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Message started by Southpaw on 03/17/10 at 17:36:15

Title: Broke Down And Bought A New Petcock
Post by Southpaw on 03/17/10 at 17:36:15

After having problems again this spring with sputtering at highway speeds after warm up I just broke down and bought a new petcock. Flushed the tank twice before installing the new one (just like I did last year) and still got pieces of what looks like gasket material out from when the morons tried to steal the bike last year. Took her out for a shakedown cruise and it was like riding a brand new bike!!! That machine absolutely SINGS at 65 - 70 MHP!  :)

Title: Re: Broke Down And Bought A New Petcock
Post by Rocco on 03/17/10 at 20:56:00

good for u man!

did u go with the raptor? where did u get it and how was the install? i need to do the same myself, been running in prime the last couple of months lol

Title: Re: Broke Down And Bought A New Petcock
Post by Southpaw on 03/17/10 at 22:32:13

Replaced with stock unit from stealership. almost $80. Two bolts and two hoses. It took more time to drain the tank than do the repair. The bike's only got 7K+ miles on it, but last fall someone tried to break out the ignition lock and steal it while I was at work. The insurance paid to have all the locks rekeyed and I think my tank got contaminated either during the attempt or when the mechanic was fixing things. Last fall I swapped out my hoses, took the original petcock to the parts cleaner and cleaned the screens, checked the vacuum diaphragm... basically everything I could think of with only moderate results. It just never got the zip back that I was accustomed to. This year when I took it out to ride in Feb. it would run OK at around 30MPH but as soon as I got over 35-40 it acted like it was running out of gas. Switch to prime and it ran OK but still not spectacular. Installed the new petcock and the first time I got on the throttle it pulled me back in the seat. NOW we're talking! That's the performance I remembered!

Title: Re: Broke Down And Bought A New Petcock
Post by verslagen1 on 03/17/10 at 22:45:17

A day late and a dollar short, but just to make you feel bad...

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Title: Re: Broke Down And Bought A New Petcock
Post by jabman on 03/18/10 at 01:33:40

ive just bought a raptor cant wait fit it. original one ok but not i dont like the idea of it busting on me. oh i dont like draining the tank all the time.  :)

Title: Re: Broke Down And Bought A New Petcock
Post by WoodLark on 03/18/10 at 04:48:44

I just installed a Raptor petcock yesterday. Haven't finished putting the bike back together so don't know how well it will work yet. Install was easy. Drain tank, remove two screws and rubber washers, lift out old petcock, drop in new petcock, reinstall screws and washers. Took maybe 10 minutes. BTW, it looks good!

Title: Re: Broke Down And Bought A New Petcock
Post by jabman on 03/18/10 at 05:16:27

yep i spent the 10 mins and fitted mine today   100% agree with above comments

Title: Re: Broke Down And Bought A New Petcock
Post by Routy on 03/18/10 at 07:21:25

Ok you guys w/ the Raptors,.......but fair warning,... when you roar off one day w/ your crankcase 1/2 full of gasoline, and you hear this strange rattlin noise, we can't feel sorry for you any more  :'(
;D

Title: Re: Broke Down And Bought A New Petcock
Post by jabman on 03/18/10 at 10:52:24

a piece of advise   i would most defiantly check the condition of your float valve and use an in-line fuel filter (even though it already has one)

that means there is no chance of bits stopping the valve from sticking  

this has worked with previous bikes that didnt have a vac fuel tap

Title: Re: Broke Down And Bought A New Petcock
Post by Serowbot on 03/18/10 at 11:03:07

Reminder to the Raptor installs....

Don't forget to block off the carb vacuum tap.... That must be plugged off,.. or you will have an air leak and run very lean... ;)

That's the rubber cap that the upper arrow is pointing to...
I put a screw in mine,... rubber will rot in a few months...
if you don't want to do that,... leave an inch of vacuum line on it and put a screw in the end of that...
http://i600.photobucket.com/albums/tt82/serowbot/plug.jpg?t=1251936339

Title: Re: Broke Down And Bought A New Petcock
Post by jabman on 03/18/10 at 12:05:59

yep nearly forgot to do that  :)

Title: Re: Broke Down And Bought A New Petcock
Post by WoodLark on 03/18/10 at 13:18:46

Blocked off vacuum port! I also installed an in-line fuel filter. Put bike back together today and it is running good. Sounds good with Dyna muffler too. Only problem, right rear turn signal not working. Probably have to do some rewiring, connections seem "iffy".

Title: Re: Broke Down And Bought A New Petcock
Post by Digger on 05/23/10 at 21:37:18


1204130E16030E15610 wrote:
Reminder to the Raptor installs....

Don't forget to block off the carb vacuum tap.... That must be plugged off,.. or you will have an air leak and run very lean... ;)

That's the rubber cap that the upper arrow is pointing to...
I put a screw in mine,... rubber will rot in a few months...
if you don't want to do that,... leave an inch of vacuum line on it and put a screw in the end of that...
http://i600.photobucket.com/albums/tt82/serowbot/plug.jpg?t=1251936339


Here's how I plugged my vacuum port when I went to the Raptor petcock:


http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee201/Digger109/CarbVacuumPortPlugE.jpg


There is a bit of silicone sealant inside of the hose where it is bent.

IHTH someone!

Title: Re: Broke Down And Bought A New Petcock
Post by Tiefighterpilot on 05/27/10 at 17:40:15

Good idea.

Title: Re: Broke Down And Bought A New Petcock
Post by crash_tx on 05/27/10 at 19:48:05


7C7369726E687B79717F681A0 wrote:
Ok you guys w/ the Raptors,.......but fair warning,... when you roar off one day w/ your crankcase 1/2 full of gasoline, and you hear this strange rattlin noise, we can't feel sorry for you any more  :'(
;D


Logic vs. common sense:

I've worked on 20 something plus Savages and I'd say more than half of them had a small continuous leak from diaphragm failure.  These leaks went unnoticed until the fuel line was removed for service.  In this case, what would happen if the needle valve failed...

Hmmmm... Oh Yeah- you roar off w/ your crankcase 1/2 full of gasoline, and you hear this strange rattlin noise...

To me, a vacuum operated shut-off valve is like having one of those plastic fences around your backyard swimming pool to protect your toddlers!  It' a FALSE sense of security and nothing compensates better than just good ol' preventative maintenance.

Put on the Raptor petcock, and train yourself to turn it off.  Don't depend on the vacuum petcock.  The vacuum sucks!  ;D

Title: Re: Broke Down And Bought A New Petcock
Post by verslagen1 on 05/27/10 at 19:57:10

there are options...

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Title: Re: Broke Down And Bought A New Petcock
Post by omahasavage on 05/27/10 at 19:59:51

80 bucks?  good lord.  get a raptor

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