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Message started by Edgar on 05/10/10 at 10:58:28

Title: Is this bad???
Post by Edgar on 05/10/10 at 10:58:28

there are brackets holding the tank to the frame, its broken off

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c102/edgar_cmd/d70b87b5.jpg

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c102/edgar_cmd/cb4a04fa.jpg

then theres this valve on the carb with no hose on it

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c102/edgar_cmd/76200245-1.jpg

Im new and had lots of questions already, sorry if its annoying anyone! I bought this 86 savage for $700 and im just hoping i didnt get ripped off. It seems to run ok (im waiting on a big crank battery though) and under the engine is dirty as hell. Then i find these little things wrong with it. Thanks in advance

Title: Re: Is this bad???
Post by Serowbot on 05/10/10 at 11:16:19

That hose nipple is a vent tube,.. it should have a hose on it, running up to the frame above the carb, there's a matching one on the other side... it connects to nothing but it is important...
Just make sure the hose end is higher than the carb...

As far as the tank mount,.. you are going to have to secure your tank somehow, but if the tank don't leak, you can use a strap or whatever,... or get that tab welded back on...

Title: Re: Is this bad???
Post by verslagen1 on 05/10/10 at 11:23:02

Get yourself a can of engine cleaner and go to it.

most likely you'll find it leaks oil. I think I would charged him a C note just to clean it. If he didn't want to clean, either he didn't care or was hiding something.

Broken bracket on tank, I'd pick up a used tank depending on how well that one looks. Otherwise you need some way of securing the back of the tank.

missing hose on carb, that's a vent, usually a stiff length of hose that sticks up into the frame above the carb, identical one on the other side.

Title: Re: Is this bad???
Post by Edgar on 05/10/10 at 11:42:29

So I can probably get that missing hose on Bike bandit huh. The tank is perfect except for the missing bracket and some faded paint. I was planning on painting it anyway. I guess I'll have to search eBay for a new tank. This sucks though! Did I get a bad deal?

Title: Re: Is this bad???
Post by babyhog on 05/10/10 at 11:52:09

This Ebay seller usually has lots of Savage parts. Have never heard anyone say anything bad about them, and they are pretty reasonably priced... me thinks...
http://motors.shop.ebay.com/pinwall_cycle_parts/m.html?_nkw=ls650&_sacat=&_odkw=&_osacat=0&bkBtn=&_trksid=p3911.m270.l1313

They have 5 tanks listed right now. $19.95-$39.95

If the bike is running even halfway decent, $700 sounds like a deal to me. With a little help from the folks here, you can do alot of the fixing up yourself on the cheap. Don't be discouraged.

Title: Re: Is this bad???
Post by BurnPgh on 05/10/10 at 11:55:57

The hose you can get at any hardware store for very little money. The bracket doesnt necessarily need to be welded but that would be best. If you're going to repaint anyway when you sand the tank sand the section underneath where the bracket goes and liberally apply a good epoxy or fiberglass resin mix. Dont get the 5 minute stuff. Get the strongest ated one you can. JB would probably work too. All can be found at the same hardware stoe you get the hose at.

Title: Re: Is this bad???
Post by verslagen1 on 05/10/10 at 11:56:55

you can use common vac hose but you might have to tie it inplace.

bad deal? 700 ain't bad, but you got some work to do to make it a great deal.
If you can do it [smiley=thumbsup.gif]
If you can't [smiley=thumbdown.gif]

How many miles?

Title: Re: Is this bad???
Post by Edgar on 05/10/10 at 12:26:18

I'd like to epoxy it or weld it but I do t have the bracket. At $20, maybe I'll buy one of those tanks, thanks for that eBay link!!!

The few times I ran it before the battery died, it ran and started up just fine

I was looking at the other side of the carb and that same valve thing has a hose attatched to it that just hangs down aimed at the ground. Is that what it's supposed to looke like?

The miles are marked at 19,420

Title: Re: Is this bad???
Post by Routy on 05/10/10 at 13:39:37

Well, if ya decide to weld it, fill that sucker w/ water,......or have a vacuum hose stuck in it ! I learned the hard way !

Title: Re: Is this bad???
Post by thumperclone on 05/10/10 at 17:07:46

from your photos im seein broken off bracket bolts if so get an easy out and get some new bolts you can fab your own bracket (new is better) $700 good deal if shell run ..

Title: Re: Is this bad???
Post by Serowbot on 05/10/10 at 18:14:45

0F2E2D2B384A0 wrote:

I was looking at the other side of the carb and that same valve thing has a hose attatched to it that just hangs down aimed at the ground. Is that what it's supposed to looke like?

Those tubes have to go up.... They must be higher than the top of the carb at the ends.... stick them up along the frame, under the tank, attached to nothing...

Title: Re: Is this bad???
Post by Edgar on 05/12/10 at 00:21:00

im going to clean up the bottom of the engine, its all greasy. I have car engine cleaner, should i just go at it with a tire brush? is it ok to wet everything when i rinse it?

Title: Re: Is this bad???
Post by 12Bravo on 05/12/10 at 06:20:08

You should be ok using a garden hose. I use a nozzle with multiple settings and have it set on mist, haven't messed anything up yet.

Title: Re: Is this bad???
Post by Yonuh Adisi on 05/12/10 at 09:30:11

6445464053210 wrote:

im going to clean up the bottom of the engine, its all greasy. I have car engine cleaner, should i just go at it with a tire brush? is it ok to wet everything when i rinse it?

Just let it sit and dry for a while before you try to start it after rinsing it, just in case you get some electronic components wet. Other wise I don't think there is a problem.

Title: Re: Is this bad???
Post by 12Bravo on 05/12/10 at 19:01:35

As long as all the electrical connections are tight and sealed, shouldn't be a problem. I have rode in some pretty hard down pours without any problems.

Title: Re: Is this bad???
Post by Edgar on 05/13/10 at 21:19:46

well i got her all cleaned up, no more grease!

Found that the stiff hose on the valve on the other side was about 9inches long so i cut it in half and used the other half for the naked valve.

still figuring out what im gonna do about the broken bracket on the gas tank, but more than likely JB weld something together.

One more question, what kind of fuel is best for these bikes? I only use shell for my car, so im planning on it for the bike as wel, but what grade do you guys recommend?

Title: Re: Is this bad???
Post by verslagen1 on 05/13/10 at 21:30:15

regular