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Message started by RTC on 03/12/10 at 20:53:50

Title: replace o-ring?
Post by RTC on 03/12/10 at 20:53:50

I will be doing the head plug replacement next weekend. I have read all the stuff in the tech section and feel very confident. My question is should I replace the o-ring in there, if so does anyone know if it has a part number. also any other tips or suggestion of things i should do while i have the head cover off(besides re-torquing head bolts and replacing spark plug)?

Title: Re: replace o-ring?
Post by verslagen1 on 03/12/10 at 21:06:39

SKU: 11178-24B00
O RING, CYLINDER HEAD COVER

http://www.babbittsonline.com/pages/parts/viewbybrand/parts.aspx

Title: Re: replace o-ring?
Post by RTC on 03/12/10 at 21:20:29

thank you very much. so i assume you are recommending that i replace it? or will it be depending on the condition of the existing one?

Title: Re: replace o-ring?
Post by verslagen1 on 03/12/10 at 21:32:19

The question you have to ask yourself...
"do I want to do this again for some 2bit part?"

Title: Re: replace o-ring?
Post by RTC on 03/12/10 at 21:37:22

gotcha...good answer

Title: Re: replace o-ring?...best online store
Post by RTC on 03/13/10 at 19:46:59

dealership sucked and didnt have the plug or oring in stock, the site you linked me to wanted about $16 shipping for a $12 order. i ended up getting it from bikebandit. i hope its here by saturday but i bet it won't be. anybody got a favorite online store? i like the way bike bandits sets up the schematics

Title: Re: replace o-ring?
Post by verslagen1 on 03/13/10 at 19:58:09

$16 ?!?!

well it pays to shop around.

bikebandit is fast, it's the goto if you want it right away.

but it's usually more expensive too.

Title: Re: replace o-ring?
Post by Oldfeller on 03/14/10 at 09:04:04

You are sealing the entire area with silicone gasket maker -- replacing the "O" ring is not required as it is undamaged when you peel the factory sealant off of it, and it is undamaged when you put it back with all the new goop.

Save the money and the time -- you can reuse it.

Title: Re: replace o-ring?
Post by verslagen1 on 03/14/10 at 10:06:36

The reason for this O-ring is to prevent goop from sealing off a vital oil port. Any damage to this part, nicks, flattening, etc. I'd replace it cause...
"do I want to do this again for some 2bit part?"

Title: Re: replace o-ring?
Post by Oldfeller on 03/14/10 at 12:38:31

But would you wait the 10 days for it?

You are correct that all it accomplishes is to keep the goop out of the port area until the goop gells up good -- the goop does all the sealing and leak preventing.

So what if it had a little nick? A microdrop of goop goes over the top of the ring and makes a little silicone hemorrhoid in the protected void area?

Its not like we don't directly extrude a bead edge of goop into the cam journal area that we intentionally let set up good so it doesn't go anywhere when we crank the engine over ....

Title: Re: replace o-ring?
Post by RTC on 03/14/10 at 12:49:53

i had to order the plug anyways so i just included the o-ring with it. i'm not exactly sure what you mean by putting the gasket maker over the oring. is this something that will be obvious to me once i get in there? i couldn't tell by the stuff in the tech section.

Title: Re: replace o-ring?
Post by Oldfeller on 03/14/10 at 13:02:20

You put it over the outside.

source thread: http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1256079122/15

http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/medium/ready_to_goop.JPG

Title: Re: replace o-ring?
Post by Digger on 05/23/10 at 20:40:14

This is too late to help the OP, I know, but here are the parts I replace whenever I'm taking the head cover off:

Oblong o-ring: 11178-24B00

2 X valve cover cap o-rings: 09280-60004

Camshaft end cap: 09241-30008

5 X washer gaskets: 09168-06023

The washer gaskets go under bolts 1, 2, 3, 4, and 13 in the pic below:

http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee201/Digger109/LS650/HeadCoverBoltTorqueOrder-4E.jpg

Incidentally, the above pic shows the torque order I used on the 14 head cover bolts.

All of the parts I listed above should be pretty cheap (nothing over $3.00, except for the camshaft end cap - which can probably be reused in most cases).

IHTH someone!

Title: Re: replace o-ring?
Post by RTC on 05/23/10 at 21:00:32

thanks bro...i accomplished the job without a hitch