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Message started by JohnBoy on 01/07/10 at 13:53:23

Title: textured Rust-oleum: the Tank!
Post by JohnBoy on 01/07/10 at 13:53:23

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_TCSH6bqjHEM/S0ZP-FIvD_I/AAAAAAAAAmU/dZwn7mUTSzc/s576/leftside%20paint.jpg
Now that the holidays are over I can get back to painting the sled.

I'm using a textured paint from Rust-olium. It is a multi color texture paint called aged iron Part number 223525. They make several colors.
This color is a dark gray, almost black, with flecks of white beige and rust. This paint is designed for painting metal furniture that lives outside so it's pretty tough. I used the same paint on the rocker panels of my truck two years ago and they still look great.

I used this paint on a test piece. After one week to cure, I left DOT3 brake fluid standing on it over night. It knocked the texture down a little and left a white ring where the puddle was, but nothing more. Repair was as simple as a quick mask off and another shot of paint.

My plans are to paint the side tins, fenders, chainguard, tank, and maybe the battery box. I am thinking that I will paint the tank with red gloss side panels and some gold pinstripe tape (texture everywhere else).

So, what do you think of textured paint on a bike?
If I don't get side tracked I will post pictures of the finished paint job.
JB

Title: Re: repainting with textured Rust-oleum
Post by John_D on 01/08/10 at 01:28:54

Cool, can't wait to see what it looks like! 8-)

Title: Re: repainting with textured Rust-oleum
Post by PerrydaSavage on 01/08/10 at 08:05:18

I like it! 8-)

Title: Re: repainting with textured Rust-oleum
Post by treyes on 01/08/10 at 08:32:46

I'm a fan as well.

I used it to paint some chrome parts under the hood of my car, and its held up well in there for the past 5 years or so

Title: Re: repainting with textured Rust-oleum
Post by JohnBoy on 01/08/10 at 09:23:51

292F3824382E5D0 wrote:

I'm a fan as well.

I used it to paint some chrome parts under the hood of my car, and its held up well in there for the past 5 years or so

That's good to know!
thanks
JB

Title: Re: repainting with textured Rust-oleum
Post by buttgoat1 on 01/08/10 at 10:13:43

ditto,
I dechromed my shiny head covors, battery box, and toolkit coverd with it.
has stood up well for me too.

gonna do the transmission side cases whenever i get around to it

Title: Re: repainting with textured Rust-oleum:pictures
Post by JohnBoy on 01/09/10 at 12:36:12

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_TCSH6bqjHEM/S0jl3O22jUI/AAAAAAAAAm4/MMqGTGkxylc/s576/textrued%20fender1.jpg
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_TCSH6bqjHEM/S0jl9pQRjII/AAAAAAAAAm8/POXWUMLUsBo/s576/textrued%20fender2.jpg
The fenders and side tins were a snap, but the tank will take a while.
I plan to paint it dark red, then highlight the sides with black shadow under some gold "Hammer Finish" lettering. Finally, I want to cover all but the side panels with the same texture Aged Iron as the fenders. It is my intent to do it all in rattle can (just to prove it can be done). The problem here is the cure time between steps; so it will be awhile.
JB

Title: Re: repainting with textured Rust-oleum
Post by kimchris1 on 01/09/10 at 18:22:12

I like the fender and can't wait to see your tank. Great idea and job on what you have accomplished so far.. [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Title: Re: repainting with textured Rust-oleum
Post by babyhog on 01/09/10 at 20:28:41

I like it too!

Title: Re: repainting with textured Rust-oleum
Post by Savage_Amusement on 01/09/10 at 21:00:06

That is looking really good! I like how the front fender turned out.

Title: Re: repainting with textured Rust-oleum
Post by wolfmrp on 01/10/10 at 11:59:25

Looks great. What prep work did you do before painting? Primer? Bare metal? Scuffed paint?

Title: Re: repainting with textured Rust-oleum
Post by MMRanch on 01/10/10 at 15:01:51

I read about the brake fluid but what about Gas ((fuel)ha,ha) ?

Does it work on gas tanks , without looking bad after a few fuel station clean-ups.?

This thing might catch on !

Title: Re: repainting with textured Rust-oleum
Post by Rocco on 01/11/10 at 08:06:24

sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet!!!

Title: Re: repainting with textured Rust-oleum
Post by Phelonius on 01/11/10 at 09:41:59

These bike are slow enough without more wind resistance.

