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Message started by Tiefighterpilot on 04/30/10 at 20:46:34

Title: removing existing muffler clamp bolt-NEED help
Post by Tiefighterpilot on 04/30/10 at 20:46:34

I am trying to remove the existing stock muffler. I didnt remove the header pipe.

I got the two nuts holding the rear muffler bolts removed. The bolt looks like it stuck or part of the muffler...

I am trying to remove the bolt on the clamp (between the header pipe and muffler). the heat shield is still on, as I can't get to the screws (two on the rear part of the heat shield attached to the muffler.

The heat shield gives very little room to use a wrench on the clamp's bolt. what can I use on such a tight space?

Does this sound typical? I have 2007 S40.

Thanks for your help.

Title: Re: removing existing muffler clamp bolt-NEED help
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/01/10 at 02:43:59

remove the heat shield & get some room to work with

Title: Re: removing existing muffler clamp bolt-NEED help
Post by Tiefighterpilot on 05/01/10 at 03:09:25

Did you have to remove the exhaust from the bike? I can't get to the screws on the heat shield without removing the whole exhaust from the bike.

Title: Re: removing existing muffler clamp bolt-NEED help
Post by babyhog on 05/01/10 at 05:23:02

4C717D7E717F706C7D6A687174776C180 wrote:

Did you have to remove the exhaust from the bike? I can't get to the screws on the heat shield without removing the whole exhaust from the bike.

I didn't remove the header and was able to get the heat shield off. Wish I could remember exactly how, sorry.

Title: Re: removing existing muffler clamp bolt-NEED help
Post by verslagen1 on 05/01/10 at 08:31:37

You'll want the exhaust off to work on it.

You can see from the link that once you have the header and muff off, access to the heat shield clamp and two screws the heat shield will come off.

http://www.bikebandit.com/2000-suzuki-motorcycle-ls650py-savage-muffler/o/m6332sch244968

Title: Re: removing existing muffler clamp bolt-NEED help
Post by Tiefighterpilot on 05/01/10 at 10:29:04

Thanks everyone!

Is replacing header gasket required or only if damaged?

Title: Re: removing existing muffler clamp bolt-NEED help
Post by verslagen1 on 05/01/10 at 11:24:24

only if damaged, but if ordering would be worth to have a spare on hand.

Title: Re: removing existing muffler clamp bolt-NEED help
Post by EJID on 05/01/10 at 11:42:51

When I put my Dyna muff on mine, I removed the heat shield when I took off the stock muffler without any problem. When I put the new muff on, I had trouble getting it lined up as many other had, but someone suggested loosening the header bolts and you can rotate the header pipe slightly for a better angle. After doing that I was able to line things up better for a solid fit. I did find out on the first ride after doing that adjustment that I hadn't tightened down the header bolts enough and she was a popping and banging quite a bit. The next day I tightened them up more and it solved the problem.
:) :) :)

Title: Re: removing existing muffler clamp bolt-NEED help
Post by MrBrownTX on 08/05/11 at 18:08:07

Is there a trick to take the moffler off while leaving the header pipe on? I was trying to avoid that for the sake of not messing up the gasket and the seal. However I cannot seem to get at the muffler clamp bolt.

Title: Re: removing existing muffler clamp bolt-NEED help
Post by mmosel on 08/05/11 at 20:10:59

It's very hard to get the heat shield off without taking the whole exhaust off. I just did it this week. Just take the whole thing off, MUCH easier. Putting the header pipe back on is a no-brainer. Just make sure it's positioned right before tightening it back down.

Title: Re: removing existing muffler clamp bolt-NEED help
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/06/11 at 05:17:23

Jerking & banging on the header while the whole thing is held up by those 2 puny little bolts just doesnt seem like a grand idea to me. If the muffler isnt stuck hard, okay,, but I wouldnt be getting too rough with it while its mounted. Maybe its no big deal,, IDK, but I feel like its not a great idea. Anyone else have an opinion on it?

