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Message started by crash_tx on 05/05/10 at 13:52:31

Title: A Rigid Savage
Post by crash_tx on 05/05/10 at 13:52:31

Just finished a current project to develop a rigid frame for the Suzuki Savage. Thought I'd throw some pics at you guys to see what you think!

I need to post a regular message before I can post pics, so pics are to come!

Looking forward to hearing from you!!!

Title: Re: A Rigid Savage
Post by crash_tx on 05/05/10 at 13:54:35

Here's some of the pics...

http://www.voodoovintage.biz/CL/IMG_6708.jpg

http://www.voodoovintage.biz/CL/IMG_6652.jpg

http://www.voodoovintage.biz/CL/IMG_6661.jpg

http://www.voodoovintage.biz/CL/IMG_6686.jpg

Looking forward to hearing from you!!!

Title: Re: A Rigid Savage
Post by Scott_H on 05/05/10 at 14:01:12

That bike is what I hope mine looks like some day. It is friggin' sweet! Can I have it? ;)

Title: Re: A Rigid Savage
Post by Serowbot on 05/05/10 at 14:06:22

No way my back could handle it, but looks great!... love that rear fender... ;)...

Title: Re: A Rigid Savage
Post by pitbullcustoms on 05/05/10 at 14:34:15

The bike is sick you must have read my mind because thats is what i have wanted mine to look like from the day i bought it! different colors but same look!!!

Title: Re: A Rigid Savage
Post by crash_tx on 05/05/10 at 14:36:13

Lovin' the response guys! Thank you!

Title: Re: A Rigid Savage
Post by james may on 05/05/10 at 14:41:02

looks great are you planning on selling frames or do you have blueprints I'd love one of those frames.. Accept for the control mount you mounted them standard.. looks squishy..

Title: Re: A Rigid Savage
Post by jef.savage on 05/05/10 at 14:45:12

beautiful!

Title: Re: A Rigid Savage
Post by crash_tx on 05/05/10 at 14:48:47

As soon as I finish a few "tweaks" to the design, I will move over into "Manufacture Mode". I would love to offer these frames around the $700 neighborhood with MSO's. For anyone intending to use their current neck tube (with VIN already stamped), they could purchase a "headless" frame for around 550 and weld their own neck tube on and avoid any hassles at the DMV!

I tried a weld-on hard tail section... (didn't have the finished look I was hoping for...)

Title: Re: A Rigid Savage
Post by crash_tx on 05/05/10 at 14:54:36

4E4F545F484E434A5F3A0 wrote:

looks great are you planning on selling frames or do you have blueprints I'd love one of those frames.. Accept for the control mount you mounted them standard.. looks squishy..

Yeah... This bike is NOT for the tall and lanky! :) I'm 6' even and look a little funny to my wife when I'm riding it! One of the "tweaks" I'm performing is extending the axle plates out 2.5" and installing a 16" rear rim with a 27" Coker Classic Firestone Replica rear tire! Old Skewel!

Title: Re: A Rigid Savage
Post by John_D FSO on 05/05/10 at 17:33:08

Very cool! 8-)

Title: Re: A Rigid Savage
Post by JohnBoy on 05/05/10 at 18:44:46

crash_tx, I got to say, that is one pretty bike!
Good job man!!!

Title: Re: A Rigid Savage
Post by dasch on 05/05/10 at 18:51:46

I like this a lot too!! :)

Title: Re: A Rigid Savage
Post by crash_tx on 05/05/10 at 19:16:31

Hey... Thanks a lot guys! Means a lot to a new member to receive such welcome!!!

Title: Re: A Rigid Savage
Post by verslagen1 on 05/05/10 at 19:20:29

Really nice 8-)
nice touch usin' the stock tank.
head tube make cringe though, needs reinforcement to my eye.
love the rear fender, mid controls and a center stand.
the muf works, but I'd prefer it low only cause the case looks like something missing. Wrappin' the pipe thru there would be mandatory for me, that's layin' right on the oil passage.
Hmmm, a 2" diameter oil reservoir or external spin on filter would fit where the pipe was.