Phelonius

Title: Re: repainting with textured Rust-oleum
Post by JohnBoy on 01/11/10 at 20:06:07

"Resistance is futile"

Title: Re: repainting with textured Rust-oleum
Post by runwyrlph on 01/12/10 at 12:58:12

vive le resistance!

Title: Re: repainting with textured Rust-oleum
Post by Biddie on 01/13/10 at 07:44:26

66746674796A6568632B0 wrote:

Does it work on gas tanks , without looking bad after a few fuel station clean-ups.?

I have my bike painted the exact same way and I've spilled some gas before with no adverse effects. Well except for smelling like gasoline when I got home, but I like that smell. ;D

Title: Re: repainting with textured Rust-oleum
Post by LostArtist on 01/13/10 at 11:07:04

320A070E0D0C0B1711620 wrote:

These bike are slow enough without more wind resistance.

Phelonius

aren't somethings faster with a bit of texture, like golf balls?? the turbulence over the roughness causes a windbreak allowing them to go faster or something, <--- just made that whole thing up!!! but I did hear something about pitted golf balls going faster than smooth ones. and it's not like we're working on breaking land speed records or anything.

so far I like it! can't wait to see it all done

Title: Re: repainting with textured Rust-oleum
Post by verslagen1 on 01/13/10 at 14:07:21

63405C5B6E5D5B465C5B2F0 wrote:

True, pitted balls go further. Due to the pits tripping the air flow from laminar to turbulent and reducing the drag upon the ball.

Title: Re: repainting with textured Rust-oleum
Post by bill67 on 01/13/10 at 15:55:05

So when a S40 gets pitted from rust it should be faster right.

Title: Re: repainting with textured Rust-oleum
Post by serenity3743 on 01/14/10 at 05:03:37

Not necessarily faster, it just goes farther! ;D

Title: Re: repainting with textured Rust-oleum
Post by LostArtist on 01/14/10 at 13:49:00

lighter too, all natural bobbing

Title: Re: repainting with textured Rust-oleum: The Tank!
Post by JohnBoy on 01/23/10 at 11:25:07

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_TCSH6bqjHEM/S1tJ2thV4zI/AAAAAAAAAn8/ZmZRmLO9Hyk/s576/roadkill1.jpg
Yes Virginia, custom paint can be achieved with a spray can.

The first step is to sand and clean. This is the most important step in the whole project so don’t cheat yourself here. Use latex gloves and plenty of acetone or lacquer thinner. “ANY” oil or grease including fingerprints will ruin your work. A good hint here is canned carburetor cleaner to chase grease and loose dirt out of any cracks and welds. I used 320 grit sandpaper, which will give plenty of bite for the primer.

Two coats of white Rustoleum 7980830 - White Primer was laid down according to instructions. After 24 hours the primer was sanded with 600 grit wet and dry and clean water.

The first color laid down was Rustoleum 7210830 – Gold. This hammered finish gives a look of gold leaf. I masked the area allowing gold only where the lettering would appear. After the gold cured I sanded “lightly” with 600 grit and water.

The next color was the black, Rustoleum 248643 - Gloss Black. I masked the tank sides leaving the flowers and the lettering covered and then painted the black badges. I used two coats of black and finished with 600 grit and water. Once the remaining frisket was removed, I had white flowers and gold lettering against a black field. More frisket covered the badges leaving only the white tank.

The next color was Rustoleum gloss red 248642, two coats, “Heavy” sanding with water, and two more coats. All frisket was removed and a light sanding with 600 grit and water. This blended all the rough edges of the different colors. Next came the gold pen stripe tape. (again, no fingerprints!). The green and yellow color (Testors model enamel) and the flower detail (3B Drawing pencil) were added.

Next came the clear. I used Rustoleum crystal clear 7701. I shot two coats and sanded with #0000 steel wool. This fills flaws, locks the pen stripping, and builds gloss on the side panels. A combination of clear coats and rubbing compound yield an acceptable gloss.

I mask the side panels and painted the remainder of the tank with Rustoleum high heat 246875. This was done to provide a transition zone from the gloss red to the texture finish. On my test piece the solvent in the texture paint softened the clear coats when it wicked back under the frisket. If you choose to use the Rustoleum multi color paint use very light coats and build them up only after the previous coat has flashed.

An airbrush yields a much better result and allows greater flexibility, but as you can see rattle can will give an acceptable result if you do the needed prep work and follow the instructions on the can.

