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Message started by aphico on 05/31/10 at 16:56:44

Title: My 200.00 savage  deal or no deal?
Post by aphico on 05/31/10 at 16:56:44

http://i533.photobucket.com/albums/ee339/aphico/002.jpg?t=1275349930

I'ts missing the starter and solenoid, a side frame cover and the left foot peg isn't right.  the right mirror mount is broken,  but i found all the parts on ebay for 86.00 should be here this friday.  oil looks fresh and the plug has never been fired.    I though for less than 300.00 and a little work,  if it starts it was a pretty good deal

Title: Re: My 200.00 savage  deal or no deal?
Post by Boule’tard on 05/31/10 at 17:05:14

Heck yeah it's a deal  :D  Looks like more than $200 worth of parts in the picture, even if it doesn't run right away.

Title: Re: My 200.00 savage  deal or no deal?
Post by JohnBoy on 05/31/10 at 17:49:13

Great deal Dude!!!
Can I take you shopping with me?

Title: Re: My 200.00 savage  deal or no deal?
Post by buttgoat1 on 05/31/10 at 18:42:39

I think this is bordering on a "screaming deal"

clean title?
how many miles?

Title: Re: My 200.00 savage  deal or no deal?
Post by WD on 05/31/10 at 19:09:58

Clean seat, nice paint, tires look decent enough from what can be seen of them. Switch boxes and master cylinder look oxidized, nothing some paint or polish won't take care of.

If you can get her to fire off and run I'd say you got the deal of the century. Get some clamp on mirrors, the stock ones are pretty useless anyway. Grind off the factory mounting lugs, polish up the housings and ride the wheels off of it.

Good snag.

Title: Re: My 200.00 savage  deal or no deal?
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/31/10 at 21:20:04

the left foot peg isn't right.  


Uhhh, really... its LEFT^,, hello...

Title: Re: My 200.00 savage  deal or no deal?
Post by verslagen1 on 05/31/10 at 21:48:02

What year?
How many miles?

I'm guessing some engine work
black cylinder, is it painted or does it look stock?
silver head, could of been replaced if the cylinder looks stock.

if this is a pre 95 then check over the starter mounting.

Title: Re: My 200.00 savage  deal or no deal?
Post by aphico on 06/01/10 at 08:48:15

It's an 87,  the cylinder looks painted,  it's rough paint, and i can see a spot with over spray.,   the tires are like brand new,  no checks or cracks.  i figured the tires were worth the 200.00.   I bought parts off of  ebay from a 95.  starter, solenoid, cdi box, compression release cable and wires.   I didn't have any luck catching it in gear.  with the wires hooked together,  it didn't even try to fire.  back wheel just slid.
Hopefully the parts i got will fit and work as they should..http://IMG]http://i533.photobucket.com/albums/ee339/aphico/003.jpg[/img]http://[IMG]http://i533.photobucket.com/albums/ee339/aphico/004.jpg[/img]

Title: Re: My 200.00 savage  deal or no deal?
Post by aphico on 06/01/10 at 08:54:03

I forgot how to do the pic insert.  hopefully this will workhttp://s533.photobucket.com/albums/ee339/aphico/?action=view&current=003.jpg&newest=1

Title: Re: My 200.00 savage  deal or no deal?
Post by T Mack 1 - FSO on 06/01/10 at 08:57:30


6A7B636268640B0 wrote:
I forgot how to do the pic insert.  hopefully this will workhttp://s533.photobucket.com/albums/ee339/aphico/?action=view&current=003.jpg&newest=1


Looks nice.    Take the plug out and raise the rear wheel off the ground and put it in high gear, and rotate teh wheel and see if you can get the engine to turn over.


http://i533.photobucket.com/albums/ee339/aphico/003.jpg

Title: Re: My 200.00 savage  deal or no deal?
Post by cursal on 06/01/10 at 09:06:10

Looks like you go a great deal. Congrats and happy times coming after the "quick" fixes.

Cheers!

Title: Re: My 200.00 savage  deal or no deal?
Post by T Mack 1 - FSO on 06/01/10 at 09:11:36

Added comment

The place where the starter goes is a known "black hole" for dropped parts.  With the starter out, that black hole can have parts drop direectly into the left side cover and into the guts of the engine.   Be careful.

Title: Re: My 200.00 savage  deal or no deal?
Post by ralfyguy on 06/01/10 at 10:27:04

A '95 CDI on a '87? Not sure about that.