Title: Re: A Rigid Savage
Post by mikelhsr1982 on 05/05/10 at 21:45:27

Man, all I have to say is that is one sexy savage.

Title: Re: A Rigid Savage
Post by jarrod on 05/06/10 at 04:17:29

Did you make your own fender and see or find something online? I am going for a look like this only I am using the stock frame. Awesome looking!!

Title: Re: A Rigid Savage
Post by crash_tx on 05/06/10 at 07:49:52

5155575950544F4E0D05040E3C0 wrote:

Man, all I have to say is that is one sexy savage.

Hey... That's a good name for her! "Sexy Savage"! Ha ha ha!

Thanks for the compliment!

Title: Re: A Rigid Savage
Post by crash_tx on 05/06/10 at 07:53:05

686370706D666F616F6B6E6E6B636C020 wrote:

Did you make your own fender and see or find something online? I am going for a look like this only I am using the stock frame. Awesome looking!!

Actually... It was an old Kawasaki C2 rear fender I got from Ebay for $18. I split it in half and welded a 2" strap down the middle. The strap provided support and ended up being an acceptable look also!!!

You can find a lot of the old enduro-style chrome fenders on ebay for the $20 neighborhood!

Title: Re: A Rigid Savage
Post by kel30734 on 05/06/10 at 07:59:22

you even have Serowbot's Bicycle pegs

Title: Re: A Rigid Savage
Post by crash_tx on 05/06/10 at 08:01:24

475443425D5056545F00310 wrote:

Although I'm confident in my welding... When I'm burning 65mph- I can't say the thought hasn't crossed my mind... "What would happen if the darn neck tube broke off???" :-?

I haven't experienced any "flex" in the design, but on future builds I intend to use a small gusset at the connection. Or maybe a cross-support further down the backbone and down tubes. This photo is similar to a design I'm working on. I really like the "clean" look!

http://www.voodoovintage.biz/CL/100_2124.jpg

Title: Re: A Rigid Savage
Post by dasch on 05/06/10 at 08:49:07

Crash, this one is grand too! Is this also your work??

Title: Re: A Rigid Savage
Post by verslagen1 on 05/06/10 at 09:07:42

yummm, like those big tires.
But I'd have to ride one before I ever thought about buying one.
Some of the roads I take are too much for me even with the stock suspension.

Title: Re: A Rigid Savage
Post by buttgoat1 on 05/06/10 at 09:25:01

most impressive!
I really like the look but can't do the hardtail though.

Title: Re: A Rigid Savage
Post by Rocco on 05/06/10 at 12:38:24

wicked!!!! i LOVE the front fender, gonna trim mine here shortly!!

Title: Re: A Rigid Savage
Post by dasch on 05/06/10 at 13:40:58

wicked, that's right... the more I look at it... that is one wicked savage you built there. Good to have you here.

Title: Re: A Rigid Savage
Post by heshjay on 05/06/10 at 14:58:03

Yes!!!!!!!!
Loving the mids, wanting to run some high mids once I get my build (whatever you want to call it) going!
Ever thought about doing less rake with a springer to Tbars?

Title: Re: A Rigid Savage
Post by Savage_Amusement on 05/06/10 at 17:26:05

That is what I am talking about, FANTASTIC WORK!!!!

Title: Re: A Rigid Savage
Post by smokin_blue on 05/06/10 at 18:00:35

Honestly not my personal style , but a great build! It has great clean lines. That is key to a sweet custom. Keep up the good work!

Title: Re: A Rigid Savage
Post by DeadLast on 05/07/10 at 12:46:50

Abesolutley amazing! I want the savage I dont even own yet to look like that when I'm done. Is the chain conversion hard to do?