So,...What do you think?

Title: Re: repainting with textured Rust-oleum
Post by Oldnewguy on 01/23/10 at 11:50:25

Absolutly awesome!! :) :) I am so jealous of your talent and patience. :o :o

Title: Re: textured Rust-oleum: the Tank!
Post by kimchris1 on 01/23/10 at 12:23:21

Do you plan to do other's tanks? Your tank is absolutely fabulous. You definetly have talent and patience. Great job.. :)

Title: Re: textured Rust-oleum: the Tank!
Post by wolfmrp on 01/23/10 at 12:29:46

Looks great!

Title: Re: textured Rust-oleum: the Tank!
Post by Yonuh Adisi on 01/23/10 at 16:23:34

Looks very nice, can't wait to see it all put back together.

Title: Re: textured Rust-oleum: the Tank!
Post by savagedml on 01/23/10 at 20:28:25

That looks fantastic!

Title: Re: textured Rust-oleum: the Tank!
Post by J Mac on 01/23/10 at 20:40:14

That is a GREAT idea. I love that silver dollar. Very tasteful and artful. I just might give my 1996 Jetta this treatment. I was considering flat black, but this is better.

Title: Re: textured Rust-oleum: the Tank!
Post by babyhog on 01/23/10 at 21:12:24

Looks great, especially from spray cans! Just amazing. I agree with Oldnewguy - you have some real talent and patience! Looks nice and glossy. I assume you did both sides of the tank identical? Can't wait to see the entire bike!

If I may ask, why the flower?

Title: Re: textured Rust-oleum: the Tank!
Post by PerrydaSavage on 01/24/10 at 04:08:11

Super, super job man! Can't wait to see 'er all bacl together! 8-)

Title: Re: textured Rust-oleum: the Tank!
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 01/24/10 at 06:43:57

but as you can see rattle can will give an acceptable result if you do the needed prep work and follow the instructions on the can.

Do the needed prep work.

Prep is essential. Like the foundation on a house, done poorly, the final product will suffer.

follow the instructions on the can.

OHHHH, how Ive tried. No way do I expect to ever see such a result from my best attempts with paint. The best equipment & paint in a paint booth with a coach & I dont think I could do that.
Tho, to be fair, I will say my paint work has gotten less horrid in recent years.

Title: Re: textured Rust-oleum: the Tank!
Post by Rocco on 01/24/10 at 07:56:20

that looks awesome!! waaaay too nice to go on my bike!!

Title: Re: textured Rust-oleum: the Tank!
Post by JohnBoy on 01/24/10 at 10:13:14

49747878741B0 wrote:

that looks awesome!! waaaay too nice to go on my bike!!

I got three different textures of paint, (four if you count gloss "and" flat), and total outlay is under $50.00. So, at this rate you can repaint every season if you choose.
It is not hard to do. It just requires a little planning and elbow grease. Like so many projects it is a bunch of small simple steps building on each other. As long as you understand the order and some very basic principals you won't go wrong.

Oh, And by the way, I have yet to repaint the rear fender. I am toying with bobbing it, and don't want to paint it twice.

Title: Re: textured Rust-oleum: the Tank!
Post by rigidchop on 01/24/10 at 10:44:12

why the bleeding flower? just askin

Title: Re: textured Rust-oleum: the Tank!
Post by JohnBoy on 01/24/10 at 14:12:47

4C5759575A5D56514E3E0 wrote:

why the bleeding flower? just askin

The Calla Lilly is seen at many funerals. It's a morbid joke. To date I have wrecked one car, one boat, and three motorcycles; and that just counts the collisions. If you count the mechanical failures, blow outs, and just being stupid at speed, the number is about twelve. So “Roadkill” fits. I was originally going to add a cartoon Buzzard sitting on the last two L’s but that would mean that I couldn’t do it “all” with a rattle can. Another reason for the simple white Calla Lilly. The wife says "one more collision and your an Ace!"
JB

Title: Re: textured Rust-oleum: the Tank!
Post by LostArtist on 01/26/10 at 10:02:43

looks amazing, I love the silver dollar on the front fender, but I think it clashes with the theme of the tank which I also love, but I can see it would be a hard choice since both look so great!!! maybe a simple red pinstripe on the fenders might pull it all together, but I don't know how it all looks together so my crit is just BS

again, great job!! gives me hope!! man I need to pay my bike off ASAP!!!