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Title: Getting ready to go darkside Post by Toymaker on 04/30/10 at 18:36:04 I have sourced out a tire and have purchased my dynabeads...just have to get them now..... OF......where are you when I need you!!!!! :) |
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Title: Re: Getting ready to go darkside Post by RidgeRunner13 on 04/30/10 at 20:41:28 What size & where did you find it? I've been looking & can't find a source for the ones that have been mentioned on here. :-/ |
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Title: Re: Getting ready to go darkside Post by Toymaker on 05/01/10 at 04:22:51 Tire Rack has the tires |
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Title: Re: Getting ready to go darkside Post by Oldfeller on 05/01/10 at 09:24:44 You done worn out ANOTHER bike tire? Wow ..... So what is it that you need help with? Moral support and bring my big spoon set with me? You want me to come up a day early and help wrassle that big arsed tire with you? That would give us part of a spare day on Tuesday for Awshit!! to happen and to get past it. Or at least get past the bleeding part before Lancer shows up to tease us. Hurry up = mess up (we done proved that previously, right?) |
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Title: Re: Getting ready to go darkside Post by verslagen1 on 05/01/10 at 09:32:04 You sure you can't put that off 'til next year so I can watch? [smiley=2vrolijk_08.gif] |
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Title: Re: Getting ready to go darkside Post by Oldfeller on 05/01/10 at 11:38:00 Hey 'Slagen, next year you can come up a week early and help Lancer put Rex back together again, then you can come up and help Toymaker rotate his tires. (got to rotate those durn car tires regularly to get the maximum promised mileage, it's recommended by all the big car tire manufacturers anyway) ... but me, I am jest too durn lazy to do it so I jest let the engine and the drive belt do it for me ... ;D |
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Title: Re: Getting ready to go darkside Post by verslagen1 on 05/01/10 at 11:42:28 0221292B282121283F4D0 wrote:
Isn't rotating them what causes the lost mileage? ;D |
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Title: Re: Getting ready to go darkside Post by Oldfeller on 05/01/10 at 11:53:42 Naw, rotate them too much and you lose some de rubbers due to interstatial bond separations due to the clitoris effect. You know, rub it too hard and woopsy, de friction she builds up de heat and she goes all squalling apeshit on you and de stiction she jest rip off de rubber .... sssssswock ouchie !!! ::) oops honey, de rubber she come off again .... anyhow, that's Lancer's story and he's a stickin' to it by golly |
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Title: Re: Getting ready to go darkside Post by Toymaker on 05/02/10 at 03:49:10 nebber mind.... I just thot I'd rattle a cage or two...Verslagen1, next change...we'll wait for you. ;) |
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Title: Re: Getting ready to go darkside Post by Oldfeller on 05/02/10 at 04:25:27 You go darkside this time around and he'll be old and gray before you change that rear tire again .... ooops ....... too late |
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Title: Re: Getting ready to go darkside Post by Toymaker on 05/02/10 at 06:06:41 I'm actually looking into sealing the rim and not only going darkside, but tubeless. So there is more going on for me. |
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Title: Re: Getting ready to go darkside Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/02/10 at 06:38:21 Why Dyna Beads & not just a dynamic balance ? |
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Title: Re: Getting ready to go darkside Post by Oldfeller on 05/02/10 at 07:38:20 How do Dyna beads work if you have a bulge in a tire making it heavy at the bulge? I know how them simple old lead weights work .... Also, if you seal the spoked rim then you in essence glue the spoke nuts in place. Should you ever need to tune the spokes to true the wheel it can get tough to do --- also you will break the seal job fer shure. True the wheel before gluing the spokes .... |
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Title: Re: Getting ready to go darkside Post by Toymaker on 05/02/10 at 09:52:40 The sealing process is as follows. Sand the "gully" where the spokes are with big grit sandpaper so that the sealer will stick. Put one of these for the valve stem http://www.summitracing.com/parts/SUM-G1954 Then those dots that are used as price stickers cover the spokes...then aluminum tape (adhesive backed) over the dots. Then use a silicon sealer and cover the aluminum tape with atleast a 1/8" layer of sealer. Roll the wheel on a pipe or axle to find the heavy spot (most likely where the stem is) and apply more sealer to balance out the wheel. Let cure for several days then you are good to go. This is NOT my idea, I have scrounged this from the vulcan site. |