Title: Re: A Rigid Savage
Post by crash_tx on 05/07/10 at 16:10:14

436266634B667473070 wrote:

Abesolutley amazing! I want the savage I dont even own yet to look like that when I'm done. Is the chain conversion hard to do?

Not at all! About $110 bucks worth of stuff from Bike Bandit and a couple large washers from Lowes, and you're good to go! Be sure to purchase the 530/120 chain and front and rear sprockets for the '89 GS550! It's a direct bolt-on application!!!

There's a great thread in the technical section these guys have put together. Just browse through it and you'll find the thread for a chain conversion!

Title: Re: A Rigid Savage
Post by crash_tx on 05/07/10 at 16:15:19

474A5C47454E562F0 wrote:

Yes!!!!!!!!
Loving the mids, wanting to run some high mids once I get my build (whatever you want to call it) going!
Ever thought about doing less rake with a springer to Tbars?

Oh yeah! I've thought about doing a LOT of things with it. Unfortunately, this was a prototype build just to develop the frame for production and I need to get a little money back in the company as soon as possible.

Otherwise... I would have went with a 2" under springer front end, a wassell tank, 16" rear rim with Firestone Replica tires, and a custom vintage style headlight with side mounts.

But in all, I just wanted to show potential customers how it could look using ONLY their stock components...

Thanks again EVERYONE for the great comments!

Title: Re: A Rigid Savage
Post by klx650sm2002 on 05/08/10 at 10:18:58

They are two cool lookin' rides, I'm impressed, very impressed.
Clive W :)

Title: Re: A Rigid Savage
Post by verslagen1 on 05/08/10 at 17:45:00

6E6B7C636E7865730A0 wrote:

For anyone intending to use their current neck tube (with VIN already stamped), they could purchase a "headless" frame for around 550 and weld their own neck tube on and avoid any hassles at the DMV!

You should look for wrecked frames, they might be had for very little.

Title: Re: A Rigid Savage
Post by M38A1 on 05/08/10 at 17:56:12

I'm not sure I could ride one, but man-o-man that looks nice!

Is the paint an olive drab or gray/silver, or are there two bikes?

Where in AUS are you? I'd love to come by and see the operation.

Title: Re: A Rigid Savage
Post by mick on 05/08/10 at 18:36:03

I like the center stand. but that's all ,I never did understand why people would get rid of perfectly good rear suspension, I wouldn't like to ride much more than ten miles on it,BTW looks like your rear brake
is just about the end of it's travel, sorry guy just not my cup of tea.

Title: Re: A Rigid Savage
Post by Savage_Amusement on 05/08/10 at 19:32:54

Umm mick, you can adjust it to sit how ever you want to. The rear brake that is.

Title: Re: A Rigid Savage
Post by crash_tx on 05/09/10 at 10:10:15

7709027B0B3A0 wrote:

I'm not sure I could ride one, but man-o-man that looks nice!

Is the paint an olive drab or gray/silver, or are there two bikes?

Where in AUS are you? I'd love to come by and see the operation.

It's an olive drab with a metallic clear coat. Honestly, I liked the flat olive drab better... but I was worried about greasy finger prints and such! Oh... and I didn't have any flat clear coat in my arsenal !

I'm located NW Austin just off Parmer Lane. I operate out of my two-car garage right now. It's completely overflowing with equipment and bikes!!! I have secured a shop on Pond Springs but will not be able to move into it until this August! Sucks!!!

Title: Re: A Rigid Savage
Post by Scott_H on 05/09/10 at 10:16:41

Yet another question...

What did you use to make the "T" for the dual air cleaners? Those are very slick!

Title: Re: A Rigid Savage
Post by crash_tx on 05/09/10 at 10:20:49

62666C647B676A6366626A760F0 wrote:

Hey Mick!

Yeah... the center stand is GREAT! I didn't know if I'd like it much, but it's turned out to be a valued addition. I fabricated the center stand because I wanted to keep the frame clean as possible.

