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Message started by babyhog on 01/26/10 at 10:20:31

Title: Camping hammock
Post by babyhog on 01/26/10 at 10:20:31

My hubby bought one of these yesterday.  The bag is not much bigger than a softball, we figured it would pack in a saddlebag real easy!  
Anyone ever seen one or used one?  What do you think?  

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Title: Re: Camping hammock
Post by BurnPgh on 01/26/10 at 11:03:21

I've got one. Lightweight, small, water resistant. Mine only has a 250lb weight limit though so dont try to squeee you and hubby in at the same time.

Title: Re: Camping hammock
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 01/26/10 at 11:54:47

Hammocks dont really make sleeping on the stomach very danged easy, now do they?
Im pretty fond of parachute cord when packing & hauling stuff. Knowing a few knots & being able to tie them quickly really helps &, even tho I am very proficient with cords I have a little device from Harbor Freight that has proven itself to make a very quick, easy & dependable way to secure a load. I have it on the side of the bike & it gets used when I load the gym bag that sits on the seat. IMO, the single most versatile knot is the bowline & can be tied in less than 5 seconds & it can always be untied. If anyone wants to know the trick to it, Ill explain it. Maybe Reelthing can pitch in.

Title: Re: Camping hammock
Post by babyhog on 01/26/10 at 13:33:31


7047405C62555A320 wrote:
I've got one. Lightweight, small, water resistant. Mine only has a 250lb weight limit though so dont try to squeee you and hubby in at the same time.


This "double" says 400# limit.  I sure hope its more than 250, cause hubby is about that by himself.  Course 400 leaves plenty of room for poor little ole me....

And no, O-guy, if you are a tummy-sleeper, a hammock ain't the best!  But in this case, he'll be on his back, and I can be on my tummy on his tummy...  yea!

And I'm not sure how esplainin a knot without visual aids will work, but if you can tell me how to do it, then I'll be happy to read it.... and I'll even try it!

An accessory to this hammock is what they call "slap straps".  Haven't checked them out in detail, but they seem to be easier than normal straps.  

Title: Re: Camping hammock
Post by buttgoat1 on 01/26/10 at 16:13:49

easy now BabyH, this is a family site here.....

Title: Re: Camping hammock
Post by thumperclone on 01/26/10 at 16:36:43

i used to take a hammock camping, was great for naps and reading..had to stop
in our state parks and national forest campgrounds you cant tye anything to a tree anymore..

Title: Re: Camping hammock
Post by babyhog on 01/26/10 at 17:04:26


5A4D5E4B4D4A4D5E412C0 wrote:
easy now BabyH, this is a family site here.....


Really??    8-)

and good point thumperclone, I'll have to check into the ability to tie things to trees here...

Title: Re: Camping hammock
Post by runwyrlph on 01/26/10 at 17:12:56


65726174727572617E130 wrote:
easy now BabyH, this is a family site here.....


jeez babyhog!  you must have cabin fever or sumpin with these here posts lately!   :)

Title: Re: Camping hammock
Post by Tonydtiger1971 on 01/26/10 at 18:31:34

I was able to pick up one for each of us recently in Asheville for $15.00 each.  There's nothing better when you go on a hiking trip.

Title: Re: Camping hammock
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 01/26/10 at 22:43:03

To tie a bowline, tie a slip knot

Theres the one that "trips" the slip knot & pulls it tight on whatever is stuck in it,or simply makes it "slip" & come untied. Ill call that the "Live end", then, theres the other end. Ill call that the "Tag end"
Take the Tag End & poke it thru the loop of the slip knot.
Then, pull the live end, very slowly & watch the Tag End as it gets sucked into the hole & folded back on itself. You may have to help it get thru the hole & fold back on itself.
Thats a bowline. Study it & see how to untie it. These knots are used on the biggest ropes you can imagine, like on huge barges & can be untied, no matter how tight they get pulled. It may take a hammer & pry bar on a 6" diameter rope, but it'll let go.
There are books on knots, but Ive never seen anyone tie a bowline the way I do it. You might try cutting a rubber band & tying a slip knot on one end & poking the other end of the rubber band in it, like you were trying to tie it back together where you cut it. Thats what I was doing when I discovered this way of tying one. I was trying to Fix a busted rubber band, so I could pop a co worker.

Title: Re: Camping hammock
Post by babyhog on 01/27/10 at 08:20:30

JOG, I'll have to try that when I can sit down and actually get my brain into it.  Can't do it right now.  But thanks!

Tony, you got a great deal!  I'm glad to see there are a few people who like the hammock.    

And yes, runwyrlph, I'm sure I do have cabin fever, along with being overstressed from work, this dang crappy weather is totally on my last nerve, and not being able to ride!   I'm ready to strangle something!  Oh, and I can add that today I have a POUNDING headache!  Nice.

