if it is a clearly superior wicking oil I might even be willing to pay that double to triple $$$$, who knows? Right now I have a mix that works ..... so I am not hurting right now. ;) ;) ;) ;) But why should normal folks with stock engines really be interested in expensive specialty wicking oil? Stock engines will do fine with any non-energy savings star rated oil of the correct weight. Certainly any motorcycle JASO wet clutch rated oil would do them just dandy. |
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Title: Re: oil change Post by verslagen1 on 06/15/10 at 12:02:10 Currently logging temp's at arrival. last week was cool, nothing to report other than keeping below 70 is hell. She wants to go. Changed the oil (still rotsyn) sunday. Temps read with a i/r gage: head, 220-225 oil filter, 170-175 wall, 75-85 Only appreciable oil use was a day she ripped the reins from my hands. [smiley=evil.gif] |
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Title: Re: oil change Post by Charon on 06/15/10 at 19:09:13 3E3530306A6B5C0 wrote:
I am eagerly awaiting Bill's actual documentation showing the proof that Klotz runs cooler and gives better mileage and more horsepower. I feel sure that when he makes such sweeping claims he has dyno sheets, IR temperature gun readings, oil temperature readings, and records of his gas mileage. After all, he certainly wouldn't make such claims without some evidence. |
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Title: Re: oil change Post by Serowbot on 06/15/10 at 19:58:08 I feel sure that information is tip top secret.... He could show ya',.. but then he'd have to kill ya'... :-?... |
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Title: Re: oil change Post by Routy on 06/16/10 at 05:02:00 2E2B3929224A0 wrote:
Castrol Magnatec 10W40. A friend poured it in a CBR900, clutch slipped from 6-7K to redline. Given, it's hi rev 120HP machine but...[/quote] But I have a friend that says it fixed his slipping clutch :o And my clutch feels more positive since I started using it. |
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