Sorry you don't like the style! I suppose if everyone liked this style... everyone would be riding a rigid! It's an "old-school thing" ya know... ;) Personally, I don't care for those "West Coast Chopper Ground Pounders", but you still have to respect the guys who hammer these things out! Takes a lot of work, talent, patience, and money regardless of your favorite style. Now... if I could just acquire the "money" part of the equation! ;D

Title: Re: A Rigid Savage
Post by jarrod on 05/09/10 at 11:16:14

If you were to use the foot pegs in the stock location, would your leg hit the exhaust? I am wanting to do something like that but don't want to even start unless I know it will work, finding exhaust pipe here in Germany is a pain!

Title: Re: A Rigid Savage
Post by crash_tx on 05/10/10 at 12:05:37

303B2828353E373937333636333B345A0 wrote:

You should have plenty clearance from the exhaust using the stock forward control location. The main reason I prefer mid-controls is that when you have your feet way out in front of you, your bum is at the mercy of every little bump! By having your feet directly under your center of gravity, you can easily raise your weight from the seat when passing over a speed bump or a pot-hole. Makes it a little easier on the tail bone! This should not be an issue if you intend to keep the factory rear suspension though...

Title: Re: A Rigid Savage
Post by suzi-q on 05/10/10 at 12:16:57

wow nice savage and tr6 too. mark

Title: Re: A Rigid Savage
Post by suzi-q on 05/10/10 at 12:18:56

hey. just noticed the gas gauge. love it. mark

Title: Re: A Rigid Savage
Post by EJID on 05/11/10 at 17:15:38

First, I have to say that you have done a great job in creating a clean lined hard tail that many people will probably drool over!!!

Looking at the pics though, what's the tube under the seat for? (I'm guessing it's just a stash box for tools/registration/etc) :-?

http://www.voodoovintage.biz/CL/IMG_6652.jpg

Title: Re: A Rigid Savage
Post by crash_tx on 05/11/10 at 18:00:47

0C03000D490 wrote:

Thank you for the compliment! The tube (or can) under the seat is the electronics box. It houses the fire-pack and the starter solenoid. It also contains the yards and yards of unused wire from the original harness. The reason I left the harness intact: you can install turn signals and a decomp solenoid if you like. I never intended on keeping the bike, but I have to admit... I'm starting to REALLY like it! Maybe I'll trim down the wiring harness and install a Wassell tank! Oh... and a 16" rear wheel!

Title: Re: A Rigid Savage
Post by dasch on 05/13/10 at 08:47:43

Crash, would you mind if i posted these pics to another web site??? I think more people MUST to see these two. What' ya think?

Title: Re: A Rigid Savage
Post by BurnPgh on 05/13/10 at 11:14:58

I love the look but have no interest in a hardtail. Ever considered trying a plunger frame? Hardtail look that sissys like myself would enjoy. Id definately buy up a plunger frame for the savage (checkbook permitting).

Title: Re: A Rigid Savage
Post by caseyLA on 05/13/10 at 21:22:50

Very nice work from a fellow Texan, I like it. :)

I was thinking about swinging the exhaust up like that for a Savage street tracker. Looks good.

Any issues with not using the decompression solenoid?

Title: Re: A Rigid Savage
Post by LostArtist on 05/13/10 at 22:51:05

sweet ride man!!! :D :D :D

Title: Re: A Rigid Savage
Post by earlytimz on 05/14/10 at 12:13:51

Low and dirty! Just like I like 'em... Killer!!

Title: Re: A Rigid Savage
Post by crash_tx on 05/15/10 at 10:10:26

6C697B6B60080 wrote:

Crash, would you mind if i posted these pics to another web site??? I think more people MUST to see these two. What' ya think?

It would be my pleasure! Show them off!!! ;)

Title: Re: A Rigid Savage
Post by crash_tx on 05/15/10 at 10:14:06

6F585F437D4A452D0 wrote:

Well... The whole purpose of the rigid frame is to reduce the clutter and make the bike as clean as possible. Having a softail with a single shock would might not be much removed from the original assembly. Check out this thread! http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1264727267 and you might see the complexity involved! Nice work on this bike!

