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Title: Primary gear nut / Help Post by retired on 01/19/10 at 16:55:42 I want to put on my new timing chain. But I cant get this nut off the primary gear.The book said it is a left hand tread,comes off clockwise and to put a copper washer between the gear to hold it till you free the nut? Using a two foot breaker bar I still cant get the nut loose .Twice the copper washer passed through the gear,even doubled pennies came through. This nut is tight. What can I do? This site said not to use an air tool . Help! |
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Title: Re: Primary gear nut / Help Post by ero4444 on 01/19/10 at 17:57:55 well I'm working on dropping my oil pan, just broke another bolt and dang I wish I'd put heat on it before it broke. so I suggest clean off the oil in that area and torch it a little. But I've never seen that nut myself. Sounds like you need two pennies but they're not really copper anymore |
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Title: Re: Primary gear nut / Help Post by Serowbot on 01/19/10 at 18:00:55 There are better experts here than me,... so this a sorta' bump... but,.. Can you get a nickel in there, or a fatter washer?... I don't think you want to use an impact hammer or wrench on it, ... so I'd try to stay with the breaker bar,... get it in position and use your foot.. If you can get someone to sit on the bike and hold it steady, that might help... |
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Title: Re: Primary gear nut / Help Post by verslagen1 on 01/19/10 at 18:12:04 The fact that your engine can eat a penny gots me worried. I wouldn't put a nickle in there too hard, may break a tooth. Savage greg used a chunk of aluminum. clymers shows you feeding the penny in from the bottom, it that what you're doing? |
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Title: Re: Primary gear nut / Help Post by Serowbot on 01/19/10 at 18:15:22 Is a nickel harder than a penny?... I thought they were all made of zinc now... Sorry, my mistake... |
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Title: Re: Primary gear nut / Help Post by justin_o_guy2 on 01/19/10 at 21:00:12 I used a piece of leather folded & an impact to bust that thing out. Is there a folded washer/retainer on that thing? I cant remember. |
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Title: Re: Primary gear nut / Help Post by Serowbot on 01/19/10 at 21:25:29 Leather,.. I'm taking a mental note of that one... ;) |
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Title: Re: Primary gear nut / Help Post by justin_o_guy2 on 01/19/10 at 21:33:32 3B2D3A273F2A273C480 wrote:
Pre - 1982 are copper. |
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Title: Re: Primary gear nut / Help Post by BurnPgh on 01/20/10 at 00:09:12 697A6D6C737E787A712E1F0 wrote:
Had to use 2 pennies and even then they BARELY escaped getting eaten. That nut is a doosey for sure. Dont remember quite how i did it but I remember I spent 20 cents or so getting it done. Knowing myself, I either got it by trying over and over until it finally broke or I took a hammer to the end of the tourque wrench until I got it( I know, not a great idea). I did finally get it. Keep trying. Do NOT take it to a shop. You can get it done. Just keeping heaving on the bar and/or grab a hammer to wail on the end of the wrench/bar. Id recommend doing whatever you gotta do now while you got it apart. I personally would and did apply red locktite to the thread before putting the nut back on (after thoroughly cleaning the thread of course) and am not super happy to be taking it apart so soon. Happy cause Im doing performance mods and the end result will be worth the effort, while the last time was repair/preventative maint. ,but still not happy about the effort. |
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Title: Re: Primary gear nut / Help Post by justin_o_guy2 on 01/20/10 at 00:47:03 Maybe rent an impact & save yourself some grief |
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Title: Re: Primary gear nut / Help Post by BurnPgh on 01/20/10 at 00:53:41 you're no fun then are you? |
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Title: Re: Primary gear nut / Help Post by kennycreed on 01/20/10 at 01:55:45 anybody know the reason for NOT! using the air drive on it I have always used the Impact on it and comes off in a second no probs. |
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Title: Re: Primary gear nut / Help Post by serenity3743 on 01/20/10 at 05:18:08 I just finished cam chain replacement and adjuster. There is NOT a folded washer on that nut. Yours sounds tighter than mine was. But I held the shaft from the opposite end (timing cover, 17mm bolt) while loosening the large nut clockwise. Hope that helps. |
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Title: Re: Primary gear nut / Help Post by justin_o_guy2 on 01/20/10 at 10:32:46 5D6A6D714F78771F0 wrote:
I guess Im just not, Im sorry. When its time to rassle with something mechanical, I just want to win. I Have jumped up & down on cheaters & torn things up, heck, at my age, I just dont wanna play that any more. |
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Title: Re: Primary gear nut / Help Post by retired on 01/20/10 at 10:55:03 Ha! I got that darn nut loose. I heated it with a torch just a little,and slid a 4' piece of pipe over the handle of the breaker bar for lavage and it came loose . Thanks. |
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Title: Re: Primary gear nut / Help Post by Serowbot on 01/20/10 at 11:25:35 Woof!... :-? "Give me a lever long enough, a fulcrum strong enough and I'll move the world" -Archimedes ;) |
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Title: Re: Primary gear nut / Help Post by justin_o_guy2 on 01/20/10 at 12:13:42 Congratulations! |
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Title: Re: Primary gear nut / Help Post by runwyrlph on 01/20/10 at 15:41:07 485E49544C59544F3B0 wrote:
eureka! |
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Title: Re: Primary gear nut / Help Post by verslagen1 on 01/20/10 at 17:28:46 796F78657D68657E0A0 wrote:
one of my favorite quotes |
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