Title: Re: My 200.00 savage  deal or no deal?
Post by aphico on 06/01/10 at 21:03:00

thanx, for all the advice,  with the plug out it will roll forward and i can hear the piston going.  when the plug is in it won't go forward.  even in fourth gear the rear wheel just slides.  it will roll backward,  but not forward.   I know that doesnt sound right, but if any one would like to try?  i've been pushing this little thing up the hill now for a couple of days,  (it's really not that light)  

I read on another post,  that there are two washers for the starter,  and since i didn't remove it,  i'm wondering if they fell in the hole?  I tried to look in there with a mirror,  but know luck,  and i'm a little concerned with taking the case off,  I don't have a service manual,  and this is my first time on this bike.  i'm going to poke around in there with a flexible magnet and see if i can fish anything out.

I'm hoping it's the compression release,  but the batter is fully charged 12.9 on my meter anyway,  and i don't hear anything when i hit the start button.  I found the compression release under the tank wires look good,  and so does the cable.  i pulled on the cable,  it didn't move.  i was going to jump 12v to it,  but alittle worried about that as well.    I'll take picks of the parts i get,  and hopefully all you great people will walk me through this.  I gottal feeling i'm going to be an expert by the time i get this thing going.   thanx again.

Title: Re: My 200.00 savage  deal or no deal?
Post by buttgoat1 on 06/02/10 at 09:22:05

simple enough to drop off the right side case to look for dropped parts
may as well check the cam chain tensioner while its opened up.

Title: Re: My 200.00 savage  deal or no deal?
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/02/10 at 09:29:39

You might be able to force it, but you might just screw it into the FUBAR condition. Time to go look.

Title: Re: My 200.00 savage  deal or no deal?
Post by verslagen1 on 06/02/10 at 09:45:51

You can operate the decomp lever with a wrench.
I'd tie in place and give it a push.

I guess you can say it's got good compression  ::)

Title: Re: My 200.00 savage  deal or no deal?
Post by aphico on 06/02/10 at 16:41:36

good compression,  thats what i said.  it turns backward though?  i cant figure that one out.  

I pull the cable on the compression release,  it doesn't move,  at all.  feel like i would break it   I sprayed wd on the cable and down in the sheath just incase corrosion or rust or frozen for some reason.

does anyone know where i can get a manual.  or have one i can buy.
Local suzuki dealer,  says don't put any money in it,  it's not a good model,  Its too old, you won't get anything out of it,   bla, bla, bla.    I think,  with that big cylinder,  this thing is gonna scream.  I just don't want to be my own demise.  would feel much better with a book or manual.   I see the fiche on ebay.   whats that all about?


Title: Re: My 200.00 savage  deal or no deal?
Post by verslagen1 on 06/02/10 at 16:57:49

http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1138554254

http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1259638255/3#3

Title: Re: My 200.00 savage  deal or no deal?
Post by WD on 06/02/10 at 19:29:41

Your local stealership is the LAST place to go for ANYTHING on these bikes. Other than the Biloxi MS dealership, every place I've ridden mine (WA, TN, MS, AL, FL, LA, AR,KY) despise the LS. They can't keep them on the floor, and when I bought mine new in 98 Mike told me that he was allowed 2 new ones per year. Of course the dealer wants you to buy something else.

Mine has been radar trapped (at a track) at 115 mph.

I removed the speedometer/odometer a couple years ago, so no idea what kind of total miles are on her, but the last valve adjustment was at least 16K miles ago.

Find yourself a compatible CDI box, hit up Bike Bandit for the relay to the decomp assembly, and get her back on the road.

These bikes don't need much babying. I change my oil occasionally, have had blown fork seals since 5 minutes after I took possession, never wash it, keep it outdoors year round, ride year round...

Worst trouble with mine is keeping other people off of it, something about those F'ng apehangers...

Title: Re: My 200.00 savage  deal or no deal?
Post by verslagen1 on 06/02/10 at 19:38:33


50415958525E310 wrote:
Local suzuki dealer,  says don't put any money in it,  it's not a good model,  Its too old, you won't get anything out of it,   bla, bla, bla.


yeah, what wd said,  dealers don't like it cause we mostly do our own work, it's too simple to work on so he can't charge alot, there's not much after market parts for it so there's no sales, and most of us are cheap basturds and won't buy won't buy big buck a$$ jewelery.

Title: Re: My 200.00 savage  deal or no deal?
Post by aphico on 06/03/10 at 11:42:38

verslagen1,  that is a  bee  e  a  youtiful  thing!!!   boy do i feel better now.    parts didn't come yet, tomorrow maybe.  I'm gonna see what i can do in the mean time.    thanx much.