Title: Re: A Rigid Savage
Post by crash_tx on 05/15/10 at 10:16:57

72706274685D50110 wrote:

I was a "little" worried about it at first, but after seeing how the assembly functions, I realized that as long as there is no tension on the decomp cam, there is no effect on the valve clearance. I left my cable connected just in case I need to relieve the pressure at some point. I have not needed to so far...

Title: Re: A Rigid Savage
Post by crash_tx on 05/15/10 at 10:19:05

717566786D607D796E140 wrote:

Low and dirty! Just like I like 'em... Killer!!

Thanks man! By the way... very nice work on the chop!!! I like the white!

Title: Re: A Rigid Savage
Post by dasch on 05/15/10 at 13:24:02

292C3B24293F22344D0 wrote:

[quote author=6C697B6B60080 link=1273092751/45#46 date=1273765663]Crash, would you mind if i posted these pics to another web site??? I think more people MUST to see these two. What' ya think?

It would be my pleasure! Show them off!!! ;)[/quote]

You're somewhere on this page. Out of 150!! Whoever likes bobbers - enjoy.
http://www.bobbertalk.com/viewtopic.php?t=2793&start=2250

Title: Re: A Rigid Savage
Post by crash_tx on 05/16/10 at 06:59:49

5D584A5A51390 wrote:

[quote author=292C3B24293F22344D0 link=1273092751/45#51 date=1273943426][quote author=6C697B6B60080 link=1273092751/45#46 date=1273765663]Crash, would you mind if i posted these pics to another web site??? I think more people MUST to see these two. What' ya think?

It would be my pleasure! Show them off!!! ;)[/quote]

You're somewhere on this page. Out of 150!! Whoever likes bobbers - enjoy.
http://www.bobbertalk.com/viewtopic.php?t=2793&start=2250 [/quote]

This was one of the coolest sites I've seen! I'll be joining for sure!!! Thanks again!

Title: Re: A Rigid Savage
Post by dasch on 05/16/10 at 07:23:51

;) no problem, Crash.

...cool, huh? 150+ pages of pure elbow grease and skills!!

Title: Re: A Rigid Savage
Post by Savage_Amusement on 06/01/10 at 13:27:50

I'm digging that frame job! Wishing I could muster up the funds to make the swap. Good work my friend!

Title: Re: A Rigid Savage
Post by crash_tx on 06/01/10 at 13:42:32

705C415D564140475C415600030303330 wrote:

I'm digging that frame job! Wishing I could muster up the funds to make the swap. Good work my friend!

Hey- You're welcome buddy!!! You could do an entire rebuild (including my frame) for around $1500! Let me know when you're ready and I'll have you cut off your neck tube and mail it to me. I'll return your custom frame in a week or so!

Title: Re: A Rigid Savage
Post by Savage_Amusement on 06/01/10 at 13:46:55

I'll be keeping that in mind for sure. I'm about done with my current setup, I have to figure out how to make my rear (trailer) fender float with the swing frame I don't want it to be mounted to the rest of the body so it can sit lower to the rear wheel and still carry a passenger. Then work out a seat for myself. So maybe down the line I'll pick up another Savage/S40 and use the fame for that.

Title: Re: A Rigid Savage
Post by verslagen1 on 06/01/10 at 14:07:07

If you had a sporty tank that held 4 1/2 to 5 gals for that price and you'd have a winner.
Best we can do is convert to a VN750 tank.

Title: Re: A Rigid Savage
Post by Micvicpel on 06/17/10 at 16:49:44

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IB6r9essK4U&feature=related
^^^^^^^^
This is a video I found on youtube of what I hope to build using the rigid frame and guidelines from you guys here on the forum. I'll create a seperate theard along with a rendering of what I hope it to look like when I'm done. Thanks to crash for building a wicked awesome bike!!!! 8-)