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Message started by Joe C on 04/20/10 at 05:01:42

Title: Stock handlebar size and mini apes
Post by Joe C on 04/20/10 at 05:01:42

Are they 7/8 or 1 inch?  What size apes and I put on the bike without changing the cables or electrical.  My bike has the buckhorn style bars.

Title: Re: Stock handlebar size and mini apes
Post by mpescatori on 04/20/10 at 05:11:59

I have OEM drag bars as per the Mk I (4-speed) model, and bars are 1".
:-/
Trouble with 1" bars, they provide nice grip BUT are a pain to fnid aftermarket stuff that isn't intended for HD... $$$
>:(

Title: Re: Stock handlebar size and mini apes
Post by einheit13 on 04/20/10 at 05:58:08

most imprt cruisers carry 1" bars, alomng with HD. You are limited on height of the bars by the cables. All you can really do is get the shortest risers you can and then the bar with the largest rise that will work tih the stock cables.
Cables aren't that hard to change or fix. If you call Barnett, they will make a cables however long you want. Most good indie shops will make throttle cables, and a hydralic shop can make yu a longer brake hose.  Extending the electrical is very easy too.

Title: Re: Stock handlebar size and mini apes
Post by Yonuh Adisi on 04/20/10 at 07:12:41

10 inch mini apes will work just fine, all you have to do is re-route the cables.

Title: Re: Stock handlebar size and mini apes
Post by Joe C on 04/20/10 at 08:37:06

Do you have pics of your bike with the 10 inch apes?

Title: Re: Stock handlebar size and mini apes
Post by einheit13 on 04/20/10 at 09:12:07


083E3F24391035382238510 wrote:
10 inch mini apes will work just fine, all you have to do is re-route the cables.


Yeah, I wanna see that since the risers are already like 5" tall and even installing 30" drag bars, you have to leave 1 1/2" of the bar end exposed since the wires and brake line won't stretch that far.....this is on an 08 S40.

Title: Re: Stock handlebar size and mini apes
Post by Yonuh Adisi on 04/20/10 at 09:31:09


565A5D5B565A470200330 wrote:
[quote author=083E3F24391035382238510 link=1271764903/0#3 date=1271772761]10 inch mini apes will work just fine, all you have to do is re-route the cables.


Yeah, I wanna see that since the risers are already like 5" tall and even installing 30" drag bars, you have to leave 1 1/2" of the bar end exposed since the wires and brake line won't stretch that far.....this is on an 08 S40.
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You didn't say it was an 08 S40 but the original poster mentioned he had buck horns which is indicative of the earlier models that do not have such tall risers.

This is my bike with 10 in mini apes before I installed the Road King tank and Girder front end. It is a 2000 Savage.

http://c1.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/38/l_678cb7c92d3e15bc211f4d967c8ba2e0.jpg

http://c1.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/91/l_5016285e10eca0704bd887956987f6e8.jpg

http://c1.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/65/l_f3103cab059a045356b4f6939b01f2e8.jpg


Title: Re: Stock handlebar size and mini apes
Post by MrBrownTX on 06/20/11 at 11:48:21

I like it!  I just got a Savage yesterday and this is something I had in mind to do.

Title: Re: Stock handlebar size and mini apes
Post by Paladin. on 06/21/11 at 10:23:15


4E585E49545253055752583D0 wrote:
Do you have pics of your bike with the 10 inch apes?

http://www.savageriders.com/paladin/images/10inch-Apes1.jpghttp://www.savageriders.com/paladin/images/10inch-Apes2.jpg
http://www.jirehcycles.com/ 10" Apes, leather grips, mirrors: pn's 50-221, 35-55, 46-32.  My apes were under $30, cost now "call".  The wires fit my bars, the brake hose was short.  Needed a stainless steel braided brake hose anyhow.  Stainless steel wrap-ties keep the bars neat.  

The bars were 32.77" wide.  Now just 30" wide.  

Title: Re: Stock handlebar size and mini apes
Post by Smokestack on 06/23/11 at 14:13:50

Biltwell makes some 8" rise bars if the 10" leave ya short a cable hose.

http://www.biltwellinc.com/index.php?l=product_detail&p=52

Their bars are sweet.  You can get 'em in 1", and without the HD dimples.  The thick wall and anvil logo capping the left end mean that you can't run the OEM caps, though.