Title: Re: Camping hammock
Post by gerald.hughes on 01/27/10 at 08:41:00

Babyhog,

When the weather improved, and you are out on your favorite ride, take a tape recorder (or modern equivalent) along with you and get a recording of the sound of the ride.  Then, when the weather is crappy, or job is crappy, or both, you can close your eyes, put on the recording, and be back on your favorite ride.  Not perfect, but it sure helps.

Title: Re: Camping hammock
Post by babyhog on 01/27/10 at 09:58:07

Thanks Gerald.  Come to think of it, I tried to make a ringtone for my phone of my bike running.  So I do have a couple short recordings of it.  And I made a video while riding on the back of hubby's bike last summer.  I'm gonna give your suggestion a try tonight!    

Title: Re: Camping hammock
Post by Phelonius on 01/27/10 at 10:03:53

For ultra light camping a hammock is about as simple as it gets if your body is comfortable in one.
I suggest when the rig is tied properly between two trees, you then draw a cord tight in a straight line over it and drape a light weight tarp across it as a rain fly.
You can also drape a mosquito mesh across the taught line and allow it to simply drape around you for some pretty effective protection.

Phelonius

Title: Re: Camping hammock
Post by babyhog on 01/27/10 at 10:20:10


69515C555657504C4A390 wrote:
For ultra light camping a hammock is about as simple as it gets if your body is comfortable in one.
I suggest when the rig is tied properly between two trees, you then draw a cord tight in a straight line over it and drape a light weight tarp across it as a rain fly.
You can also drape a mosquito mesh across the taught line and allow it to simply drape around you for some pretty effective protection.

Phelonius


I was reading reviews on this hammock and a reviewer mentioned a net.  Hubby went back to Gander Mountain yesterday to look for the slap-straps and net.  They were out of straps and it didn't look like they ever had any kind of netting to go with it.  Mosquito mesh is a great idea.  I'll find something suitable.  I hate bugs, especially mosquitos!  I sew, so I bet I can find something at the fabric shop and make something myself!  I think it will definitely be an asset to motorcycle camping.    

Title: Re: Camping hammock
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 01/27/10 at 11:44:45

Being able to make cords do what you want is important. Being able to get things tight takes more than "Grunt POwer", it takes knowing how. Loops to use like pulleys make all the difference & sleeping un a U shaped hammock would suck, but the tension required to hold something heavy out flat with a rope is enormous. You can take a chain thats got all kinds of tension on it & still deflect it in the middle, so imagine a rope with a hammock & 200 pounds in it. Gonna need a rope that doesnt stretch much & the ability to get it WAY tight between the trees. If you have a stable tie off & a load to move & you can put a pulley on the load, then a rope from the tie off, to the load( thru the pulley) & back to you, standing at the tie off, you pull 50 pounds on the rope = a 100 pound pull on the load. Minus friction in the "pulley" & IF that Pulley is a loop in a rope, theres some friction, but you still gain leverage.

Title: Re: Camping hammock
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 01/27/10 at 11:57:29

A double 1/2 hitch/ clove hitch is the next knot to know. Easy as pie to tie, but gotta have someone show it to you, to do it the fastest way, But, you can learn it, sitting at the table. Take a 3 or 4 foot length ot light rope. heavy string, parachute cord is my fave.

lay it out straight, take one end &make a circle on the table with one side of the rope, so that it kinda looks like a someone made a 270 * left turn to turn right, it goes in a circle to the left & then crosses its own path. Now, do the same thing on the other end, so that the ends are headed opposite directions. Take the loops & pick them up by the outer edges & keep the ends up out of the middle, Poke an arm thru& tighten & look at where the rope crosses itself. Its an X & the ends of the rope come out under the middle of it. Once someone studies that knot, they can grab a rope & , holding it in both hands, twist the wrists & place the 2 loops together & have it. Super easy, even easier than the Bowline.

Title: Re: Camping hammock
Post by Phelonius on 01/27/10 at 12:11:32

Note to the baby hog,  As you may imagine, draping the mosquito mesh still leaves an opening at each end although a small one.
spray the mesh at each end and you do not need to put that carcinogenic stuff on your skin.  mosquitos don't want cancer either so they won't try to get in.
Sitting around a camp in the evenings, I sometimes wear a cheap Davy Crockett coonskin cap. I spray the sides and the tail with repellant as well as the cuffs of my sleeves.  This pretty well creates a mosquito boycott effect.  Another thing is to sit near someone who drinks a lot of beer, they will prefer the beer drinkers' sweeter blood.

