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Message started by WoodLark on 03/10/10 at 13:11:24

Title: Side Cover Screw
Post by WoodLark on 03/10/10 at 13:11:24

I am doing some mods to my S40 and needed to get the left side cover off. I was unable to get the screw to loosen no matter what I did. I tried several different screwdrivers, used an impact tool, ground a new slot in the screw head, all to no avail. finally drilled the head off the screw. That allowed me to get the cover off, but now I have the little bit of the screw still stuck threaded into the weldnut. The isn't enough protruding to grab on to.

What are my options? Should I just drill out and retap the hole? If so, what size drill and tap would everyone recommend?

Title: Re: Side Cover Screw
Post by serenity3743 on 03/10/10 at 13:21:46

Have you tried penetrating oil to free the threads up a little?  If not, do that and then use a Dremel cutting wheel to cut a slot in the ragged end of the screw.  It should then back out with just a regular screwdriver.

If you end up drilling and tapping, find a workable size bolt first (4, 5, or 6 mm) and tap it to fit.  HTH

Title: Re: Side Cover Screw
Post by MMRanch on 03/10/10 at 17:50:30

The screw is made out of steel ,  The housing is made of Alumium.  If you heat the Alumium it will swell to a larger hole and the steel woin't swell  as much.   Also if it has locktight in it the heat will make the locktight turn loose.  Put some tork on it as you heat it, it should slowly start to move as the locktight softens.

I would use a pencil torch.  Also rember heat goes up.  so lay the bike on the other side the keep the heat from going into the crankcase , you know with the  heated area as high as posible in comparison to the rest of the bike.

A lot easier that drilling and retapping.  Good luck !

Let us know how it comes out .

Title: Re: Side Cover Screw
Post by jef.savage on 03/10/10 at 19:53:57

You can get a screw extractor that goes into the screw after you drill a smaller hole through the middle.  It's left hand threaded so it tightens as the screw loosens.  In combination with the other ideas here it should save the hole.

Sears sells them as well as most hardware stores.

Title: Re: Side Cover Screw
Post by MMRanch on 03/10/10 at 23:31:40

Hay

I was just thinking .....

if you lay the bike on its side gas may leak out .... then you come in with a torch ?????

Not good........ take the tank off .......... but the heat will make the locktight loosen up .

Title: Re: Side Cover Screw
Post by diamond jim on 03/11/10 at 00:14:17


5E4C5E4C41525D505B130 wrote:
Hay

I was just thinking .....

if you lay the bike on its side gas may leak out .... then you come in with a torch ?????

Not good........


:o

Title: Re: Side Cover Screw
Post by WoodLark on 03/11/10 at 04:32:15


0E1C0E1C11020D000B430 wrote:
Hay

I was just thinking .....

if you lay the bike on its side gas may leak out .... then you come in with a torch ?????

Not good........ take the tank off .......... but the heat will make the locktight loosen up .


Actually, the tank (and carburetor) are already off. If I can find the screw extractor, I may try a combination of that and heat.

Title: Re: Side Cover Screw
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 03/11/10 at 09:23:18

Wintergreen oil is one FIne penetrating oil. If you can lay the bike over some, it should oooze on down real well.

Title: Re: Side Cover Screw
Post by Digger on 03/12/10 at 21:44:44

If you have to resort to drilling, I suggest using a left-handed drill bit.

You might just get lucky!

Title: Re: Side Cover Screw
Post by Serowbot on 03/12/10 at 21:59:40


3F2026213C3B0A3A0A32202C67550 wrote:
Wintergreen oil is one FIne penetrating oil. If you can lay the bike over some, it should oooze on down real well.

I keep meaning to write that down,... I never remember when I'm out...
So, here I go, doing it again,.. no pencil... :-?

I really am gonna' get some.... ;)

Also,... use rubbing alcohol for pulling and installing grips... works great...
Good for back pain too!... :-?


Title: Re: Side Cover Screw
Post by miker on 03/13/10 at 06:28:11


2E3137302D2A1B2B1B23313D76440 wrote:
Wintergreen oil is one FIne penetrating oil. If you can lay the bike over some, it should oooze on down real well.

I never knew that. I have used it to locate air leaks on pnumatic control systems, but not as a penetrating oil. Since I learned something today, this day was not wasted!

Title: Re: Side Cover Screw
Post by fascar228 on 03/15/10 at 23:19:23

woodlark,

The way we do it here is to weld a bolt with electric drill to the protruding part of the screw and once cooled use a wrench to unscrew.

Title: Re: Side Cover Screw
Post by fascar228 on 03/15/10 at 23:20:33

OOPPPS not an electric drill BUT an ELECTRIC WELDER!!!!

Title: Re: Side Cover Screw
Post by fascar228 on 03/15/10 at 23:26:46

What Fate? ur side cover screw would not come off, mine just loosened and the whole side cover flew off. The rider behind me saw it but by the time we went to retrieve it cars had trampled it. Had to get it dented and painted. It was a nightmare to match the colour (The cranberry red/pink/maroon...whatever). It really hurt as it a brand new bike with 645miles now. :( :( :(

Title: Re: Side Cover Screw
Post by WoodLark on 03/16/10 at 05:23:26

I lucked out. I started drilling out the center of the bolt (with a right-handed bit). After the bit had gone in a short way, it bound up and turned the screw. It went on through and out the other side (luckily it wasn't a blind hole).

Title: Re: Side Cover Screw
Post by Yonuh Adisi on 03/16/10 at 06:27:43

That is lucky, now just go to a home supply store and get a matching bolt and you should be set.

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