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/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl General Category >> Rubber Side Down! >> belt to chain conversion for a savage 4 speed /cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1270768868 Message started by jonnychop on 04/08/10 at 16:21:08 |
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Title: belt to chain conversion for a savage 4 speed Post by jonnychop on 04/08/10 at 16:21:08 got a question for you guys I recently busted my belt and i was reading the technical section for this mod and was pretty impressed by the results More speed, better MPG depending on gear ratio, unfortunately there was no info on this mod for an older savage 4 speed only 5 speeds any opinions has anybody done a chain conversion for a 4 speed theres a bunch of gear ratios and percentage info i really didn't understand very well, so if anybody could shed some light on this i would really appreciate it. thanks guys youve always helped me out with my love affair with the savage. |
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Title: Re: belt to chain conversion for a savage 4 speed Post by Serowbot on 04/08/10 at 17:28:51 not 100% sure,... but pretty sure that the pulleys are the same.... and the 4 speed has a slightly higher top gear 60mph rpm... So, if you're not to heavy,.. to handle a higher 1st,.. the taller 4th gear might be very nice... |
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Title: Re: belt to chain conversion for a savage 4 speed Post by jonnychop on 04/08/10 at 17:36:12 tomorrow i will start the mod i will keep you posted with pics and comments thanks! |
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Title: Re: belt to chain conversion for a savage 4 speed Post by rigidchop on 04/08/10 at 17:36:37 i did it to mine, and love it. i dont remember what the sprocket count was, but it cruises along nicely. i actually finally took it out on the interstate a couple of weeks ago and was passing cars. i think the sweet spot for mine is around 60 to 65mph now. |
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Title: Re: belt to chain conversion for a savage 4 speed Post by Serowbot on 04/08/10 at 17:41:40 Quote:
Not sure if that's clear..... I'm thinking it's something like... with a 5speed bike.... 3850 rpm at 60 mph with the 4 speed bike... 3950 rpm at 60mph... hope that helps... (is that right Rigid?)... |
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Title: Re: belt to chain conversion for a savage 4 speed Post by rigidchop on 04/08/10 at 18:02:16 i thought it was the opposite. |
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Title: Re: belt to chain conversion for a savage 4 speed Post by Serowbot on 04/08/10 at 18:58:45 312A242A27202B2C33430 wrote:
Well crap,... we just nullified each other... I give you the benefit of the doubt,... 'cause I'm just going by what I remember another member saying.... Sorry Jonny.... |
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Title: Re: belt to chain conversion for a savage 4 speed Post by rigidchop on 04/08/10 at 19:11:17 i think it was rockin john who led me to believe this, as he has owned both 4 and 5speeds. |
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Title: Re: belt to chain conversion for a savage 4 speed Post by John_D FSO on 04/09/10 at 02:55:32 4C5A4D50485D504B3F0 wrote:
Was that with both of them in 4th gear; or the 5 speed in 5th, and the 4 speed in 4th, in other words, both in "high" gear? That might explain the difference in agreement? :-/ |
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Title: Re: belt to chain conversion for a savage 4 speed Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/09/10 at 10:24:18 IIRC, a 4 speed in high gear @ 60 MPH is turning slightly fewer RPM than a 5 Speed in high gear @ 60. Remember, they changed the jetting somewhere "back there", IDK if it was when they went to the 5 spdeed, but that would at least offer some reason for the gearing change. |
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Title: Re: belt to chain conversion for a savage 4 speed Post by klx650sm2002 on 04/09/10 at 10:39:59 KLX in top gear does 63mph @ peak torque on std gearing (15/43), I went to 16/42 and she now does 69@peak torque, very nice. So I am going to try 16/39 which will give 74mph@peak torque and 104mph@peak power. The good thing with chain drive is the variety of sprockets available to do with whatever you want. Clive W :) |
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Title: Re: belt to chain conversion for a savage 4 speed Post by jonnychop on 04/09/10 at 17:04:19 Thanks to you all for your comments and i will be going the 17/43 sprocket combo and try it out for about a couple of weeks and then try another combination depending on how i feel the bike i will begin this mod tomorrow and ill include pics so you can see how it goes. again thanks to the thumper bretheren you guys have always helped out a lot. JC. |
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Title: Re: belt to chain conversion for a savage 4 speed Post by LANCER on 04/10/10 at 01:50:19 speaking of chain mod's, I got a great deal on a chain a few days ago on ebay dk-trader store (Dennis Kirk catalog clearance store): It will be used on Savage #2... "James", REX's personal vallet ;D I got the chain for $5.50 :D EK 530 SR Sport Series Chain Chain Size: 530 Type: Non-Sealed # Of Links: 108 EK 530 SR Sport Series Chain Chain Size: 530 Type: Non-Sealed # Of Links: 108 Our best-selling chain line, offering outstanding performance and value All EK chains feature solid roller construction with shot-peened and pre-stretched components for better performance and fewer adjustments All non-standard EK chains have quad-staked riveting and solid bushings Sport Series is recommended for unmodified motorcycles used on the street Sealing Ring - None Maximum Engine Size - 400cc Wear Life Index - 200 (Wear life index should be used as a comparison for probable wear life, under identical circumstances) Tensile Strength - 7,700 lbs Heavy-duty street chain ** Chain Is Dirty And Missing The Master Link ** Retail Price: $47.99 11195108SD R1-B2 Tote S ~art~ M07-686 |
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Title: Re: belt to chain conversion for a savage 4 speed Post by rich015 on 05/13/10 at 07:42:36 I have a 87 4 speed. Haven't even riden it yet. Just putting it back together after buying it in pieces. I definately want to go with a chain. Just wondering how the 17/43 is working out for ya. Also... what bike do I use to order the sprockets? Thanks |
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Title: Re: belt to chain conversion for a savage 4 speed Post by BurnPgh on 05/13/10 at 11:25:44 I did 16/41 which is about 17/43. It was okay. Much more comfortable at highway speeds but Ive got a ton of hills in my area (Penn Hills PA) and I did miss the bit of low end grunt that I traded. I was however, able get very very close to or a bit past 100mph on the highway when the speedo reading was adjusted for the change. Took a while to get there though. If you dont live in a very hilly area 17/43 would be a good choice. If you've got hills Id go 17/45-47. and I would NOT use a 16 front sprocket. 16/41 the chain was very very close to the swingarm and on large bumps would scrape. Required very close attention to chain tension. 16/43 didnt scrape but was still close. I just think 17 is the better choice. The bike to look for as far as the sprockets goes is suzuki gs550 (with cast wheels, not spoked) '83-'86. |
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