Title: Re: My 200.00 savage  deal or no deal?
Post by aphico on 06/03/10 at 16:31:03

ya  phukin who!!!!   parts came this afternoon,  put the starter and the solenoid on and it started,  went around the block and gears all worked, brakes work  good,  little too good,  and it's pretty dam fast  when i shut it off,  it wouldn't start back up.  It tries, to idle,  but as soon as i give it throttle it dies,   if i put the petcock on  and the choke off it won't even try to start.  i think it's gonna be a good one though,   I got the battery on charge now,  it dropped to 11.4  from sitting a couple days i guess.   hopefully thats it.

Title: Re: My 200.00 savage  deal or no deal?
Post by verslagen1 on 06/03/10 at 16:59:15

either put some seafoam in the tank or clean the carb and she'll be right

seafoam will take a tank or two.

if you want to hurry it along some, drain the carb, pump the seafoam directly into the carb.  walley world has a mixmaster syringe in the rv section.

and every month or so, put a ounce of seafoam in to keep the carb clean.

Title: Re: My 200.00 savage  deal or no deal?
Post by aphico on 06/03/10 at 17:41:05

I was doing that while you were typing,  eveything you said so far has been dead knuttz.  I took the line off the tank and shot it in there with an ink cartridge suringe.  went around the block again.  it back fires and broke up as soon as i shifted in to second stalled, down shifted and it started right up again.    but holy nuts,  this little thing is quick,  you have to hold on to it.  I think i'm going to take the carb apart and clean it nice, blow it all out,  it's definitely worth doing.  I think there was water in the tank, maybe from sitting.  i don't know any history of this bike,  except it sat in a garage for 4 yrs.    gas felt weak.  black smoke stopped though.  

Title: Re: My 200.00 savage  deal or no deal?
Post by verslagen1 on 06/03/10 at 19:18:29

well then drain it, put it in your least liked neighbors car.   [smiley=evil.gif]

and after you clean the carb it should run great.  and remember, if 1st you don't succeed, try try again.  I think the 1st time I had it in and out several times before it ran great.

Title: Re: My 200.00 savage  deal or no deal?
Post by aphico on 06/03/10 at 20:40:24

rusted tank and water gas was brown.  I looked in there with a light,  its not pretty.  all rusted.  I'm going to try and get the filter off and cleaned too.  No gas when the pet thingy is in the on position, but comes out pretty good on the prime position.  

Title: Re: My 200.00 savage  deal or no deal?
Post by verslagen1 on 06/03/10 at 21:12:55

that's the way it's supposed to work, lucky you.

derust it as best you can

do a search, a number of posts to tell you how.

Title: Re: My 200.00 savage  deal or no deal?
Post by aphico on 06/04/10 at 11:21:05

okay,  I cleaned the tank,  drained all the bad gas, and put in fresh high test.  plus more seafoam.  that didn't work.   I noticed that there are two (vacuum? line ports) on each side of the carb, pointing towards the rear.  not the fuel inlet or the pet "thingy" vacuum.   they are in the rear and had  a hose going to each  other.  I can't see where they are suspose to go,  and I figured looping to each other couldn't be right.  disconected one side the idle smoothed out and i was able to tack it up.  took it about a mile,  clutch seems to slip now and  i don't know where the lines go.  tried plugging and it went back to back firing and stalling.   the clymers shows the port fitting but not where it goes?  "had it up to 70mph though.

Title: Re: My 200.00 savage  deal or no deal?
Post by verslagen1 on 06/04/10 at 11:27:14

Those are vents, don't connect to anything.
stock lines are long enough to stick up into the frame above the carb.
this way when you are upside down gas won't trickle up your nose.

had it up to 70, sounds like you got it fixed.

clutch slipping? do you have free play at the lever? should be about 1/8"

Title: Re: My 200.00 savage  deal or no deal?
Post by aphico on 06/04/10 at 12:09:12

yeeeeaaa budddddy,  that was it...   I can't beleive it.  I only seen that line, cause i was gonna try to surynge some seafoam in there.  it started pretty goodnow, and idles kinda high,  but  okay.  no smoke, and i can tack it up to full throttle.

clutch definitely slips and top end in every gear.  has real good pull at low end though.    no play at the lever and it lets out way off the bar. pretty much at the end of lever travel.    odometer says only 5032.  so....  hoping for an adjustment. or do you think i need new?

Title: Re: My 200.00 savage  deal or no deal?
Post by aphico on 06/04/10 at 13:44:11

okay,  now,  adjust the cable best it could be according to the clymer, much better where it grabs now, and alot better than before at top end.
hit 70 again.   I put good oil and clean the filter (I know) but it i can't get one right now.  so it beats a blank.  this little thing is a blast to ride.  kinda want to get it on a highway.  and see how it does wieght wise, and at a steady 70.  

anyone need a 95 side stand  and switch. or compression release.  I need a battery side cover and  a left frame cover.  some apes or maybe riseers for drags  i have the drags...

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