Title: Re: removing existing muffler clamp bolt-NEED help
Post by arteacher on 08/06/11 at 06:51:30

I would take the whole thing off too. Chances are you will loosen up the head gasket, or worse, bend the bolts, reefing on the muffler to get it off with the header still on. Also, for the sake of two more bolts, you can stand up to work on it, rather than farting around on the floor getting into wierd contortions trying to get at things. ;D

Title: Re: removing existing muffler clamp bolt-NEED help
Post by Gyrobob on 08/06/11 at 07:44:33

2E2E2C30262F430 wrote:

36292F2835320333033B29256E5C0 wrote:

7F74747D717E7F6564100 wrote:

These guys know of what they speak. Take it off.

Title: Re: removing existing muffler clamp bolt-NEED help
Post by MrBrownTX on 08/06/11 at 07:44:49

Very good and valid points, gents. I will follow your advise.

Title: Re: removing existing muffler clamp bolt-NEED help
Post by MrBrownTX on 08/06/11 at 12:02:09

Well that was super easy that way. Thanks, I took the whole thing off and then easily loosended the clamp and slid it right off, with a little wd40 help.

http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/226129_2301835587473_1296698151_2850334_1276196_n.jpg
I did not notice a gasket at the header that was loose or fell out. I assume its just stuck to the motor still. Will that be ok as long as it is in place? Or do I need to remove it and replace it?

Also I noticed when I bolted the header back up that it was further away from the heat shield than before and pointed in toward the bike more. So I loosened it back up and lined it up how it was then tightened it back down. Was that the right thing to do?

I am ordering a drag pipe baffle with fiberglass wrap and getting an 18" piece of 1.75" tail pipe from autozone to put on there now!!! I also am going to rejet the carb too (because I know that advice was coming).

I am so excited to have turned my own wrench on the bike. I don't usually do this and I am happy that I did. It was easy and I feel slightly accomplished(lol).

Do I dare attempt the rejet the carb on my own or will I take it to my local chopper shop for that?

Title: Re: removing existing muffler clamp bolt-NEED help
Post by MrBrownTX on 08/06/11 at 12:04:47

I wouldn't normaly buy a raptor petcock ;)

Title: Re: removing existing muffler clamp bolt-NEED help
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/06/11 at 12:35:43

At this time, I Must Add,, If you start working another muffler on there & realize it just Will NOT go as far as it Must go in order to get the rear bolts in, then if you do what I did, & grind a short piece off the end of the header, you gotta make sure you move the battery vent tube,, I shot sparks by mine & the Bat Tree DEE flippin Sploded,, & I spent a few, washing & cleaning the bike with baking soda & water to get th battery acid out of everything..

Costly error,, avoid it..

Title: Re: removing existing muffler clamp bolt-NEED help
Post by MrBrownTX on 08/06/11 at 13:39:26

Wow good story to share. I dont want to go cutting off anything I might need.

I started it up with just the header it it was a beautiful sound aside from it running so rough and sputtering away till it died. It reminded me of my dad's Harley, just a little bit.

Title: Re: removing existing muffler clamp bolt-NEED help
Post by arteacher on 08/06/11 at 16:04:52

It will probably be easier to tighten the header bolts last. That way there is no strain on any of the other parts.

Title: Re: removing existing muffler clamp bolt-NEED help
Post by ralfyguy on 08/07/11 at 10:13:39

4A414148444B4A5051250 wrote:

It will probably be easier to tighten the header bolts last. That way there is no strain on any of the other parts.

Actually I would do the exact opposite. if I may say so with all due respect. The header bolts in the head are actually the most fragile component. Not the bolts itself, but the threads in the aluminum head can get stripped easily. I always have all the bolts on the exhaust loose and then pre-align everything, then hand tighten the bolts and make the final alignment. Then I tighten the header bolts and then the rest. This way you take the tension out of the system and minimize the strain on the header bolts.