That said, I do love my Frisco's.....

http://i1086.photobucket.com/albums/j452/Smokestack75/SAM_0193.jpg

http://i1086.photobucket.com/albums/j452/Smokestack75/SAM_0192.jpg

Title: Re: Stock handlebar size and mini apes
Post by Morgii on 06/23/11 at 16:03:13

Are they 1" all the way? or 1" where the risers clamp and 7/8" controls?

Also, do you think putting 5" risers w/ the stock buckhorn handlebars would look stupid? I'm not sure if they would or not...

Title: Re: Stock handlebar size and mini apes
Post by WD on 06/23/11 at 18:18:08

Stock cables, different brake hose. 13" rise bars.
http://ravenscroftart.net/watchtower/Pre-wreck2.jpg

Title: Re: Stock handlebar size and mini apes
Post by drums1 on 06/23/11 at 19:04:05

Buckhorns with 3" risers. Cables stretched to max. '87 Savage.

http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/z473/savagepat1/bike5.jpg

http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/z473/savagepat1/bike3.jpg

http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/z473/savagepat1/bike1.jpg

http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/z473/savagepat1/bike2.jpg


Title: Re: Stock handlebar size and mini apes
Post by MrBrownTX on 06/24/11 at 10:38:20

Those Friscos are PERFECT, I'd love them in black!!!

Title: Re: Stock handlebar size and mini apes
Post by Smokestack on 06/24/11 at 10:54:08


47584858455D445E522A0 wrote:
Those Friscos are PERFECT, I'd love them in black!!!


They make 'em in chrome or black.  Same price, too!  They make a lot of sweet styles, man.  If I wasn't so in love with the Frisco's, I'd probably be running the Window Bars.  Check the link.

http://www.biltwellinc.com/bars.php  

Hey drums1, did you spin up those risers yourself?  VERY cool, I gotta say!

Title: Re: Stock handlebar size and mini apes
Post by MrBrownTX on 08/01/11 at 09:10:35


5C6260646A7C7B6E6C640F0 wrote:
[quote author=47584858455D445E522A0 link=1271764903/0#13 date=1308937100]Those Friscos are PERFECT, I'd love them in black!!!


They make 'em in chrome or black.  Same price, too!  They make a lot of sweet styles, man.  If I wasn't so in love with the Frisco's, I'd probably be running the Window Bars.  Check the link.

http://www.biltwellinc.com/bars.php  

Hey drums1, did you spin up those risers yourself?  VERY cool, I gotta say!
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Smoke Stack how is the reach to those?  7" isn't too terribly tall are your arms still pointing down or more level?

I am thinking about going for these friscos but I have stock drag bars now so I have the tall risers (6"?).  I was thinking about just putting the friscos on those risers.  I don't expect it will be too tall, should be 13" or so of rise.

Title: Re: Stock handlebar size and mini apes
Post by jasonwm on 08/01/11 at 12:42:45

so, did the older savages have 7/8 bars and the s40's have 1" bars?  My ignorance might have gotten one over on me.  I assumed ( i know i know) that my bars were 7/8 on my bike.  an 86.  

Title: Re: Stock handlebar size and mini apes
Post by verslagen1 on 08/01/11 at 12:50:06


222D2D382D3A707179787A480 wrote:
so, did the older savages have 7/8 bars and the s40's have 1" bars?  My ignorance might have gotten one over on me.  I assumed ( i know i know) that my bars were 7/8 on my bike.  an 86.  


If you can't believe what is told you, go out and measure the dam things.

Title: Re: Stock handlebar size and mini apes
Post by drums1 on 08/01/11 at 13:02:37

Mine is an '87.        1" bars.

No I didn't machine the risers, I bought some BMX bike footpegs, hacksawed and ground them to 3", with new, longer mount bolts.
With the 3" risers and the 6" rise on the buckhorns, makes about 9" total rise. Cables are all maxed out, but I didn't reroute them at all. If I did, 10" rise would not be a problem with all OE cables. If you want 13" rise, you might be replacing at least some of the cables +/or the brake line.

Title: Re: Stock handlebar size and mini apes
Post by Smokestack on 08/01/11 at 18:09:28


0E1101110C140D171B630 wrote:
Smoke Stack how is the reach to those?  7" isn't too terribly tall are your arms still pointing down or more level?

I am thinking about going for these friscos but I have stock drag bars now so I have the tall risers (6"?).  I was thinking about just putting the friscos on those risers.  I don't expect it will be too tall, should be 13" or so of rise.


