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Message started by Bubba on 06/04/10 at 16:29:04

Title: tire change?
Post by Bubba on 06/04/10 at 16:29:04

Time for new tires...honestly, how hard is it. I've changed hundreds of bicycle tires but never a motorcycle.
Is it worth it to have someone else do it for 22.50 a tire (off the bike)?
I currently don't have a lift...so I'd have to make something...

Title: Re: tire change?
Post by verslagen1 on 06/04/10 at 17:18:58

depends on you and the tire you put on and take off.
I did a light tire d404 on the rear, gettin' off is hard putting it back on near kilt me.  And pinched the tube to boot.

now I did a tubeless on the front and that was easy.

Title: Re: tire change?
Post by Oldfeller on 06/04/10 at 17:27:47

I do my own as a point of pride, but that may change as it really isn't worth the sweat & barked knuckles.

Actually, fighting the valve stem on the tube is the part I hate the most ....

Title: Re: tire change?
Post by buttgoat1 on 06/04/10 at 19:48:13

either your time or money, which would you rather spend?

not hard at all

I think there is a thread here about making a stand out of a 2 x 8 or 10
or just stack up a couple of boards under the bottom.



Title: Re: tire change?
Post by BurnPgh on 06/04/10 at 21:43:39

not hard my a$$. It's very very doable. Its good to know how to do it yourself if you ever get a flat somewhere. Its also very very worth having someone else do it unless you are specifically looking to gain the skill. You'll sweat and swear and pinch your fingers and it'll take forever. Take it somewhere and it'll be mounted and balanced in 10-15 minutes.

Title: Re: tire change?
Post by Educatedredneck on 06/05/10 at 00:57:22

For less than $50 to do both tires, and they are balanced to boot, shoot - Pay the Man!!!

Title: Re: tire change?
Post by dasch on 06/05/10 at 03:48:11

It's around $5 per tire here. Sorry guys - I'm done with crowbars!  ;)

Title: Re: tire change?
Post by Phelonius on 06/05/10 at 09:27:52

I don't trust anyone but myself to that job. I just changed both tires on my DR650 this week.
(Now I have to replenish my supply of four letter words again)

Phelonius ;)

Title: Re: tire change?
Post by WD on 06/05/10 at 09:41:59

I change my own... at the last shop I worked at. I just go in and use the machines.

I changed the 21" Avon front on the Panhead a couple weeks ago, in the driveway. And holed a brand new front tube. Avons are super soft, the rim was burr free, and I still hosed it up. And the Panhead now needs a new front wheel... ;D Don't ask...

I'll pay someone to do them if I don't feel like fooling with it. Which reminds me, I need to get the new Dunlops put on (scored a new rear Qualifier for $36 a couple months ago), my IRC front is junk and Cheng Shin rear has become hockey puck hard.

Don't buy Chinese tires!

Title: Re: tire change?
Post by photojoe on 06/05/10 at 09:42:52


4A6961636069696077050 wrote:
I do my own as a point of pride, but that may change as it really isn't worth the sweat & barked knuckles.

Actually, fighting the valve stem on the tube is the part I hate the most ....

My feelings exactly. The pride of knowing that I've yet to pay anyone for any repair, or maintenance on this bike for the 2+years I've had it feels good. But, I do draw the line when it comes to tires. Some things are just worth paying for. It'll take them about an hour with all the right gear. I'll be sweating and cursing all day doing it myself under the tree in the sand in front of the house. I'd rather spend that time riding ;)

$22.50 is a great price in my opinion. They get $40 per wheel in my neighborhood.

Title: Re: tire change?
Post by 1st2know on 06/05/10 at 10:23:10

I just changed my back tire myself and saved $40. It took me two hours and I have 652 sore muscles, 3 bruises and 4 scraped knuckles. It's more of a pride thing than a money saving thing.  It took 4 days for my middle aged body to heal, and  I kept my 17mm wrench in my back pocket for those 4 days just to let everyone know what a stud I am.

To get the old tire off:

- Leave the new tire in the sun to warm up while you remove the old tire.

- use two 10 inch spoons and one 18 inch tire iron. The 18 inch is optional, but it makes the job much easier. I used a large cable cuff to hold the spoons down to the spokes to free up both hands to pry.

- I used a C-Clamp to break the bead on the old tire - this is not ideal, as it takes a while and it could destroy the side-walls of the tire. This tire was dry-rot and had a gash in the shoulder so I didn't care what happened to it.

- Lots of Windex to keep the tire lubed.

To put the new tire on:

- Getting the 1st bead over the rim is 90% finesse and 10% Windex. The loudest 4-letter words eak out as the rim moves when I try to push/pry/punch the bead down.

- It took me 30 minutes to get the valve stem in. This happens after the  1st bead is over the rim. Use some gloves with the fingertips cut off.

- Getting the other bead stretched over the rim require leverage, muscle and patience(and Windex). It goes over an inch at a time. I used a bar clamp to keep the bead from slipping off while I pried it on from the  other way.

It took 2 hours because I did it by my self. If I had some help, I bet we'd be done in 1 hour and 58 minutes.
All while changing the tire, I kept thinking of Old Fellers paper on using a 40k mile thread automobile tire in the back. The idea of not doing this for another 20-40k miles sounds pretty good.

Title: Re: tire change?
Post by Oldfeller on 06/05/10 at 10:46:32


Just think, 5 plus years without having to hassle with a back tire.

period.

Title: Re: tire change?
Post by Bubba on 06/05/10 at 14:56:23

Thanks guys, pride not withstanding I'm taking it to the pros...
Bicycle tires...easy
Motorcycle tires...I'm old  ;D

Title: Re: tire change?
Post by Stimpy on 06/05/10 at 15:44:42

Easyish job; it's NOT strength one needs, it's technique.

..and some tools and some dishwashing gel!

Did it 3 times this week (new rear + installed my "old" one
on a friend's bike).

Always lubricate rim well and leave some air in tube (1/3?)
so this way you cannot pinch it w/tools; an extra set of
helping hands and a good workbench always help.
There are lot's of how-to vieos on youtube.

And Oldfeller is right, it's kind of a pride thing too, good luck 2 all.

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