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Title: Re: Getting ready to go darkside Post by Oldfeller on 05/02/10 at 10:20:59 Sounds better than some systems I have read about -- spokes should still be able to turn without breaking the seal. ========================= OK, tube is maybe better. Follow me on this ..... You have to fight to pop the bead on the tire. 90 psi is not unusual. With no tube, how are you going to get there? If the catywampus bead won't seal, you got no pressure build up at all. Without pressure you got no way to make the bead seal, much less pop. Without a tube you could maybe possibly get caught twixt the rock and the hard spot and jest sit there hissing .... Car tires get past this with a massive air blast shot at the bead/rim junction by a ring of large nozzles and a big air bottle (trick is built into the tire machine) You could use Justin's trick of starting fluid and the thrown match .... :P yikes |
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Title: Re: Getting ready to go darkside Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/02/10 at 11:56:22 NowNow NOW! I never did that. I saw some guys seat a Big Tire on an offroad truck that way, on TeeVee. I dont think Id try that. |
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Title: Re: Getting ready to go darkside Post by verslagen1 on 05/02/10 at 12:06:51 getting the bead to seat is a simple matter. loop a rope around the center of the tire tighten it tourniquet style until the bead is forced against the rim feed air in and loosen when it catches |
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Title: Re: Getting ready to go darkside Post by Toymaker on 05/02/10 at 12:19:22 Another thing I have heard is polish the flat spot and the seating rim to make it slippery smooth...then use vegetable oil or KY to help it slide into place. |
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Title: Re: Getting ready to go darkside Post by Oldfeller on 05/02/10 at 12:45:39 :-/ Put a tourniquet around its neck and choke it hard right before you shoot it to it (after polishing its flat spot and greasing your access pathway with KY jelly) ..... .... hmmmm ....... is that banjo music I hear a' comming from the holler? Justin says he used a lit cigarette, not a thrown match. Jest bend over real close and puff on it hard to make it glow good. You darksider guys sure are dangerous !! |
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Title: Re: Getting ready to go darkside Post by verslagen1 on 05/02/10 at 12:49:29 172B26172C3A2E22282631430 wrote:
use a water soluble lube so the tire absorbs it and it goes away. least that's what I've been told. |
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Title: Re: Getting ready to go darkside Post by bill67 on 05/02/10 at 13:19:21 Liquid dish soap works good. |
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Title: Re: Getting ready to go darkside Post by Oldfeller on 05/03/10 at 04:23:18 And it strikes me that I rode my year plus old darksider tire to the first Dragon run and I'll be taking the same half worn out tire back again this year to the Third Annual Dragon run .... .... mebbie I should buy it a tee shirt? After all, it is a original member of the original run and all and it is the only returning rear tire of the original equipment crew. |
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Title: Re: Getting ready to go darkside Post by bill67 on 05/03/10 at 04:33:32 One advantage to those flat tires you don't need a kick stand,Saves weight makes bike faster. |
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Title: Re: Getting ready to go darkside Post by cornfuzed on 05/03/10 at 09:26:24 sooo many questions on the car tire tingy! ... OF you noticed any flaws runnin to the darkside? I know that luke skywalker lost a hand before he was tempted to turn to the DS. Any who can you still peg scrape? and HOW DO YOU BALANCE and what was the tire size im trying to go to the DS but neeeed input... from people WWAAYY smarter'en me... how is it in rain ? as Im also tempted on the royal star to do the same... Leemeee see uhhh Bridgstone Excedra G702 - $103... Kumho 165/xx /15 - $40 ... sheesh soo much to learn... not enough brain cells ... stupid youth... |
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Title: Re: Getting ready to go darkside Post by Oldfeller on 05/03/10 at 13:26:10 I wrote down all impressions as they happened. Each little item. http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1179508142 Now, all is normal to me. Doesn't scrape the fender any more since I recognized one of my rear shocks had moved down to the lowest preload position on its own. (run your preload at max) Warning -- be sure to pick a real pretty tire because it is gonna be with you so long you'll get sick of looking at it. 5 years is a long time to look at the same old tire .... Lastly, FAIR WARNING !! You'll stand a good chance to hurty yourself with them nasty tire irons or with that evil air chuck. You will also become a DARKSIDER which is a synonym for "evil person" in some places. Expect a looooong looooong time to have to count each positive and minus. |
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