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Title: Noisey camchain Post by Baldeagle on 04/27/10 at 18:32:41 The past week have been hearing a noise from right side of the head. Have concluded it is the camchain or camchain tensioner. Bike has 10k miles, local driving with no interstate. Bike starts OK but does run ragged at times. Will not ride until fixed, but would like some thoughts on what pit falls I might run into doing a fix replacing the cam tensioner. This will be a first wrenching for me. I have the Clymer AND factory manual, plus reading the tech posting, so hopefully will be able to replace using only common cuss words.......Thanks |
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Title: Re: Noisey camchain Post by verslagen1 on 04/27/10 at 18:40:53 idk, common cussin' only required, but I've done so many times the wrenches know when to jump out of the box. If'n you run up sometin' you don't understand give us a holler. |
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Title: Re: Noisey camchain Post by Baldeagle on 04/27/10 at 18:46:45 I will do that.........Maybe I should ship the bike to you. Thanks |
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Title: Re: Noisey camchain Post by verslagen1 on 04/27/10 at 18:55:38 free installs of verslavies, bring gasket and oil. beer and a swimming suit. pretty girls if you got 'em. no suits required for them. 8-) |
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Title: Re: Noisey camchain Post by buttgoat1 on 04/27/10 at 19:54:48 best thing is, you can ride it back once its fixed |
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Title: Re: Noisey camchain Post by BurnPgh on 04/27/10 at 20:51:43 I wouldnt hedge my bets on making it from MS to CA though. I replaced my chain with no issues. I opted to remove the engine from the frame and replace the guides aswell but that isnt required. Biggest thing is to make sure your at TDCC when you start. Diassemble, replace, reassemble. When you reassemble make sure the piston is still at TDC and the cam timing marks are aligned with the head with the lobes pointed downward. Other than that move slowly and surely, check your manuals frequently while proceeding (read the whole procedure several times through before starting) and if you have questions, just ask. |
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Title: Re: Noisey camchain Post by Demin on 04/28/10 at 07:04:54 By me a plane ticket.I'll come down and install it. |
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Title: Re: Noisey camchain Post by Baldeagle on 04/28/10 at 16:04:27 When I did my first oil change I thought I became a 'serious thimper'. LOL :) Verslavies idea with the no swimsuits was the best....forget about the tensioner. Now riding from MS to CA sounds great but after getting my 72 year old butt there I would be in ICU.:) I ride with some other 'old geezers' and have the smallest ride in the bunch. after we put our brains in tandem this tensioner job should move right along. Thanks for your advise, comments and support. Will probably be getting in touch with Verslagen1 about his package deal. |
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Title: Re: Noisey camchain Post by thumperclone on 04/28/10 at 17:07:06 after 10 k??usually start look at 13> 15 k>>> been keepin up with the valve adjustments? pushin 14k on my 06 no noise cept the valves and the pipe... |
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Title: Re: Noisey camchain Post by Baldeagle on 04/28/10 at 17:47:37 No, but a friend of mine did suggest that.....so will do that first. Bought the bike new in 05 and it probably needs a good going over. I hope to post some pixs. |
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Title: Re: Noisey camchain Post by BurnPgh on 04/28/10 at 23:03:51 My tensioner was at 18mm at about 10k mi but it seems fairly uncommon. If I were you I'd adjust the valves (or have someone do it for you) and pop the right crankcase cover off and see whats what with the chain/tensioner for sure. Best case is you adjust your valves and all is well. Worst is you spend $100 for a verslavy, do some minor wrenching, and rest assured you're bike isnt going to die on you. |
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Title: Re: Noisey camchain Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/29/10 at 06:57:11 Id do the valves & see if that solved the prob. Also, a Listening device, crammed against the bone in front of your ear & traced around the cam chain path wouldnt be a bad idea, before & after the valve adjust. |
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Title: Re: Noisey camchain Post by Baldeagle on 05/06/10 at 05:52:38 Had a friend who built his own engines for his drag boats take care of the valves(?) and educate me on those. Ordered new tensioner whether needed or not and now ready to put this thing back together. If a part is left out I will just jump in the river. Please pass some assembly ideas on to me, locktie etc., and it will be appreciated. Can the cam chain be replaced without pulling the engine? Thanks for you help!!! |
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Title: Re: Noisey camchain Post by verslagen1 on 05/06/10 at 07:13:14 the chain can be replaced with engine in, but I'd recommend pulling it. especially for a 1st timer. It's a little difficult getting the head cover back on remember the center bolt and w/o wiping all the rtv on the chain. It seems like a lot more effort but not really. pull all the bolts to get the engine loose. Throw a blanket down on the lawn, tip the bike over on it. Wiggle the engine free. Then ask your wife to pick it up and put it on the bench. ;D |
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Title: Re: Noisey camchain Post by buttgoat1 on 05/06/10 at 09:26:41 4B584F4E515C5A58530C3D0 wrote:
if she can do that, I bet you say "please and thank you" A good woman is hard to find..... |
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Title: Re: Noisey camchain Post by matt on 05/06/10 at 10:32:39 how much does engine wiegh? |
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Title: Re: Noisey camchain Post by Baldeagle on 05/06/10 at 11:09:39 The crush casket between the header pipe and muffler has a small taper on one side. Does this taper go to the muffler or header pipe side? If it comes to replacing the cam chain, one of you will be receiving a large heavy box. :) :) |
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Title: Re: Noisey camchain Post by verslagen1 on 05/06/10 at 11:19:00 3C3025253960606966510 wrote:
less carb and starter... about 100# tell 'er to 'remember to use your legs'... dear. |
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Title: Re: Noisey camchain Post by matt on 05/07/10 at 10:26:18 594A5D5C434E484A411E2F0 wrote:
less carb and starter... about 100# tell 'er to 'remember to use your legs'... dear.[/quote] HAHAHA i will try to get my neighbor to help me, shes got some long ones ;D ;D ;D i always thought it was way more, thx! |
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Title: Re: Noisey camchain Post by babyhog on 05/07/10 at 10:31:40 544750514E4345474C13220 wrote:
less carb and starter... about 100# tell 'er to 'remember to use your legs'... dear.[/quote] Ah hell, I can pick that up with one hand!!... (as long as its hubby's hand!) ;D |
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Title: Re: Noisey camchain Post by bill67 on 05/07/10 at 11:12:39 Any wimp can pick up a S40 engine. |
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Title: Re: Noisey camchain Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/07/10 at 12:35:11 The hassle of working in the small area up on top was less ( IMO) than pulling the engine. I did block it kinda level & sucked the oil outta the cam splash area & cleaned the head up good w/o that stuff up there to drag onto my work. Then put the Goo down & thats a bit of a trick, getting it thin & even. I carefull put some new oil back in, not to fill it, just Sometyhing so it wasnt running dry too long. I guess some Build Grease on the cam lobes would have done it better.. Maybe a first timer would come out ahead to pull it, IDK,, its a close call.. |
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Title: Re: Noisey camchain Post by Baldeagle on 05/12/10 at 20:34:31 Finished tentioner replacement job. Tried adjusting the clutch according to Clymer but on release the clutch lever is almost all the way out before engaging the gears. I;m sure there is a trick to correct this.....I just don't know what it is. After messing with the valves and the other wrenching I was truly surprised she fired right up. Thanks |
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Title: Re: Noisey camchain Post by verslagen1 on 05/12/10 at 21:02:51 very common problem, in fact I think we talked someone thru it yesterday. Most likely one of the plates is jammed, take apart shift the plates around, make sure the wave washer is seated right, check the oil pump gear put back together. |
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