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Message started by Big Luke on 05/28/10 at 21:48:18

Title: Sudden shut down on freeway
Post by Big Luke on 05/28/10 at 21:48:18

  A couple of weeks ago, my bike suddenly shut down on the freeway on my way home from work. It was as if I had hit the kill switch and it did not sputter as if it had ran out of gas.

  I pulled over to the median and tried to resart her... no luck. **It did not run out of gas. That was the first thing I thought of. Tried starting it and the starter turned and turned but nothing more than that.  The bike is now at home and I still can't get her to start.

This is what I have done so far:
-it has gas
-pulled and cleaned carb
-spark plug has spark

As soon as I can get a compression tester i will try that next. In the mean time I am asking for any ideas as I am not sure what else to do.

Title: Re: Sudden shut down on freeway
Post by earlytimz on 05/28/10 at 22:03:31

el cheapo compression tester:
http://www.harborfreight.com/flex-drive-compression-tester-92697.html

If you're sure it's getting gas...
and you're sure it's getting spark...
I would check the timing next & then the compression.

Tell us about your bike. Year? Mileage? etc..

Title: Re: Sudden shut down on freeway
Post by Serowbot on 05/28/10 at 22:07:14

First,.. if you've been cranking a while and not had fire,... pull the spark plug, and squirt a teaspoon of oil into the cylinder... it may have lost compression do to gas wash in the chamber...
Second,... just for me,... unplug and replug,... the clutch lever ignition cutout... (2 wire connector, at the hand lever,..)...
Third,... check the vacuum line that runs from the right side of the carb, up to the rear of the petcock,... make sure it's secure and has no leaks or cracks...

Then try starting again...
if that don't do it,... report back...

Title: Re: Sudden shut down on freeway
Post by BurnPgh on 05/28/10 at 22:12:18

check your vacuum line between the petcock and carb. ANY little scratch or hole can cause what you describe. It happened to me and countless others. Replace the line with one thats more stout.

Title: Re: Sudden shut down on freeway
Post by Big Luke on 05/28/10 at 22:29:48

It is a 2006 with just under 20k miles. I bought it in 2008 with 746 miles on it. I mainly ride to and from work, 40 miles each way.

I will get the tester from harbor freight tomorrow and replace the vacuum tube.

Title: Re: Sudden shut down on freeway
Post by verslagen1 on 05/28/10 at 22:30:39

next time you try to start, put it in prime, carb is likely empty.

Also, 1st thing to try anytime it sputters or just dies is to put it in prime.

on the freeway, going like the wind, the carb empties very quickly.

Title: Re: Sudden shut down on freeway
Post by stinger on 05/29/10 at 00:13:03

i had that problem once and for days i was dumb founded. then i tightned the bolt at the bottom of the kickstand and it fired right up. if its loose, the bike just dies as if you had let the kickstand down while running. at least check it. most likely your vacuum hose tho

Title: Re: Sudden shut down on freeway
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/29/10 at 03:45:50

& if youve never done the cam chain, you better have a look at it.

Title: Re: Sudden shut down on freeway
Post by Routy on 05/29/10 at 05:58:23

If it sounds normal while cranking, I would not suspect a compression or valve timing problem.

W/o any sputtering, I would normally not suspect a fuel problem. But if it has spark, I guess it would have to be,.....either that, or spark timing.

The carb itself would be the last thing I would have suspected.

Title: Re: Sudden shut down on freeway
Post by Horatio Hawkshaw on 05/29/10 at 07:24:33

Mine did that a couple of times when I first got it- first time it was the kickstand switch. Second time, the ground wire on the battery had come loose. I bypassed the switch and eventually replaced the battery.

Title: Re: Sudden shut down on freeway
Post by Phelonius on 05/29/10 at 09:20:23

I would bet on either the clutch cutout, or the kickstand cutout.
I consider both of those to be solutions to non existent problems.

If you try to ride away with the kickstand down, the bike will train you not to.
If you try to start the bike in gear, he bike will rain you not to.

That's the way it was for the first 80 years of motorcycling, until some idiot lawmaker who should not even be on a bike had it happen and instead of learning for himself, he passed a law so that the manufacturer must include these cutouts so that he won't have to actually learn the correct way to start his machine.

Phelonius

Title: Re: Sudden shut down on freeway
Post by ero4444 on 05/29/10 at 09:48:55

I've stalled 2-3 times at highway speed - real fast, no stumble, but it's NEVER happened on prime.  So I'm pretty sure the raptor will fix it.

Title: Re: Sudden shut down on freeway
Post by earlytimz on 05/29/10 at 11:36:28

If he is FOR SURE getting spark, doesn't that rule out the safely switches??

Title: Re: Sudden shut down on freeway
Post by Serowbot on 05/29/10 at 12:05:09


6F6B7866737E6367700A0 wrote:
If he is FOR SURE getting spark, doesn't that rule out the safely switches??

Logically yes,... but those guys can be very intermittent when they first start to go bad...
...and they can fool ya'...

How do I know this?... :-?...

Title: Re: Sudden shut down on freeway
Post by Phelonius on 05/29/10 at 15:05:19


4E584F524A5F52493D0 wrote:
[quote author=6F6B7866737E6367700A0 link=1275108498/0#12 date=1275158188]If he is FOR SURE getting spark, doesn't that rule out the safely switches??

Logically yes,... but those guys can be very intermittent when they first start to go bad...
...and they can fool ya'...

How do I know this?... :-?...[/quote]
Possibly, it could be intermittent.  But that does point more towards fuel.

Phelonius

Title: Re: Sudden shut down on freeway
Post by mick on 05/29/10 at 16:21:09

I had a similar problem,so I took the carb off again,rinsed it off with clean gas,cleaned the slide, I took the jet out and there was a rock in there ,I tiny piece of grit that would bloc gas,but it was the main jet,the bike did idle,so sorry that is not the problem,just a thought.
Does it idle ?

Title: Re: Sudden shut down on freeway
Post by earlytimz on 05/29/10 at 19:31:13

Or timing... 20k miles on that bike...

Title: Re: Sudden shut down on freeway
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/30/10 at 04:58:13

So far, no mention of cam chain maintenance. Need to know about that.

Title: Re: Sudden shut down on freeway
Post by verslagen1 on 05/30/10 at 07:49:16

ok, mentioned, now here's the link...

http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1191167029

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