I dropped my seat quite a bit when I put on the solo, so I don't know how they'd feel on a stocker....

As for the risers, I'd say that you'd definitely need to replace some cables.  Mine actually gave me a bit of play from the stock Buckhorns, but risers that big'll be a problem.

I'm about 5'11", maybe 175, and my arms sit maybe a tiny bit below shoulder height when I ride.

Title: Re: Stock handlebar size and mini apes
Post by MrBrownTX on 08/01/11 at 18:42:56

Yeah, definitely planning on replacing cables. Thanks!

Title: Re: Stock handlebar size and mini apes
Post by Dono on 07/31/13 at 10:02:37

Smokestack, I'm really diggin' your setup!

I just purchased an s40 (2007) and am looking to set my handlebars similar to how you have yours configured. Frisco is the style, or the manufacturer? Also, the seat...what is the make and how did you mount?

General question: would anyone be so kind as to direct me to a good discussion on the site for replacing the brake line with a stainless line? I'm assuming it's going to be much more complicated than just taking it off and replacing with a new one. I've never had to deal with brakes and don't want to blindly start taking things apart and mess something up.

Title: Re: Stock handlebar size and mini apes
Post by EJID on 07/31/13 at 10:33:56


5D71782F536B76791E0 wrote:
Smokestack, I'm really diggin' your setup!

I just purchased an s40 (2007) and am looking to set my handlebars similar to how you have yours configured. Frisco is the style, or the manufacturer? Also, the seat...what is the make and how did you mount?

General question: would anyone be so kind as to direct me to a good discussion on the site for replacing the brake line with a stainless line? I'm assuming it's going to be much more complicated than just taking it off and replacing with a new one. I've never had to deal with brakes and don't want to blindly start taking things apart and mess something up.


Dono...welcome  :)

Bringing an old dead post back to the forefront is always interesting.

The Frisco bars that Smokestack put on his bike were called Frisco, but manufactured by Biltwell. http://www.biltwellinc.com/index.php?l=product_detail&p=44 They come in either black or chrome and dimpled or un-dimpled. Once you decide chrome/black, you will want to order the 1" bars that are un-dimpled. (dimpled bars will work, but might cause some headaches with the controls)

Here is the tech info on bleeding your brake line when you replace it. (From our handy TECH Section on this site 8-)) http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1361025600/0#0

When I replaced mine, these are the notes that I had and one of the threads that I posted some information about my experience.
http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1365016335/4#4


1C13101D590 wrote:
[quote author=383722333924323F33560 link=1365016335/0#3 date=1365025341]EJID,
what fittings did you use?


Here is the note from my original order...

"Hose 1 Fittings #1 & #4 (10mm Straight & 10mm 45 Degree) Length 42" (end to end including fittings) Angle: Type C (90 Degree)"

I used this cable to extend my brake line for putting on mini-apes (from a FXDWG) and if I did it again, I would add another 1" in length (almost too short). It's been a while now, and I'm not sure if the Angle Type C is the correct one to use, seems like I had a little trouble with the angle, but I would have to look it over again to decide. I was happy with my purchase though and would use them again if I need another line.  :) Good luck[/quote]

Title: Re: Stock handlebar size and mini apes
Post by Dono on 07/31/13 at 12:42:39

Thanks, EJID! I'm still familiarizing myself with the site. Next time I'll take a gander at the TECH section first. I gotta say, this site has been the best resource for ideas and solutions. In fact, stumbling across this site is what inspired me to purchase my S40.

Just out of curiosity, how long of a process was it for you to bleed the system and then add new components/fluid? Wondering if this should be a weekend or week-night job. Thanks again for your help.

Title: Re: Stock handlebar size and mini apes
Post by EJID on 07/31/13 at 13:15:24

Replacing the bars with taller bars that require replacements of brake lines, throttle cables, or extending/re-routing wiring I would plan on a weekend project.

Just swapping the brake line and bleeding it was a week night process for me. If you still have stock pads on the front, swapping them at this time is ideal and others on this site say that the Kevlar pads are virtually squeak free. I replaced mine with basic EBC pads and haven't had an issue (knock on wood)  :P

I actually took 1 night to do the wiring, 1 night to do the brake line, and swapping the throttle cable was simple, but I had the tank off to work around things more easily.

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