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Title: spoke adjustment Post by jabman on 01/30/10 at 14:54:41 well after changing all my rear wheel and pulley bearings, ive still got my annoying clicking sounds on further inspection ive got some loose spokes on my rear wheel does anyone have any tips on sorting this, without warping the wheel ? should i tighten them evenly ? :-/ |
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Title: Re: spoke adjustment Post by Yonuh Adisi on 01/30/10 at 15:11:12 Tightening the spokes while keeping the wheel true is a tricky and tedious business. I have never done it so I can't really give any advice. |
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Title: Re: spoke adjustment Post by bill67 on 01/30/10 at 16:56:12 You can get a spoke torque wrench. |
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Title: Re: spoke adjustment Post by JohnBoy on 01/30/10 at 17:22:58 4A41424D414E200 wrote:
How much trouble was changing the pulley bearing? Did it require special tools? How much was the bearing? did you buy from the dealer or a bearing supply house? Thanks for the input JB |
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Title: Re: spoke adjustment Post by verslagen1 on 01/30/10 at 19:07:48 Loose spokes huh tighten while spinning get your self a wire secure it to something and set the end near the rim to give yourself a reference. slowly tighten each spoke alittle at a time they should pluck and ring all the same when you're finished. |
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Title: Re: spoke adjustment Post by justin_o_guy2 on 01/30/10 at 19:22:43 As Vers says get your self a wire secure it to something and set the end near the rim to give yourself a reference. You can put one on each side & you wont be going wrong at all. Its really self explanatory. Go slow, dont try to set a loose spoke all the way on one pass. Look for a section of rim that varies from the rest. Go to the point with the most deflection, tighten the spoke that would pull it back into line the the ones that pull it that direction next to the one tightened. Drizzling a penetrating oil down the spokes the day before you try it msy be a good idea. Maybe you could take a very small crescent wrench & check to see if the nipples have corroded to the spokes. |
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Title: Re: spoke adjustment Post by jabman on 01/31/10 at 00:03:09 0C292E2804293F460 wrote:
How much trouble was changing the pulley bearing? Did it require special tools? How much was the bearing? did you buy from the dealer or a bearing supply house? Thanks for the input JB[/quote] the pulley bearing was significantly easier then the wheel bearings. no special tools needed. remove wheel. lift out pulley. remove spacer from inside pulley. prise out the dust seal (replace this and the wheel bearing). turn pulley over. insert large socket with an extension piece attached. hit hard to force bearing out the same way as the seal. clean and grease inside. evenly tap the new bearing into place, tapping in the outside edge only. push new dust over the bearing. done I ordered a bearing kit with all the bearings and dust seal on line |
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Title: Re: spoke adjustment Post by dasch on 01/31/10 at 02:41:09 Jab, from my experience, you should tighten ones that are really loose just to the point where they don't rattle without the wheel stand and all other centering gear. A turn or two more - wheel may go off alignment. On the other hand - it is probably off already. So, next step: When I installed a wider rim, I made a stand out of two guitar stands. I used a felt tip pen instead of a wire, so it marked exactly where the spinning wheel was off left and right. 6mm fork wrench is a great (maybe even better) substitute for a "special" spoke tool. And there you go - went in half turn increments, spinning wheel, wiping off pen marks, and checking constantly. Tighten to minimize pen marks untill you are happy. Not hard, just takes some thinking and patience. |
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Title: Re: spoke adjustment Post by trublu on 01/31/10 at 05:15:04 Felt tip pen?? ;) AWESOME tip!! Adding that to my book of tricks THANKS!! GREAT IDEA! 8-) 8-) |
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Title: Re: spoke adjustment Post by Charon on 01/31/10 at 05:39:53 The penetrating oil on the spoke nipples sounds like a good idea, but I think you would want to use it sparingly. That's because on the other end of the spoke nipple is a rubber rim strip and a rubber inner tube. Rubber usually doesn't react well to petroleum-based penetrating oil. |
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Title: Re: spoke adjustment Post by dasch on 01/31/10 at 07:22:34 Felt tip pen, yup. Make sure it's erasable ;) Leaves a nice mark wherever rim is warped. As you adjust, line gets shorter and shorter. |
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Title: Re: spoke adjustment Post by trublu on 01/31/10 at 07:38:14 dasch, thats reallya GREAT tip bud!! I can see how that works and Id a never thought of that. Im definitely gonna remember that one ;) 8-) |
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Title: Re: spoke adjustment Post by Phelonius on 01/31/10 at 09:47:39 I use a hypodermic syringe and Marvel misery oil. That way I can apply a very minute amount to the spoke thread. Marvel oil contains a small amount of oil of wintergreen (that is why it smells good) which is a truely marvelous penetrant. By applying such a small amount, I do not worry about what it will do to the rubber inside. I use a spoke wrench to both play the music and turn the spoke head. You do not pluck it like a harp. You hammer it lightly like a piano string with the wrench. With the wheel up off the floor so no strain is upon it, sound all the spokes to get an idea of the tension all round. Mark the dull sounding ones with a crayon or wipe-able marker, one dot for dull , two dots for dead sounds. This will give a general idea of the wheel. Rig an index mark to indicate out of round and side to side variance. Correct by halves. The very best way is to find someone with a trueing jig and beg it's use. Phelonius |
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