Phelonius

Title: Re: Camping hammock
Post by EJID on 01/27/10 at 12:18:56


1E262B222120273B3D4E0 wrote:
Note to the baby hog,  As you may imagine, draping the mosquito mesh still leaves an opening at each end although a small one.
spray the mesh at each end and you do not need to put that carcinogenic stuff on your skin.  mosquitos don't want cancer either so they won't try to get in.
Sitting around a camp in the evenings, I sometimes wear a cheap Davy Crockett coonskin cap. I spray the sides and the tail with repellant as well as the cuffs of my sleeves.  This pretty well creates a mosquito boycott effect.  Another thing is to sit near someone who drinks a lot of beer, they will prefer the beer drinkers' sweeter blood.

Phelonius


No wonder I'm always bit all to hell whenever we go camping  http://suzukisavage.com/yabb2.2/Smilies/beer.gif

Title: Re: Camping hammock
Post by babyhog on 01/28/10 at 06:46:15

What if I'm the one drinking the beer?  And I'm the sweetest already, you know!  But nah, hubby out-drinks me easy!  Any tip I can get concerning mosquitos is good to me!  I have even pulled my hair into a ponytail and sprayed bugspray into my hands and rubbed onto the ends of my hair.  Yea, nasty, but it makes a good horsetail whip!    

and JOG, can you make a hangmen's noose?  Hubby was a Marine, so he learned all those knots.  Would still be good for me to learn them tho.    

Title: Re: Camping hammock
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 01/28/10 at 09:42:22

Eat garlic, its supposed to keep the skeeters from Vanteenk your Blooood..

& Yea, I can do a hangmans noose. Run the rope back & forth 3 times, then wrap that core with 13 turns, stick the "Tag" end thru one of the loops to keep it & (IIRC) the other loop becomes the neck snapper, but its been years & Id just have to play with it.

Title: Re: Camping hammock
Post by Phelonius on 01/28/10 at 09:49:23


2E2D2C212339400 wrote:
What if I'm the one drinking the beer?  And I'm the sweetest already, you know!  But nah, hubby out-drinks me easy!  Any tip I can get concerning mosquitos is good to me!  I have even pulled my hair into a ponytail and sprayed bugspray into my hands and rubbed onto the ends of my hair.  Yea, nasty, but it makes a good horsetail whip!    

and JOG, can you make a hangmen's noose?  Hubby was a Marine, so he learned all those knots.  Would still be good for me to learn them tho.    


Ask a chief Bos'ns mate, there are 43 recognized bowline knots.  There is only one hangmans knot that is official.
Range out a bout a fathom and a half of 2 1/2 inch circumference manila, (if available hemp is traditional but hard to get anymore), and form a loop. Bring the end back towards the loop and the wrap it thirteen times around the S turn that you formed. Tuck the end through the bight at the top and by pulling the proper leg of the loop, tighten this bight to form the knot.  Pull the hauling end to adjust the size of the noose.
Bear in mind that in some jurisdictions, this is now recognized as a deadly weapon.
Just curious, do you have a politician in mind or are you looking for suggestions?
myself, I am a traditionalist that prefers tar and feathers and a rail.

Phelonius

Title: Re: Camping hammock
Post by bill67 on 01/28/10 at 10:09:53

 I've heard mosquitoes don't like fabric softeners like Snuggles,But I've never tried them.

Title: Re: Camping hammock
Post by EJID on 01/28/10 at 11:47:46


272C29297372450 wrote:
 I've heard mosquitoes don't like fabric softeners like Snuggles,But I've never tried them.


My wife got teased immensely on our last camping trip because she brought "Bounce" dryer sheets for that very reason. They seemed to help to some degree by rubbing it on exposed skin, but she started spreading them out all around her (she HATES bugs - you should see our collection of citronella candles)

Title: Re: Camping hammock
Post by verslagen1 on 01/28/10 at 11:49:29

I heard one person say they just tucked in the sheets in their sleeves.

Title: Re: Camping hammock
Post by babyhog on 01/28/10 at 12:47:55


111E1D10540 wrote:
[quote author=272C29297372450 link=1264530031/15#22 date=1264702193]  I've heard mosquitoes don't like fabric softeners like Snuggles,But I've never tried them.


My wife got teased immensely on our last camping trip because she brought "Bounce" dryer sheets for that very reason. They seemed to help to some degree by rubbing it on exposed skin, but she started spreading them out all around her (she HATES bugs - you should see our collection of citronella candles) [/quote]

Ha! Me too!  Sounds like you and your wife, and me and my husband should camp together... you and he can sit around the campfire and drink beer, and me and your wife can kill all the bugs!  But that doesn't sound very fair, does it.  Ok, she and I can throw empty beer cans at the bugs!  haha

Title: Re: Camping hammock
Post by Bigzuk on 01/28/10 at 16:29:21

I have used this type of hammock on ATV campouts for years. All those knots are hard to work even before the beer.
I carry two lightweight ratchett straps, ea. is 15' long, pack in the bag with the hammock and are easy to adjust to the spacing of the trees. Also forest service people like a 1" strap on the tree more than a rope.

Bigzuk

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